At Academy Awards, Moore insults President, Constitution, American Political Process

Washington Post ^ | Sunday, March 23, 2003; 11:32 PM | Associated Press

[risk]

We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons whether it's the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush. Shame on you. --Filmmaker Michael Moore, accepting for best documentary feature.

[risk]

Moore's comment was disturbing because it insults our political process. In effect, he's saying that our Constitutional process for change of government is invalid. He's saying that popular vote counting (certainly in question) as well as the Electoral College and the Supreme Court are all three ineffective.

Moore is wrong, and there are few people spewing more effective anti-American propaganda. I was relieved that at least some in the audience booed him loudly.

It's obvious that Moore doesn't understand that the very process he is insulting is his only hope for a future power change.

This nation wasn't built by cautious, pandering men who were afraid of risk. But it could be torn down by them. I'm so relieved we have Mr. Bush in power at this terrible time for our country. Our system of government works, no thanks to Michael Moore's lack of respect for it.

[over3Owithabrain]

My problem with moore is he invariably uses the word "we" to describe his own feelings, as if he speaks for the entire country. Sign of a meglomaniac

[FreedomPoster]

>>I was relieved that at least some in the audience booed him loudly.

And don't forget Steve Martin's comment, after Moore left the stage:

"The Teamsters are helping Michael Moore into the trunk of his limo."

[RichInOC]

"Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son...."

[LiveFreeOrDieTryin]

Tell him about it directly. mike@michaelmoore.com I did. Here's what I said:

I'm ashamed of you. You have no class at all... Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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[risk]

Yeah, I noticed. I wasn't sure what side Martin was taking. I couldn't watch the whole program, but one of the worst acceptance speeches came from Adrien Brody, who obviously didn't learn anything about fighting totalitarianism through his experience making The Pianist.

Maybe yesterday's worst anti-American contribution came from Ralph Nader in the San Jose Mercury News when he called Bush a dictator.

I fear for the future of our country when people all over the nation can't tell freedom from fascism.

[FreedomPoster]

Yes, a comment I've seen somewhere in the last few days applies: "When did it become fashionable to support a dictator?"

Anyone calling Bush a dictator isn't playing with a full deck.

[wretchard]

Remarks by the likes of Michael Moore make us wish that those who choose the wrong side of history would suffer the consequences. But Ezra Pound chose the Nazis, and there was no shortage of literati who went bail for him after the war. History does not punish the wrong, because the literati write history.

In a more fundamental sense, Michael Moore is most punished by being himself. If that seems insubstantial, consider that the only things that an American soldier might bring out of Iraq are his scars and the memory of being a man.

That Oscar was dearly bought.

[GOP_Raider]

I never thought I'd say this but thank God for Teamsters.

[Mrs. P]

I saw a guy on what was probably a PBS program last night, (hurried to turn it off, but don't remember what channel was on) saying that we as Americans should remember the 'good people of Germany' who stood by and did nothing as Hitler and the Nazi party gained power. He said that our President was the same as Hitler and we should 'think about that' and what we were going to do.

He gave the audience a knowing, I know it all look. This was just a guy in the audience.

I'm getting the idea that there are people in this country who are so brainwashed or stupid that they couldn't possibly take care of themselves or raise children. That must be why we need the socialist state they are all advocating.

[risk]

That Oscar was dearly bought.

It's worse than most realize. I heard from a friend in Japan of all places, who read his book Stupid White Men and the observation went along the lines of "Americans are really patriotic, including Moore!" More than anything else, it was annoying to me that a foreigner would be taking Moore's words at face value, that he could be seen to communicate anything at all about patriotism in our country to the rest of the world.

My reaction? He's simply making fun and profit at the expense of tragedy, as well as real patriots, and it's so bad that his sewage is leaking out into the world. I keep saying that we help teach the world to hate ourselves. Moore is a fine example.

[broadsword]

Good point.

"Virtue is its own reward and vice is its own punishment."

BTW what are teamsters

[Claire Voyant]

Ralph Nader is a DANGEROUS Arab......and a DEMOCART!!

[risk]

[Guy on PBS] said that our President was the same as Hitler and we should 'think about that' and what we were going to do.

I saw that, too. I was incensed. But I tell you all, we must be patient with our brothers and continue to help them understand the danger we're all in. More than a year after 9/11 seems like a long time, but there are 50 years of propaganda embedded into their minds, sometimes more than two generations worth.

We must not lose this battle for the American psyche. Insults and threats aren't going to win these arguments -- we have to keep bringing up the facts. I challenge everyone to point out the intellectual dishonesty in Moore's and Nader's comments this week when you meet any of your unpatriotic acquaintances and family.

[justa-hairyape]

What amazes me is that most of these hollywood leftist are in denial of the irrelavence of what they do. They are spending their lives doing nothin real. A movie or TV show is not life. Its an artistic representation or interpreatation of life. It cannot fight for freedom. It cannot remove a dictator from power. It cannot punish law breaking individuals. Its powerless. Yet leftist from Marx on down all thought that the movies, 'make belive', were vastly important tools. The reality is that Marx is dead and marxism is waning. In the current real world, actual living defenders of freedom are currently risking their lives to defeat tyranny and threats to world security. One single soilder willing to fight to the death for freedom is more valuable then any single movie or any single oscar.

Fortunately some of the few enlightened ones in Hollywood do understand this. They booed Michael Moore. As a line from a movie once said "A man has to know his limitations."

[Hawkeye's Girl]

I was relieved that at least some in the audience booed him loudly.

One guy started it by booing a few times, then it got so loud that I couldn't hear the rest of what Moore was saying, not that it was worth listening to.

[wretchard]

"BTW what are teamsters."

A union, so far I can tell.

[hotpotato]

it's so bad that his sewage is leaking out into the world.

And to bad that many people don't recognize it as loaded with falsehoods.

[FreedomPoster]

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[Ophiucus]

What would you expect from Michael Moore-on? He's a talentless hack that spouts the lefty propaganda loudly and obnoxiously - so of course he was rewarded by the Oscar commitee.