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The Clinton Army: [Rebuttal to] Left Claims Clinton Helped Military
NewsMax ^ | 11 April 2003 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 04/11/2003 3:22:22 PM PDT by Stultis

Left Claims Clinton Helped Military

There are times that spin masters on the left get their facts so twisted that they end up looking like fools. It has been suggested by several spinners in Democrat Party ranks that it is "Bill Clinton's military" that is currently winning the war in Iraq.

The facts show that Bill Clinton halted military development, wasted critical weapons and allowed our forces to become dangerously weak.

No major weapon system was ever introduced during the Clinton years. In fact, many weapons systems were delayed or denied adequate funding.

No Patriot Here

For example, the Patriot missile was not improved during the Clinton years. The repeated pleas of U.S. military leaders that we needed some means to protect ourselves from the ballistic missile threat fell on deaf ears inside the Clinton White House.

Proposed upgrades to the Patriot were not tested, delayed or canceled by the Clinton administration in its feverish attempt to salvage the obsolete ABM treaty with the former Soviet Union. American national security came second to the wishes of Moscow.

The facts show that the Clinton administration traded and sold advanced U.S. military missile technology to China while denying funding to U.S. anti-missile systems that can counter the ballistic missile threat.

George Bush canceled the ABM treaty and immediately funded the Patriot PAC III program. However, events in the Middle East outpaced the frantic effort to ready the Patriot for war.

The war in Iraq forced the Bush administration to put Patriot PAC III into service without a formal testing regime. The PAC III has performed its job, protecting Kuwait and our troops from over a dozen Iraqi ballistic missiles.

Yet two Coalition aircraft have also been downed by the untested Patriot, an RAF Tornado and a U.S. Navy F-18 Hornet. Clearly, if the Clinton administration had allowed Patriot to be tested, the friendly fire incidents could have been avoided.

Clinton Missed the Target

The Clinton administration frequently misused, micromanaged and wasted advanced military weapon systems. Critics of the Clinton administration often cite the failed Tomahawk cruise missile strikes at a Sudanese aspirin factory and poorly targeted missile strikes at empty caves in Afghanistan.

USAF officials confirmed that the President Clinton had a history of bungling missile strikes, in particular targeting the Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) by micromanagement from the Oval Office.

One specific example cited was the unsuccessful 1996 Desert Strike operation where USAF ALCMs with fragmentary warheads were incorrectly targeted on hardened Iraq bunkers on White House orders.

The White House bypassed the USAF Air Combat Command (ACC) and directly ordered B-52s to fire the ALCMs at a hardened Iraqi air defense command bunker. The frag warheads exploded harmlessly outside the Iraq bunker, causing no damage.

The Iraq bunker was destroyed later by a second, follow-on, strike of Navy Tomahawk missiles with conventional blast explosive warheads.

Bomb-Happy Clinton

President Clinton was frequently criticized in Congress and the Pentagon for being "bomb happy. " Clinton's policy of bombing with high-tech weapons rapidly used up critical U.S. military inventories. The shortages, according to DOD officials, were a direct result of Clinton's Defense budget shortfalls for the hard-pressed U.S. military.

According to Defense planners, the most critical shortfall was in Air Launched Cruise Missiles. In late 1998, Boeing was contracted by the USAF to convert the final remaining 130 nuclear-tipped AGM-86B missiles into conventional "Bunker Buster" ALCMs with 2,000-pound warheads.

The U.S. used about 330 Tomahawk cruise missiles and 90 ALCMs during Desert Fox strikes – now known as the "Monica Storm" campaign. All the USAF-launched ALCMs were Block 1 types equipped with heavy conventional warheads for bunker busting. In addition, 230 laser-guided bombs were used and about 250 dumb "iron" Mk. 82 bombs.

According to recon results of Desert Fox, the cruise missile and laser bomb attacks left most of Iraqi air defenses intact.

Era of Delay and Decay

The Clinton administration proposed that the B-1 bomber be retired early. The very same B-1 that recently dropped four 2,000-pound bombs on a bunker where Saddam may have been having dinner.

The Clinton administration delayed the Global Hawk, the Predator, the GPS-guided bomb systems and the Long Bow Apache, and wanted to trim the number of aircraft carriers down to eight.

Many of the weapons that the U.S. should be fielding now are still in development because of Clinton delays and under-funding.

The Clinton administration delayed the V-22 Osprey, F-22 Raptor, the Joint Strike Fighter and the Comanche attack helicopter. In addition, the U.S. military is still trying to make up critical shortages in the Milstar space communications program.

The Air Force, Navy and Marines are also scrambling to make up critical shortages in air-refueling tankers, frequently cut out of the Clinton budget requests.

During the Clinton years, the U.S. military had to cut valuable training, live-fire exercises and flight hours in order to meet demanding deployment funding spent in Haiti and Kosovo.

In fact, the U.S. Air Force had to turn to the United Arab Emirates in order to upgrade the F-16 Fighting Falcon. The UAE agreed to purchase advanced versions of the F-16 that the USAF could not afford. The UAE export funded further development of the F-16, which eventually made its way into the U.S. Air Force inventory.

Bill Clinton never helped the U.S. military and often hurt American national security. It is an outright lie to claim that Bill Clinton has any responsibility for the current success in the desert of Iraq.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; clintonlegacy; military; warlist
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To: cardinal4
...Post #10 =

...Perfect CLINTON U.S. History..
21 posted on 04/11/2003 4:21:51 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com ..,)
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To: Stultis
Your damn right its Clintons military. If it were not we would have more ships, planes and men to fight it. Clintons much bragged about reductions in the "size of government" were almost entirely if not ENTIRELY at the expense of THE MILITARY. You could look it up! He bragged about it, remember>
22 posted on 04/11/2003 4:23:12 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
How anyone can say that Clinton deserves the credit for building our great miliatary is out of their mind! I could not beleive my ears when I heard Pelosi's remarks. Mike Savage is right - liberalism is mental illness.
23 posted on 04/11/2003 4:24:57 PM PDT by conservogirl
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
What would you expect from the former Rapist-In-Chief?

Biography Of An American Coward

24 posted on 04/11/2003 4:28:06 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Stultis
I don't buy any of this. It's clear that the military was reduced over the past several years under the post-Cold War "peace dividend" thinking.

However, the real difference between the current CIC and clinton is the manner in which the battle orders were given to the military by the civilian authority. I think GW set out clear objectives, then let the military run the war without the political interference which was the hallmark of the clinton administration.

This war isn't about budgets. It's about presidential leadership, clear objectives, and the understanding that the military is for breaking things and killing people.
25 posted on 04/11/2003 4:36:33 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (Saddam is a dead man)
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To: JoeSchem
And ... Rush still says that the ONLY TRUE CUTS IN SPENDING during the x42 years WAS FOR MILITARY.

The reductions in the budget from 8% to 6% were said to be CUTS by the democrats. It wasn't a cut at all - it was a reduction in the INCREASED EXPENSES. Pathetic!
26 posted on 04/11/2003 4:40:05 PM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: Stultis; *war_list; W.O.T.; Dog Gone; Grampa Dave; blam; Sabertooth; NormsRevenge; Gritty; ...
Clinton and his cronies tried to destroy the Military!

OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST

27 posted on 04/11/2003 4:45:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: Stultis
"Monica Storm"? I always just called his adventures the "Pubic Wars".
28 posted on 04/11/2003 4:46:11 PM PDT by Lee Enfield ( Doing it in your name anyway.)
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To: cardinal4; Stultis; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Fred Mertz; VOA; Joe 6-pack; Sabertooth; ...
Oooop's...

T'is Post #16 =

Perfect CLINTON U.S. History,

not my Post #10 =

My Mistake #1,000.

29 posted on 04/11/2003 4:56:24 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com ..,)
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To: conservogirl
Conservatism =

MADLY in Love with FREEDOM


Liberalism =

MADLY in Love with HATE
30 posted on 04/11/2003 4:59:37 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com ..,)
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To: Stultis
The liberals will be calling it Clinton's army 50 years from now.
31 posted on 04/11/2003 5:23:44 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: Stultis
index bump
32 posted on 04/11/2003 6:53:49 PM PDT by ellery
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To: Stultis
About two weeks ago, I saw Barney (Fag) Frank being interviewed on CNN. He was the one that claimed it was Bill Clinton's army that won the victory.
33 posted on 04/11/2003 6:58:58 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: Stultis
When Lieberals say stuff like this, they are hoping that we have forgotten.

FR Flashback Time.

Can You Name This Country?

709,000 regular (active duty) service personnel
293,000 reserve troops
Eight standing Army divisions
20 Air Force and Navy air wings with 2,000 combat aircraft 232 strategic bombers 13 strategic ballistic missile submarines with 3,114 nuclear warheads on 232 missiles 500 ICBMs with 1,950 warheads.
Four aircraft carriers and 121 surface combat ships and submarines, plus all the support bases, shipyards and logistical assets needed to sustain such a naval force.

Is this country Russia?. . . No.
Red China ? . . . No.
Great Britain ? . . Wrong Again.
France?....Nope.
USA? . . . You are still wrong.
Give up??
Well, don't feel too bad if you are unable to identify this global superpower, because this country no longer exists. It has vanished. These are the American military forces that HAVE DISAPPEARED since the 1992 election of Bill Clinton and Al Gore....Sleep well America.

Most of you prolly recognize the above, it was posted here frequently from Dec.1999-Nov.2000, as well as being circulated via email and reported on Rush.
34 posted on 04/11/2003 7:00:08 PM PDT by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber!)
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To: cardinal4
"He was and still is the biggest asshole of president we ever had". Yes, Clinton is all that. A few years back I remember a military person responding to a similar quote I made in a forum - I think it was NewsMax - that Clinton was the most despised President by the American military in the history of the U.S.A.

I also took great pleasure in reading somewhere on the Internet today that Clinton was loudly booed by an audience in Manhattan where he made an appearance at the Beacon Theatre. And he didn't like it. I was born and raised a few blocks away from the Beacon and if I remember correctly, it's on 72nd Street and Broadway. Near the Dakota where many Hollywood libs live. And Clinton was booed here? Seems like the only place he isn't booed these days is in Europe. Well, Europe, you can have him.

35 posted on 04/11/2003 7:00:36 PM PDT by maxwellp (Throw the U.N. in the garbage where it belongs.)
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To: Stultis
BIG TIME, LET US NEVER FORGET, BUMP!
36 posted on 04/11/2003 8:09:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Stultis
Great post!
As much as I hate to see people having to spend precious time responding to scumbag liberal simpletons like Matt Miller, it is always good to take the opportunities they hand you to pound home the facts, and pound home the truth. These are the things that fuel the liberal scumbags' worst nightmares.
Again, congratulations on a great post.
Bookmarked.
37 posted on 04/11/2003 8:18:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Stultis

Clinton did far more to assist other third world military forces than our own,...and at our expense.

38 posted on 04/11/2003 8:23:14 PM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Stultis
There are times that spin masters on the left get their facts so twisted that they end up looking like fools. It has been suggested by several spinners in Democrat Party ranks that it is "Bill Clinton's military" that is currently winning the war in Iraq.

I doubt that it's even necessary to rebut this. The usual 23% will believe it, and everyone else will laugh out loud if any Democrat says it.


39 posted on 04/11/2003 8:25:30 PM PDT by Nick Danger (More rallys planned! www.freerepublic.net)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
There's only one reason why Hillary would be placed on this committee. And that is that she is an Illuminati witch and mind control slave handler. Reference source: The Illuminati Formula used to create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave, Appendix 1, Programmers, by Wheeler and Springmeier.

It is my understanding that her role is to destroy our military from within.

40 posted on 04/11/2003 8:36:00 PM PDT by goldilucky
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