[Richard Roma]

thats cuz they aint important

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[LiteKeeper]

education bump

[Luna]

Grammar? Isn't that the nice old lady relative who gives you hugs and pinches your cheek every Christmas?

[PeterPrinciple]

We used to have an older gentleman (85) that could still diagram sentences at that age.......I think he had a much better quality education than I had.

[Hodar]

Yes, but ebonics scores are at an all time high.

- or -

Yo buss dis. yeah, but ebonics scores be at an all time high. Sheeit!

[Gefreiter]

I once was a TA for an intro history class at a big public university. Students were required to submit weekly essays on that week's readings.

One wrote so poorly I assumed he was a poorly-trained ESL (English as a second language) student, and was shocked to learn that he was a native English speaker, from NYC somewhere. He simply had never really been taught to write effectively.

So we had to teach basic writing as well as the relevant history, which was a shame and should not have been necessary. This article does not surprise me in the least.

[k2blader]

Incorrect usage of there/their/they're and your/you're is one of my pet peeves.

Inexcusable in anyone over the age of 17.

[LibertarianLiz]

Just a little Mom pride: My eldest daughter got a perfect score on her ACT in the grammar section. She is the product of a Catholic elementary and high school.

[twigs]

This is not surprising at all. Last year I took a course on teaching English, required to get my certification to teach. Our textbook absolutely excoriated any idea of teaching grammar or giving exercises "out of context" that might teach them. I was surprised by the vehemence of the anger. My teacher supplemented the text with addition articles. Fortunately, our curriculum requires taking grammar to get certified (not all do). I'm a big believer in teaching grammar and writing from grade school on up.

[aruanan]

Grammar and usage skills scarce in high school English classes

And not just among high school students. Hey, man, grammar is just a way for the elite to oppress the masses! Incidentally, or perhaps not, English teachers are some of the most strident Marxists around.

[HIDEK6]

20 years ago I got a promotion that required that I leave the sales territory I had developed. My boss hired an ex-teacher to take my old job. I had to train him.

After we got back from our first trip, I told him to write the call report.

Not only could this guy not write a complete sentence, his report was literally full of misspellings.

This was 20 years ago. Teachers have gotten worse since then.

The most illiterate people I know are teachers.

[verity]

Future human shields.

[kevao]

Can we still say "series" on FR? Because I think this problem is series, vey series.

[N. Theknow]

Well, when your not using proper grammar you're sentence structure can be construed by others who feel their more knowledgeable in there field, so they're.

Just a lose observation on the current state of loosers in high school.

Now some won can say how this is a vey series, hugh problem while showering with moose and eating cheese.

[Constitution Day]

Buncha grammer facists!

[dfwgator]

This is a vey series problem.

[Fifth Business]

How is spelled spelt?

[BSunday]

All you're teachers raises are belong to us!

[ladylib]

Advanced sophomore English class at one American high school (a load of crap, a waste of time, as well as dangerous):

In-class encounter sessions
Another reason why Johny and Janie can't read

Group encounter sessions and intimate inquiry by adults seem to be commonplace throughout Aptos High School. Following are two questionnaires Advanced English students must complete as part of their course curriculum.


Do you know yourself? Have you ever?

Advanced sophomore English students are required to complete this questionnaire, then made to publicly discuss their responses with the English teacher and other students.
Students are required to respond to each of these questions in a journal that is read and graded by their teacher. They are also made to discuss some of the responses in class.


As part of the "Do you know yourself?" exercise, one student was asked to stand before the class and answer the question: "Tell us the most embarrassing thing or the biggest secret you have that will make us never look at you the same again." When the student replied "No comment", as she had on all her written responses to the questions, the teacher reminded her that she was being graded on her participation. The student held firm.

In another English class, students were asked to write their biggest problem or biggest secret on the board so other students could discuss it and offer their experiences or solutions.