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War may lead to free Palestine
Taipei Times ^ | April 10, 2003 | Timothy Garton Ash

Posted on 04/10/2003 6:38:46 AM PDT by tallhappy

War may lead to free Palestine

By Timothy Garton Ash

Thursday, Apr 10, 2003,Page 9

"Free Palestine" said the placards held up by some marchers on the anti-war demonstrations. Well, here's a surprise for them: this bloody mess of a war may result in a free Palestine.

Let me explain, through this extract from the 2020 edition of the Oxford History of the Contemporary World: "Curiously, the Iraq war can now be seen as the turning-point in progress towards an independent Palestinian state. Of course American forces, with their overwhelming technological superiority, succeeded militarily in defeating Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, but, as one American general ruefully observed, the enemy was `a bit different from the one we wargamed against.' The military campaign therefore resulted in civilian casualties and damage to Islamic holy places that inflamed resentment across the whole Arab world. One young Egyptian sarcastically remarked to a western television interviewer: `thank you very much British and Americans, because you're waking us up,'

"British troops were soon comparing their street-by-street struggle against paramilitary groups to Northern Ireland. This proved prescient. For the subsequent occupation of Iraq was like Northern Ireland, only worse. A large majority of Iraqis were delighted to be rid of Saddam; this did not mean they welcomed a colonial administration imposed by Washington, headed by a retired American general and including a minister of finance who was a former head of the CIA. British forces prided themselves on being more subtle than the Americans in winning the `hearts and minds' of a restless population, but they underestimated the depth of historic resentment directed specifically against Britain, the former colonial power in both Iraq and Palestine."

"A relatively small number of Iraqi paramilitaries and suicide bombers compelled the Anglo-American occupying forces to use tactics that, seen throughout the Arab world on Al Jazeera television, reminded Arabs everywhere of Israeli soldiers' behavior in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Nor did it help that the American viceroy of Iraq, General Jay Garner, conceded far-reaching autonomy to the Kurds in northern Iraq, who had been valuable American allies on the northern front of the military campaign against Saddam, and who were the only group in Iraq to remain unambiguously pro-American under the occupation."

"Critics of the war had predicted that, in the somber words of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, it would produce a hundred new Osama bin Ladens. These predictions did not entirely come true. But in the aftermath of the war, there were renewed Islamist terror attacks, especially in Europe, whose large muslim population provided excellent cover for Al Qaeda and other groups. The November 2003 bombing of a shopping center in central London, which killed 37 people, was a notably horrific incident. There was also growing discontent among Muslim Americans."

"As the human, political and financial costs of occupying Iraq mounted, while the American economy plunged further into recession, criticism of the Bush administration grew in the US. Moderate Republicans privately agreed with Democrats that the administration had led the country into a morass in the Middle East, while alienating many of the US' friends around the world. This applied particularly to Europe. Even Britain, America's most stalwart ally, was incensed by the lack of any serious progress along the `road map' to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict."

"After George W. Bush narrowly lost the November 2004 election [ironically enough, following a recount in Florida], the new administration hastened to change course. In an attempt to mend fences with both the Arab world and the Europeans, it withdrew its troops from Iraq, handing control over to the Iraqis and Kurds, and started exerting serious pressure on the Sharon government in Israel to come back to the negotiating table with the Palestinians. President Smith was greatly helped in this endeavor by the death of Yasser Arafat, and the advent of a more reasonable Palestinian leadership. The European Union, which had been pressing for such negotiations, was also useful in exerting economic leverage on the Palestinians."

"As a result, in 2005 a deal was finally made which gave the Palestinians a viable state in boundaries only slightly more generous than those they had been offered by President Clinton in 2000. The Gaza strip was connected to the West Bank, as Clinton had already proposed, by a futuristic raised road and rail highway -- paid for by the Europeans, and jokingly known as the Eurostar. The deal was violently resisted by Hamas fighters, on the Palestinian side, and Israeli settlers on the other. There were several appalling incidents of violence, which finally resulted in most of the settlers in the areas assigned to Palestine fleeing to Israel. A permanent fence was then erected between Israel and Palestine; in parts of Jerusalem it looked like the Berlin Wall. The whole process was bloody, unjust and arbitrary -- but, as in former Yugoslavia, physical separation eventually turned out to be a lesser evil. In time, and with a lot of help from the international community, the two sides started to cooperate, as they both needed to for their own economic survival."

"From his hideaway, Osama bin Laden [or someone claiming to be Osama bin Laden] gloated that `the heroic jihad that began on Sept. 11, 2001 has triumphed with the establishment of an independent state for our brothers in Palestine and the withdrawal of infidel forces from Iraq.' On the face of it, this was a crushing defeat for the whole group of American policymakers, identified particularly with Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, who had seen the invasion of Iraq as the beginning of a democratic reordering of the whole Middle East. No-one was more outspoken in criticizing President Smith than the former Defense Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld. `Neville Chamberlain' was his politest epithet."

"Yet history always has more than one surprise up its sleeve. After an initial period of pan-Arab triumphalism, a new generation of Arab leaders and voters realized that it was now up to them. They could remain in a state of historic backwardness, or they could set out to join the modern world which now beckoned so attractively from just across the Turkish border, in the European Union. Even while Anglo-American occupation had been fiercely resisted, its attempts to win `hearts and minds' -- the broadcasts of Radio Free Middle East, the Fulbright scholarships for young Arabs to study in the West, the imports of Western films, music and magazines -- had made a subcutaneous impact. With the Palestinians now living in a viable state, Arab states finally came to accept the permanent presence of the state of Israel. Within a decade, it was the Arabs themselves who were beginning to reorder the Middle East as a patchwork of consumer democracies. In the end, Wolfowitz's vision was realized, but by a route that he neither envisaged nor desired."

It's a measure of the mess we're in that this might now pass for an optimistic history of the future. Of course we never know what will really happen, until it does, but two things are clear. First, one of history's very few universal laws is the law of unintended consequences. By starting this war, US President George W. Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair have thrown large parts of the jigsaw puzzle of world politics into the air. They have as little idea as we do where the pieces will fall. Second, if Europe has any sense at all (which recent events also lead one to doubt) it will start now to develop its own ideas for a democratic reconstruction of the Middle East -- in readiness for 2005.

Timothy Garton Ash is a fellow of St Antony's College, Oxford, and the Hoover Institution, Stanford.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ash; iraq; leftistfantasy; palestine; pathetic; unintendedhumor; war
This article is ludicrous.

I post it as an example. I couldn't believe what I was reading.

1 posted on 04/10/2003 6:38:47 AM PDT by tallhappy
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2 posted on 04/10/2003 6:40:04 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: tallhappy
Nice fantasy.
3 posted on 04/10/2003 6:42:41 AM PDT by sauropod (I'm a man... But I can change... If I have to.... I guess...................)
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To: tallhappy
Huh?

So the Palestinians, who have supported Saddam's destruction of his own people every time, just on the off-chance that he might lob a SCUD or two at Israel (to promptly be shot down by Patriot and Arrow missiles), are WINNERS in this thing?

What does this guy smoke in the morning?
4 posted on 04/10/2003 6:45:05 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: sauropod
The middle eastern countries don't have to like us, they just have to respect us. We earned their respect over the last 18 days. I bet the cheering crowd that celebrated 9/11 regret waking the sleeping giant. Two countries down and now will now enjoy a measure of freedom (what they fear), I wonder who will to step up to the plate next?
5 posted on 04/10/2003 6:48:31 AM PDT by BushCountry
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To: BushCountry
i hope they do.
6 posted on 04/10/2003 6:52:27 AM PDT by sauropod (I'm a man... But I can change... If I have to.... I guess...................)
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To: tallhappy
I think he might have the right conclusion for exactly the wrong reasons.

The U.S. victory and determination in the face of widespread opposition sends a very powerful message -- don't screw with the U.S. The effect of that message may be to decrease the support of some Arab governments for terrorism. Simply put, they don't want to be next on our list.

A decrease in support for terrorism may increase the Israeli sense of security. That may make them more willing to compromise because they may actually believe that withdrawal from the West Bank could lead to peace.

Our determination in Iraq will add credibility to whatever threats or pressure Bush brings against either side in the Palestinian conflict. Again, don't mess with Dubya.

Finally, our action in Iraq and the continued presence of U.S. troops in Iraq may create some problems in the Arab world. One way to minimize them is to solve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. Bush may really start to bring pressure to bear to solve that problem because he knows it will aid our efforts in Iraq.

The bottom line is that I really think this war increases the prospect of Arab-Israeli peace. But not for the reasons given by the author.

7 posted on 04/10/2003 6:54:59 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: tallhappy
Historians are uniquely unqualified to predict the future.
8 posted on 04/10/2003 6:56:31 AM PDT by Gefreiter
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To: tallhappy
As long as the "free Palestine" is nowhere near the W. Bank, I'm all for it. Perhaps we can find a place for the misfits in the Iraqi desert somewhere.
9 posted on 04/10/2003 6:56:49 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: tallhappy
I don't know if anyone else around here was as surprised as I was to learn the extent of Saddam's actions regarding the PLO or not, but I sure was astonished. I knew about his payoffs to homicide Pali bombers, but I did not know of his training camps in Iraq for PLO's, or of his heavy contingent of PLO's in the Fayandeen (or however you spell that hateful Iraqi fighting group). Saddam has been a major component of Pali problems...I am SO GLAD this is going to be done away with.
10 posted on 04/10/2003 6:58:51 AM PDT by Republic
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To: tallhappy
A bubblegum socialist writes an essay. Neither head not tail can be made of it. It has one theme, one motif -- never stated, yet there all the same and as clear as the lead shot buried in the argyle wool socks of a thug's trudgeon: "Hatred of Jews. Israel is evil and must be destroyed."
11 posted on 04/10/2003 7:03:00 AM PDT by bvw
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To: XJarhead
One way to minimize them is to solve the Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

There's no solving this conflict. It's clearly written in the PLO Charter that their goal is to destroy Israel, for Godssakes. And it's not just a few terrorists in Hamas and Islamic Jihad that are messing things up for everyone else. The majority of Palestinians - a very young population - have been inculcated with the sentiments and ideology of these nutballs, courtesy of their terrorist-financed "education" system.

12 posted on 04/10/2003 7:04:34 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: tallhappy
War may lead to free Palestine

Let's hope so, because now the only free portion of Palestine is the 1/3 that is Israel.
13 posted on 04/10/2003 7:06:28 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: BushCountry
You sound a lot like I guy I respect (politically & logically) one heck of a lot - Newt Gingrich. This is almost verbatim what he espoused last night on O'Reilly.
14 posted on 04/10/2003 7:06:47 AM PDT by MortMan
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To: Mr. Mojo
Give the Palestinians France. The French won't fight.
15 posted on 04/10/2003 7:17:56 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: XJarhead
History offers that view -- that there is some "solution" to the Israel-Palestinian conflict -- no backing. None. Zero, Zilch. Nada.

Israel is Palestine. Palestine is what the Romans named it when they vanquished the free state of Israel. What is called "Palestine" -- a mock, a propaganda-name -- today has NO reason for existence, no self-purpose, except to be a thorn and even a destroyer of Jews and Israel. It is a welfare state -- totally -- and it's welfare is due to blood money given to it in the hope that it's grammar schools and culture of hatred will kill Jews everywhere and destory Israel. Not only the bloody Arab Oil money, but also the money our jakes and State Department throw at it -- like raw entrails thrown to junkyard dogs from over the fence.

The borders of Israel are ordained by G-d, and only misery to be had when man trucks with them. The Palestinians can find a homeland, but in the ten thousand time greater acreage of Arabia and North Africe. Only hate and murderous impulse gives them vitaly there in Israel, and that is not a thing any good man or woman should support for one millisecond, ever.

Two days ago we conquered the Abu Nidal Group's trainging camp in Iraq. Abu was Yasser Arafat's hireling and bosom buddy -- both of them apt students of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem last century. The Grand Mufti who ordered the slaughter of Jews in Hebron, to cleanse -- by murder, by extermination, Jews from "Palestine". Hebron is now considered -- vile that consideration -- part of "Occupied Terriory in the West Bank" It was taken by a most brutal and vicious campaign of murder against civilians. That was the first baby step iof the Nazi Holocaust -- for the Grand Mufti grabbed Hitler's ear in the thirties and explained that it's not enough to meerly drive the Jews out of his German Reich -- but that it was better to utterly wipe-them out.

Abu Nidal and Yasser Arafat learned well from their master -- the master of all Palestian's today -- Abu went wioth his thugs and took over a cruise ship in the Mediterrean Sea. They took one man -- a frail, old man in a wheelchair -- and threw him into the Med, where he sunk below the water -- murdered. He was American. But they killed him because he was a Jew. So too, they signalled -- we will kill all Jews. We will wait for weak moments, for easy prey and fall on them, until every one is dead. Klinghoffer was American -- a war veteran.

That's the Palestians! They should be rewarded a state?

NO! Give them some tland distant from Israel, where perhaps there muderous impulse will be also distant from them. Never give them Israel, never think of it!

16 posted on 04/10/2003 7:28:19 AM PDT by bvw
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To: XJarhead
The bottom line is that I really think this war increases the prospect of Arab-Israeli peace. But not for the reasons given by the author.

No one knows the future, but I know this is Bush's goal. My guess is that the roadmap includes American troops to guarantee Israeli security. Not because Israel can't defend itself, but because Americans have earned respect. Part of the package will include the dismantling of terrorist groups in Syria, by force if necessary.

The emerging Bush doctrine is that all terrorists everywhere are a threat to the United States, and contries that harbor them will be treated as enemies.

17 posted on 04/10/2003 7:39:28 AM PDT by js1138
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To: BushCountry
"Oderint dum metuant"

English="Let them hate us, as long as they fear us."

18 posted on 04/10/2003 10:08:00 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: tallhappy
Giving the palestinians a nation carved out of Israeli land is a problem that I have with Mr. Bush (I did vote for him.) Jordan is the true Palestine. These palestinians are anti-American, anti-West terrorists. Why does the prez think they should have their own state when it would be better if these islamic terrorists were absorbed by any of the surrounding islamic countries? Any of these countries match the palestinians in a socio-cultural way of life.
19 posted on 04/10/2003 12:48:54 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: XJarhead
Correction. My confusion -- the terr training camp we broke up in Iraq was Abu Abbas's PLF. It was Abu Abbas who was known to be involved with the Achille Lauro hijack and the murder of Klinghoffer. We are reported to have captured Abu Abbas today, the 15th of April in Iraq. Hooray!

Abu Nidal -- with his own organization the Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) or Fatah -- also was also in Iraq at least until last year. The Iraqi's then claim he commited suicide -- it was claimed he had leukemia. Others cliamed the Iraqi's killed him beacuse of intranecine conflicts among the terr groups. A few claim he is still alive. It is a palace of mirrors there now, it was even more so then.

Both Abu's and their organizations are offshoots of the PLO, and have operated in the same places. It's a balance of terror and shifting alliances game among these groups.

20 posted on 04/15/2003 3:52:26 PM PDT by bvw
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