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To: SandRat
Both the stories you spoke of are bogus. Do some research.
53 posted on 03/25/2003 11:17:57 PM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21
If you are referring to the stories from Post 38. Be careful. The one where the Rangerette arrested the local border watch guys out of Tomstone is a valid story as is the one about the army to the south helping out illegals. The first one was reported in the local, Tucson, and Phoenix papers. The Tombstone Group has the stills and audio from the arrest (should I mention that the leader of the group is the Editor and Publisher of the "Tombstone Epitaph?"). This group is also the ones who took the video. Be careful.
55 posted on 03/26/2003 4:19:34 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: PRND21
What gives you the thought that the stories are bogus? Do you have some sort of proof they are?
61 posted on 03/26/2003 8:59:30 AM PST by B4Ranch (Keep America safe! Thank the troops for our freedom.)
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To: PRND21
Both the stories you spoke of are bogus. Do some research.

Why do you always enter border-related threads and disrupt? You have shown a consistant pattern of disruption in border-related threads.

Both the stories related by sandrat are, in fact, true.

The first story was about Chris Simcox who was "arrested" by a female "hispanic" ranger who specifically mentioned her "hispanic" heritage as her reasons for disagreeing with what she suspected Chris Simcox of doing. I know one of the men, Henry Harvey, that was with Chris Simcox at the time of this incident - I've heard the story directly from him. I've also spoken to Chris Simcox about it and he's related exactly the same thing.

As for Mexican troops escorting illegals up to and across the border, that is also true. One night, ABP was on the border with their equipment and recorded it happening. When U.S. Border Patrol vehicles would come down the road and might have spotted the illegals, you could see the Mexican troops motioning for the large group of illegals to drop down, out of sight.

In addition, here's the words of a friend of mine - a retired Border Patrol agent - named Dave Stoddard:

Mexican troops have been operating on the U.S.-Mexico Border for several decades now. Within the last 10 years, the Mexican military presence on the U.S. border has increased exponentially over the 1980's.

During this time the Mexican Army has frequently entered the United States and fired upon U.S. Officers. Mexican helicopters, protected by ground forces in HumVees, have entered the U.S. and delivered narcotics to points unknown.

Additionally, Mexican troops have been observed guiding Mexican citizens (and probably citizens from other countries) to locations used by illegal aliens to cross into the United States. This has been filmed by U.S. border residents.

I live roughly 5 miles from the U.S.-Mexico border. There is a Mexican Army garrison due South of my home.

These troops lay up during the day and come out at dusk to;

A. Protect potential illegal aliens from border bandits, and;
B. Guide those potential illegal aliens to "safe" crossing points where they may enter the United States illegally, and;
C. Facilitate the crossing of narcotics into the United States by assuring that potential illegal aliens and patrolling U.S. officers don't interfere with those movements of narcotics, and;
D. Move narcotics themselves across the border at the direction of corrupt Mexican officers and politicians, and;
E. Assure that violence does not erupt along the border between competing drug cartels thereby creating "bad press" for Mexico during its push for "regularization" of its illegal aliens in the United States.

We live here. You don't. We've seen this stuff with our own eyes. You haven't. You disrupt when you post baseless nonsense in an effort to distract us from talking about or doing anything about the literal invasion on our southern border. This is a homeland security issue - not racism, not bigotry, not a hobby. I urge you to get your facts straight or STFU! Keep disrupting and we'll start punching the abuse button.
62 posted on 03/26/2003 10:07:01 AM PST by Spiff
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