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All But Officially Confirmed: Some Of 11 Bodies Returned With PFC Lynch Were Executed U.S. POWs.
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| Bill O'Riley / Brett Beher / FNC
Posted on 04/03/2003 6:32:43 PM PST by MindBender26
Bill ORiley and Brett Beher (sp) of FNC both all but 100% confirmed that at least some of the 11 bodies that were brought back from Iraqi hospital were U.S. POWs. It appears that at least some were executed. Beher at DOD did not want to go too deep into story, as notifications were not yet complete.
SEAL and Ranger teams found two of the eleven bodies in the morgue of the hospital where PFC Lynch was found. An employee of the hospital led them to a shallow grave were another 9 bodies were found. All were returned by helicopter to U.S. control. It is assumed these bodies are from the 507th Maintenance Company at Ft. Bliss, but there is no confirmation. Due to the conditions of the bodies, advanced forensics work is required to determine the identity and exact cause of death
There is also no confirmation of whether or not these bodies might be some of the U.S. POWs that Iraqi television featured in an interview.
Although DOD will not officially confirm anything, there is talk about making some announcement once notifications are complete. If not U.S. soldiers or Marines, why would notifications be necessary?
If it is proven that these were U.S. soldiers and were executed, there will be lots of issues to be resolved.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: execution; iraqifreedom; jessicalynch; mias; pows; warcrimes
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To: TheLion
Yes, other enemies in other wars, have at the least made some concessions to Geneva convention agreements....but these savages brag of their total disregard for war as it is known now.
They wear the uniform of their stated army, but they disgard it and change into civilian clothes to run.
They hide behind their women and children and store munitions in schools.
They use the Crescent Red Cross vehicles for military purposes.
They wave white flags, and then ambush.
These are not honorable soldiers and we should not honor them. Kill them and do not let them just melt away to fight another day.
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posted on
04/03/2003 8:03:45 PM PST
by
Conservababe
(I calls it like I sees it.)
To: MindBender26
I don't believe that the violation of the rules by the other side means that we are free to commit atrocities.
That is what you were saying, no matter how you are now trying to dress it up.
62
posted on
04/03/2003 8:10:29 PM PST
by
Illbay
(Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
To: HarryKnutszacke
Kevlar helmets and flak jackets. There were gunshot wounds in areas (forehead and torso) that would have been protected by those things in combat. I would have to watch it again, but assuming you are right, it could be accounted for by these people not wearing protective gear that they should have had on. Helmets can fall off. Many things could account for it. I am not saying it didn't happen, I would just like to hear it from an official source.
63
posted on
04/03/2003 8:19:23 PM PST
by
killjoy
To: Conservababe
"These are not honorable soldiers and we should not honor them. Kill them and do not let them just melt away to fight another day."
Well said! We need to set up a huge prison camp over there and put all the soldiers in and slowly find out who did what and take care of them. The PC crown would go bonkers if we acted like they do.
64
posted on
04/03/2003 8:20:10 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: DaGman
The first casualty of war is truth.I've used that line myself. Sadly, though, Saddamite military practices were well known before this war began, from the history of the Gulf War, and what we know is harrowing. We must pray that they will realize how close they are to defeat, and how the days before which there will be a reckoning are numbered, and probably numbered, for most Saddamites, in single digits.
To: MindBender26
If it is proven that these were U.S. soldiers and were executed, there will be lots of issues to be resolved. Public hangings of those connected with these war crimes sounds like a good beginning.
66
posted on
04/03/2003 8:32:15 PM PST
by
neutrino
(Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
To: Jonez712
I want firing squads and I want them now. There may be some delay. The main witness is presently in a German hospital. Unless all the guilty are already dead her testimony should come shortly before the firing squads. Televise the whole thing!
To: killjoy
No one was willing to admit that head shots can and do happen in combat. Yes they do. Now, of the 40 some known American combat KIA, how many of those do you guess were head shots? Yet at least two of the four paraded in that film were. Just play the odds and you come to the unavoidable conclusion, well, you know what that conclusion is. You are welcome, however, to wait for some "official" confirmation if you wish.
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posted on
04/03/2003 8:47:36 PM PST
by
MileHi
To: El Gato
Also, the firing squad is honorable for a soldier. Being hanged from a gibbet is not.
Hang them in the public squares, and leave their bodies (wrapped in pigskins, of course) to rot.
69
posted on
04/03/2003 8:53:34 PM PST
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamiam Esse Delendam)
To: MindBender26
Princess Bride, good movie!
To: MileHi; killjoy
If they were executed, there will probably be signs of a contact gunshot wound - easily identifiable by the forensics guys.
I remember reading in one report that these were contact wounds to the head - not a common occurrence in combat. And as MileHi says, one might be a coincidence, but fifty percent looks bad.
I wouldn't bother to torture those responsible. They clearly have no morals and no conscience, and hence probably no souls. So causing them to suffer simply damages those who do the torturing. Just destroy them as you would a rabid dog or a rat. I would publicize it, though, 'pour l'encourager les autres'.
71
posted on
04/03/2003 9:49:26 PM PST
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
To: petuniasevan
Leave them tied up in a room. Invite the female relatives of their victims to "visit".Oh girl, I like how you think!
72
posted on
04/03/2003 9:53:26 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Textide
A fellow Princess Bride fan.
(Which did you read first? Book or movie version?)
73
posted on
04/03/2003 9:56:44 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
To: killjoy
It appeared that several were wounded, then field dressed (emergency bandaged, flak jackets removed to get to the wounds.
Then pulled from their capture site around/below the ruck into the building where the most severely wounded were shot (executed) by bullets in the forehead. (Look at the pools and streams of blood under and behind them, but their combat wounds were already wrapped and weren't bleeding.)
Unwounded were likely taken off as POWS, then tortured there at the "hospital. (Multiple broken arms/legs of Jessica are typical of torture and rape, particularly since there were so stab or gunshot wounds. In a fire fight with hand weapons, how are three limbs going to be broken on a person who can fire and fight, and yet that person does not have any puncture wounds?)
74
posted on
04/03/2003 10:03:24 PM PST
by
Robert A Cook PE
(ABBCNNBCBS (continue to) Lie!)
To: TheLion
75
posted on
04/03/2003 10:29:01 PM PST
by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
To: Alberta's Child
It pains me to "defend" Saddam Hussein and/or the Iraqi military, but in a case like this it may be impossible to determine if these executions were carried out by Iraqi military forces or by random "civilians." It's not as if it hadn't happened before. Allied pilots who bailed out of their planes behind enemy lines in World War II used to make every effort to avoid being caught by civilians because their chances of survival were often diminished if the person who caught them was a civilian. Well, judging by the Iraqi government's record, I think it's safe to say that they did it. If not the regular military, then probably the Fayeed Saddam irregular forces. Of course there is no proof of this as of right now, but I would bet dollars to donuts that the Saddam regime pulled off this cowardly act. Remember what happened to POWs back in the first Gulf War? They weren't killed, but all were terribly brutalized, and they were only there for several days. Saddam generally doesn't pay much attention to the Geneva Convention, or international law in general. Sure, it could have been a few crazed Iraqi citizens, but chances are it was Saddam's thugs.
76
posted on
04/03/2003 10:37:08 PM PST
by
Jonez712
(I <3 America)
To: MindBender26
Well, we're all indulging in a lot of bloodthirsty howling here... but it's all wrong...
We need to carefully try and publicly execute every goatraper who has committed atrocities against *anyone* - and the more the "Arab Street" gets "Inflamed", and the more the Frogs croak in protest, and the more the U.N. and the World Court whine about our assumption of their "Authority", the *BETTER*. It should be our *objective* to make them whine and howl so we can defy them all.
However, if we're going to insist on torturing the scum to death instead of killing them quickly and mercifully, well... okay... Have Blowtorch, Will Travel.
77
posted on
04/04/2003 12:48:37 AM PST
by
fire_eye
To: All; ALOHA RONNIE; Quix
All but officially confimred:
Some of the 11 Bodies returned with PAC Lynch were
executed U.S. POW's....
*****
Is this what happens when a REGIME takes power?
In American we don't have Regimes.
---We have elections.
SHAME ON John Kerry for daring to equate
our form of government with the horror of
Saddam Hussein's Hell.
If it's a "regime change" he and the Democrats
want, let them take Hillary Rodham Clinton
and go off to the nearest Arab Nation.
I'm sure someone will have some use for
Hillary...maybe a job as one of the Hussein Imposters, perhaps?
(Come to think of it.... Hillary does have that
MAD Dictator look, doesn't she?)
To: MindBender26
"No: Find them, cut off their legs at the ankle, their hands at the wrist. Cut out their tounges, cut off their noses, gouge out their eyes..... but leave their ears undamaged, so they can hear the screams of terror from the children as they come into view."
My name is Inigo Montoya...you killed my father, prepare to die!
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posted on
04/04/2003 1:54:09 AM PST
by
Sir_Ed
To: duk
You did that to combatants, (guys who were armed) or EVERYBODY in the room??
Ed
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posted on
04/04/2003 2:00:05 AM PST
by
Sir_Ed
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