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We have a pretty good idea what kind of effect this news will have. Fence sitters will jump off the fence pretty fast and coalition troops will be out for blood.

Here's another story reported yesterday.

MARINES OUT TO AVENGE BLOOD OF 'EXECUTED' GIS

1 posted on 03/25/2003 9:24:16 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/03/26/international/worldspecial/26CAPI.html
2 posted on 03/25/2003 9:25:55 PM PST by A. Morgan
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All people that were paying any attention already ARE outraged. Idiots who stand in the way of the US after this should be shown no mercy.
3 posted on 03/25/2003 9:27:06 PM PST by EaglesUpForever (Ne messez pas avec le US)
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Did anybody have any doubts that this was the case?
4 posted on 03/25/2003 9:27:38 PM PST by fhayek
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I saw the video, and it jumped out at me, immediately, that the soldiers, at least 3 or 4 of them, had been executed. In fact, some looked like they had just been executed at the facility where their bodies were being held, the blood had flowed freely from their wounds onto the floor. A body that had been dead for any amount of transport time wouldnt bleed like that.
6 posted on 03/25/2003 9:28:35 PM PST by Paradox
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Makes you want to eat Republican Guard flesh raw....I mean that.
7 posted on 03/25/2003 9:29:55 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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This the Bush hating NYT reporting this story. If this IS true, from now on, WE TAKE NO PRISONERS! NO war crimes trials!
8 posted on 03/25/2003 9:31:17 PM PST by teletech (Can we bomb Saddam, NOW!?)
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How should this be interpreted? Is the Times commanding its liberal followers to stifle their criticism and allow the US to take off the gloves?
9 posted on 03/25/2003 9:32:36 PM PST by CrimeOf73
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It will be VERRRRRY interesting to see "where" the NYSlimes reports this; I doubt this will be on the front page, above the fold where it should be. Those communists will probably bury the story next to the classified ads.
10 posted on 03/25/2003 9:32:47 PM PST by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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I have a feeling these words are taking on meaning for a new generation:

Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage
Where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning
Of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
11 posted on 03/25/2003 9:32:57 PM PST by Paraclete
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Time to pound their skulls into dust.
12 posted on 03/25/2003 9:33:18 PM PST by Knuckle Sandwich Combo
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I knew it was going to happen but i hope the parents have been notified before NYT puts it out
15 posted on 03/25/2003 9:34:52 PM PST by RummyChick
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It's already posted on FR somewhere.
16 posted on 03/25/2003 9:34:58 PM PST by blam
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No quarter for the Saddamites!
17 posted on 03/25/2003 9:37:36 PM PST by AF68
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Find the Ba'athist beasts and exerminate them.
18 posted on 03/25/2003 9:38:03 PM PST by tomahawk
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My uncle was captured in Italy in WWII and told he me years ago that the Gestapo conducted a short arm inspection of the POWs and executed the ones that were circumcised, presumably Jews. My Swedish-Irish (100 percent American) uncle survived.

With regard to the POWs on the Al Jizeera tape on has to ask, "why were only some of the prisoners executed?" The pants were obviously pulled down. It is known that the Iraqi TV has told the Iraqi people that the are being invaded by Americans and Israelis.

If the Red Cross can get to the surviving POWs they must follow this line of investigation. Why is it that the American public can't be shown violence and sex without Hollywood getting the proceeds?

Yes, Muslims are also circumcised, but that doesn't negate the idea that they could pull down pants to find Jews. And they may be unaware how widespread circumscision is among Americans.
21 posted on 03/25/2003 9:39:17 PM PST by Poincare ((not a good time for a Frenchish screen name))
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NO QUARTER.
We know how to play that game too.
When there are no more Iraqis, there will be no Iraqi problem.
Ever.

Play the Deguello

So9

23 posted on 03/25/2003 9:42:24 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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NO QUARTER
We know how to play that game too.
And we can play it better.
When there are no more Iraqis, there will be no Iraqi problem.
Ever.

Play the Deguello

So9

26 posted on 03/25/2003 9:46:12 PM PST by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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WASHINGTON, March 25 — Some of the Army mechanics captured on Sunday after they took a wrong turn in the Iraqi town of Nasiriya were apparently executed by their captors, probably in front of townspeople, American officials charged tonight.

The officials cautioned that the information was based on one source, apparently a communications intercept, and that they were seeking corroborating evidence. It is unclear how many of the seven soldiers were executed, rather than killed in fighting, as the Iraqis contend. Five other Americans were taken prisoner and at least three were still missing.

The accusations came a few days after a videotape of the prisoners and the dead soldiers was broadcast on Al Jazeera, the Arab satellite television network. It showed images of at least four bodies; some appeared to have bullet wounds to the head.

"When the full story comes out, people will be outraged," said one senior military official.

The accusations came at the end of a day in which senior White House and Pentagon officials accused the Iraqis of a number of war crimes, including feigning surrender and then shooting at American forces, and using a hospital as a staging area for military operations.

The White House also said that Iraqi paramilitary forces were preventing relief supplies from reaching Basra in southern Iraq.

At the Pentagon today, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Richard B. Myers, repeatedly defended their war plan against criticism that it had stretched ground forces too thin, leaving their rear areas vulnerable to guerrilla attacks by paramilitary forces.

"It's a good plan, and it is a plan that in four and a half or five days has moved ground forces to within a short distance of Baghdad," said Mr. Rumsfeld, after repeated exchanges with reporters. "And forces increase in the country every minute and every hour of every day," he said.

General Myers called the war plan "brilliant," saying any setbacks were due to Iraqi violations of the Geneva Convention. "It's a plan that's on track," he said. "It's a plan everybody had input to. It's a plan everybody agrees to."

A senior administration official who was deeply involved in war planning said in an interview today that President Saddam Hussein's loyalists "fight like terrorists," and attributed the absence of a welcome for American troops to "a reign of terror in some of these cities, with these paramilitary and special security organizations enforcing the same brutal terror they have been enforcing for years."

"We haven't encountered large segments of the Iraqi population yet," the official cautioned.

The official said that Mr. Bush had decided to assume the Iraqi government "is still functioning." But the official compared the first six days of this war to the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, saying, "the surprise is the speed of our advance."

Despite the optimism at the Pentagon and the White House, today was the first day the administration found itself somewhat on the defensive about its strategy.

The cause appeared to be the combination of unexpectedly fierce resistance around Basra, the lost convoy, and the effectiveness of the Republican Guard in warding off Apache attack helicopters with a curtain of small-arms fire.

Mr. Bush tried to show optimism this morning, when he traveled to the Pentagon for a briefing, but he cautioned: "We're fighting an enemy that knows no rules of law, that will wear civilian uniforms, that is willing to kill in order to continue the reign of fear of Saddam Hussein."

Later, his spokesman, Ari Fleischer, said that the delay in getting aid to southern Iraq was the fault of the Iraqi authorities. "We didn't expect the Iraqis to cease caring about their own people, to cease feeding their own people, to put up impediments to this humanitarian relief supplies," he said.

The White House also used Mr. Bush's visit to press Congress to pass a $74.7 billion appropriation to finance the war and reconstruction. The Office of Management and Budget made it clear that it was profitable for nations to be members of Mr. Bush's "coalition of the willing," even if some were only reluctantly willing.

Turkey, which denied American access to its bases to open a northern front against Iraq, would receive $1 billion in economic aid under Mr. Bush's plan, allowing it to get up to $8.5 billion loans or loan guarantees.

Israel would also get $1 billion in direct military assistance and $9 billion in loan guarantees. Jordan would receive $700 million in economic aid, and Egypt $300 million in grants, allowing it to obtain up to $2 billion in loan guarantees.

President Bush's greatest ally in the war, Prime Minister Tony Blair, prepared to come to Washington on Wednesday for a summit meeting that the British leader said would focus not only on war strategy, but on "how we get America and Europe working again together as partners and not as rivals."

The disputes that marked the battle over a second resolution at the United Nations authorizing war — an effort the United States, Britain and Spain abandoned — have now given way to a new dispute over how to administer Iraq after the war.

The president's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, flew to New York yesterday to discuss that subject and Iraq's relief needs with Secretary General Kofi Annan.

The visit came as sharp disputes were arising among the members of an expert committee designated to shape a Security Council resolution reconstituting the oil-for-food program that was suspended on March 17 when the United Nations personnel were withdrawn from Iraq.

The dispute has delayed the authorization of new mechanisms for the distribution of relief aid, including about $2.4 billion worth of food and other supplies being sent to Iraq.

The diplomatic struggle, pitting Russia and Syria against the United States and Britain, focuses on control over contracting authority in the program and on whether the resolution would legitimize the military action after the fact.

28 posted on 03/25/2003 9:47:33 PM PST by rattrap
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FReepers and our troops have both been smart enough to know since the first hour the videos came out that our POWs had been tortured, mutilated and executed.

Anyone with a brain knew that from watching the tape.

Which, of course, is exactly why the NY Times is just now figuring it out.

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A Message for the Iraqis

"Yeah, I'm bleeding
But I'm still upright
But you'll be dead
By tomorrow night

The worst mistake
You ever made
Was to kill our guys
In such evil ways

Now we're pissed
Gonna kick your ass
And you can't stop us
It'll be a blast"

EV

32 posted on 03/25/2003 9:51:45 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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bump
33 posted on 03/25/2003 9:52:08 PM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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