Ft. Huachuca, AZ Army Colonel says higher number of illegals is taxing resources

Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | 3/25/03 | BY BILL HESS

[JackelopeBreeder]

Yes , it's still a training base. It's now the home of the Army Intelligence Center. The Army closed out the Intel School at Ft Devens nearly ten years ago and moved it out here. Everyone in MI passes through here -- enlisted, warrant officers, and commissioned officers. A lot of Air Force, Navy, and Marines. The airfield was lengthened and strenthened to serve as an emergency landing site for the space shuttle, even. Just the kind of place an illegal alien should be getting that warm, fuzzy, safe feeling.

Illegals like Federal land. They're safe there. The hottest crossing spots here in Cochise County are Fort Huachuca, Coronado National Memorial, and the San Pedro National Riparian Conservation Area. Until now, Fort Huachuca had only six MPs assigned to patrol the less populated areas of the post where the illegals were hiking around. Coronado had five or six rangers. San Pedro is run by The Nature Conservancy for the Feds, but seems to have no real permanent staff other than a couple of people selling tree-hugger trinkets at a house down by the river.

[Michael2001]

What a waste of resources.

[SandRat]

Yep that's one of the stories. Maybe HiJinx knows where to find the other.

[FrogMom]

this post is spread all over the desert and has a relitivly small population...

This Post IS spread all over the place, but is the third largest population center in Arizona. So - relative to what? Los Angeles? San Diego?

[SandRat]

At least your Gov Warner is not going to let the illegals get VA Driver's Licsences. Our Gov, the Janet Reno thinks/look alike is going to let them.

[mylife]

Illegals like Federal land. They're safe there. The hottest crossing spots here in Cochise County are Fort Huachuca, Coronado National Memorial, and the San Pedro National Riparian Conservation Area. Until now, Fort Huachuca had only six MPs assigned to patrol the less populated areas of the post where the illegals were hiking around. Coronado had five or six rangers. San Pedro is run by The Nature Conservancy for the Feds, but seems to have no real permanent staff other than a couple of people selling tree-hugger trinkets at a house down by the river.

Thats the truth they dont move thru populated areas.

Is it true they rounded up Iraqis? on a Douglas Ranch on thankgiving day some years back? 98? 99?

[mylife]

Its just small population per square mi.

It sure aint Phoenix

[JackelopeBreeder]

Easy -- the real problem is money, as in dirty money. The same cartels shipping the drugs have diversified their business interests and now ship humans as well. Quite lucrative in its own right.

The coyotes are now charging just about $1500 per Mexican, maybe $5000 per Latin American, on up to between $30,000 to $50,000 for Asians and Middle Easterners. The 94 illegals caught on the Fort were worth at least $141,000 to somebody. Not bad for a few days work.

Now look at the rest of the math. The Border Patrol admits catching 67,432 here in the last six months. Their experienced agents are of the opinion that they catch maybe one in five. So, that means 337,160 came through and 269,728 made a clean getaway. If all of that first figure were Mexicans with the hometown discounted $1500 fare, that means the cartels pocketed $505,740,000. Extrapolate it out for a full twelve months and it's over a billion green, before you even try to figure in the value of the drugs. That kind of money buys protection from politicians, police, and the military.

And that's just for one little 80 mile stretch of a 2000 mile border.

[mylife]

So its up to us.

[B4Ranch]

When profiling becomes allowed we will have a chance. Ask Israel how it's done, the experts.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Here Bush goes and sticks a red hot poker in a hornet's nest and leaves the windows and doors wide open. Orwellian. No, suicidal.

It's a ticking time bomb...

[Joe Hadenuf]

I had a note in my tagline about contacting your govt reps to complain about the southern invasion and some around here basically saw that as racist.

Yes, it's racist to concerned about this invasion of our country. You see, the real problem is you and me, not the invasion of millions and this titanic lawlessness....LOL.....

[PRND21]

Both the stories you spoke of are bogus. Do some research.

[Brownie74]

Thanks for the ping. We have to do something soon and we can't count on the government for help. It is a pathetic situation.

[SandRat]

If you are referring to the stories from Post 38. Be careful. The one where the Rangerette arrested the local border watch guys out of Tomstone is a valid story as is the one about the army to the south helping out illegals. The first one was reported in the local, Tucson, and Phoenix papers. The Tombstone Group has the stills and audio from the arrest (should I mention that the leader of the group is the Editor and Publisher of the "Tombstone Epitaph?"). This group is also the ones who took the video. Be careful.

[madfly]

The Nature Conservancy for the Feds, but seems to have no real permanent staff other than a couple of people selling tree-hugger trinkets at a house down by the river.

I'd like to see some pictures of the trashed areas of this "Last Great Place" published. These "stewards" of the San Pedro River publish a quarterly gag-azine with slick photos showing the results of their work to preserve these areas. This would be a great expose of their deafening silence on the matter of the environmental damage being done there, and that they spend mega bucks soliciting donations to "continue" their good work!

The Nature Conservancy president, Lori Faeth is the hand picked Environmental Advisor to napolitano and reamains mum on this.

[madfly]

Response to this article from Col. Ben Anderson, who recently testified at Congressional subcommittee hearing in Sells:

It is FAR, FAR more serious than stated and has very serious implications.

It Ft. Huachuca is unable to control its own security as the U.S. Army's Intelligence Center -- it has no business surviving the BRAC process and its mission could be shifted elsewhere. Sierra Vista and Cochise County would be bankrupt overnight.

Serious stuff

Ben

[madfly]

ping

[madfly]

Things are out of control completely when the military complains about the onslaught. Here Bush goes and sticks a red hot poker in a hornet's nest and leaves the windows and doors wide open. Orwellian. No, suicidal.

Why has our gov't/homeland security/FEMA protectors spent more time and money on master plans for "RESPONSE" to a chem-bio attack, than to actual homeland, ie; BORDER, DE-FENCE. And most of these policies were being documented pre-911. Arizona was the first state to sign (jane hull) the Medical Emergency Powers Act allowing quarantines and mandatory vaccinations, etc. Some Arizona state senators have since admitted that they regretfully signed this massive bill without complete reading and full understanding.

[Marie]

Couldn't Napolitano delare a state of emergency and appeal for help?