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Hot cross banned: councils decree buns could be 'offensive' to non-Christians
UK Telegraph ^ | March 16, 2003 | Chris Hastings and Elizabeth Day

Posted on 03/15/2003 11:11:06 PM PST by FairOpinion

Schools across Britain have been ordered by local authorities to abandon the ancient tradition of serving hot cross buns at Easter so as not to offend children of non-Christian faiths.

Some councils are refusing to hand out the traditional treats because they fear that the symbol of the cross will spark complaints from Jewish, Hindu and Muslim pupils or their families.

Officials in the London borough of Tower Hamlets decided to remove the buns from menus this year after criticism over its decision to serve pancakes on Shrove Tuesday. A spokesman for the Labour-run council claimed that there had been "a lot" of complaints but did not have a figure.

The spokesman added: "We are moving away from a religious theme for Easter and will not be doing hot cross buns. We can't risk a similar outcry over Easter like the kind we had on Pancake Day. We will probably be serving naan breads instead."

In the past, invidivual schools have taken the decision to not serve hot cross buns, but this is the first time local authorities across the country have imposed blanket bans.

Liverpool council, which is controlled by the Liberal Democrats, also told The Telegraph that the symbol of the cross had the "potential to offend" and buns will no longer be served to children.

Despite this ruling, the council confirmed that it will continue to organise special menus to celebrate events as diverse as the Chinese New Year, Italian National Day and Russian Independence Day.

Other councils not serving hot cross buns include York, where Labour is the largest group, and Wolverhampton, which is Labour-run. Officials in Wakefield, which is also controlled by Labour, have decided it would be more appropriate to tailor the Easter menu to information technology.

"We are not serving hot cross buns at all," said a spokesman. "Each term we try to come up with a menu which encourages children to think about different issues. This Easter term we chose information technology and did not even consider putting hot cross buns on the menu."

Ann Widdecombe, the Conservative MP and former shadow home secretary who is a Roman Catholic convert, described the ban as "appalling and absurd". "These people are silly asses," she said.

"It would appear that we should know about everyone else's culture apart from our Christian tradition. It seems that anything that comes from an ethnic minority is fine, while anything Christian is wrong.

"What can be more innocent than a hot cross bun? There's no more fun way to explain the Christian tradition to a child and it is not as if eating a hot cross bun automatically makes you a born-again Christian."

The Muslim Council of Britain called the decision "very, very bizarre". A spokesman said: "This is absolutely amazing. At the moment, British Muslims are very concerned about the upcoming war with Iraq and are hardly going to be taken aback by a hot cross bun.

"Unfortunately actions like this can only create a backlash and it is not very thoughtful. I wish they would leave us alone. We are quite capable of articulating our own concerns and if we find something offensive, we will say so. We do not need to rely on other people to do it for us.

"British Muslims have been quite happily eating and digesting hot cross buns for many years and I don't think they are suddenly going to be offended."

Although the buns and their distinctive symbols have been a feature of English life for nearly 2,000 years, they have not always been associated with Christianity.

The tradition dates back to pagan times when the cross represented the moon and its four quarters. It was claimed for the Christian church in 1361 when Father Thomas Rockcliffe distributed the buns to the poor of St Albans.

It became traditional to eat the buns on Good Friday after Elizabeth I passed a law limiting their consumption to religious festivals. Some local authorities such as Manchester have decided that they can keep hot cross buns on the menu while catering for other faiths.

A spokesman said: "We are in favour of diversity and will be catering for all tastes. We cover a wide geographical sweep and our menus are tailored to the ethnicity of various areas. We could serve naan breads or hot cross buns, depending on the demand."

A spokesman for Lincolnshire county council said: "We will be serving hot cross buns and have never experienced any problems with them."

Birmingham city council had put an outright ban on hot cross buns but relented on the decision following inquiries from the city's Anglican bishop, the Rt Revd John Sentamu. It has now told individual schools that they can request hot cross buns if they wish.

Last year, the Food Standards Authority named hot cross buns as the healthiest option for those who wanted to indulge themselves at Easter. On a weight-for-weight basis, the buns were found to contain the lowest amount of sugar and fat as well as having the highest fibre and lowest calorie content.

A spokesman for the Church of England last night said that there was no reason why any school should should stop serving hot cross buns.

He said: "I see nothing wrong with anything which encourages children to remember that it is Easter time. Easter has its own special symbols and the hot cross bun is one of them. People who do not want to eat the buns do not have to."

He added: "It is difficult to understand how anything which is ancillary to the celebration of Easter can create so much offence."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: britain; christian; easter; muslim; politicalcorrect
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To: FairOpinion
Europe is terrified of its indiginous muslims and will do almost anything to avoid "offending" them. London, Paris, and Brussels have all seen serious Mulim riots, and elsewhere muslim-immigrant crime (gang rapes are popular) is entirely out of control. Basically, Europe's hyper-enlightened social democracies are are being eaten alive by a 6th-century internal parasite, and will do nothing about it. It ain't pretty.

Islamic Immigration - Just say no. (Better, demand your Congressman say no)

21 posted on 03/16/2003 12:39:16 AM PST by dagnabbit
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To: FairOpinion
I'm about to give up on this planet.
22 posted on 03/16/2003 12:42:18 AM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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To: Porterville
I thought that this was an Onion article, but I followed the link, and its for real!
23 posted on 03/16/2003 1:31:47 AM PST by SubMareener
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To: nmh
So, why don't you educate this Christian, and tell me whats wrong with this bread?
24 posted on 03/16/2003 3:46:55 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: FairOpinion
I think it's time Christians start moving into Muslim and Hindu countries and raise HELL that our faith is being ignored. They'll eagerly respond and drop all semblance of their "faiths" when we do, I'm sure..............right??? Won't they???
25 posted on 03/16/2003 3:48:47 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: FairOpinion
IMHO the Brits are as loony as the PC crowd in the US.
26 posted on 03/16/2003 3:56:42 AM PST by chainsaw
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To: FairOpinion
Some councils are refusing to hand out the traditional treats because they fear that the symbol of the cross will spark complaints from Jewish, Hindu and Muslim pupils or their families.

How long until the addition symbol will be deemed as potentially offensive.

27 posted on 03/16/2003 4:00:50 AM PST by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: FairOpinion
Liverpool council, which is controlled by the Liberal Democrats, also told The Telegraph that the symbol of the cross had the "potential to offend" and buns will no longer be served to children.

Here's to the Liverpool council:


28 posted on 03/16/2003 4:00:54 AM PST by Dataman
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To: nmh
Didn't Jesus say that it wasn't what went in your mouth, but what came out that mattered? Of course, if you took the entire Bible to heart you'd be eating kosher, too.
29 posted on 03/16/2003 4:08:51 AM PST by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: nmh
Your superior attitude is very un-Christian (and boring)...
30 posted on 03/16/2003 4:09:23 AM PST by Russ
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To: FairOpinion
The traditional Christian habits of England are being erased by secular post-Christian agitators.

This is akin to forbidding christmas carols from Christmas. Or even the schools in the US that have outlawed the term "Christmas".

31 posted on 03/16/2003 8:33:51 AM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! Lets Roll! now!)
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To: FairOpinion; All
Yes, the politically correct movement is out of control. The most important thing in life to them is not to offend anyone, lol! So much for culture, debate , thinking and discerning.

Anyway, symbols are important. Some symbols have more than one meaning or can mean one thing to someone and another thing to another. That is why a little history comes in handy, so we can examine the roots of where cultural items such as symbols (or celebrations for example) come from.

It is true that it appears to be a cross on the bun, but it also is a pagan symbol.

from web page on symbols:
"CIRCLE (quartered): The sacred circle filled with a cross, four equal lines pointing from the center to the spirits of the north, east, south, and west -- or to the basic element: earth, water, air (or wind), and fire. In Native American traditions, it forms the basic pattern of the MEDICINE WHEEL and plays a vital part in major spiritual rituals. Many contemporary pagans consider it their main symbol for transmitting the energy of the goddess.    Churches have used variations of the same popular shape, usually calling it the Celtic Cross." 

You'd think the wiccans or earth worshippers would be extatic to have this symbol served to children. Go figure.

But we know that in the history of the Christian church, pagan symbols(and holidays) were taken and supposedly 'Christianized'. And now we have pagans taking Christian symbols and using them in thier anti- Christian worship. The cross held upside down, the peace symbol (broken, upside down) and the swastica are examples.

In the end, the cross of Christ, when used as a symbol of true Biblical Christianity, that is, God in the flesh coming to sinful humanity in Jesus Christ to die for our sins and become our salvation and bring us to God, will always be a frustrating stumbling block to those who do not believe.


 
32 posted on 03/16/2003 8:35:23 AM PST by Gal.5:1
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To: FairOpinion
Anbody who can't handle this ought to get their buns out of England!

;-D
33 posted on 03/16/2003 8:47:00 AM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: FairOpinion
Well, the PC Police have taken over the world. Remember the old nursery rhyme:

Hot cross buns!
Hot cross buns!
One a penny, two a penny,
Hot cross buns!

Hot cross buns!
Hot cross buns!
If you have no daughters,
Give them to your sons!

Here is the new, PC version:

Lukewarm non-denominational baked goods
[Can't say "Hot"--might offend some women who aren't
Can't say "cross"--might offend non-Christians
Can't say "Buns"--might offend some women who have unattractive ones]
Lukewarm non-denominational baked goods
One a unit of currency, two a unit of currency
[Can't say "penny"--might offend poor people who don't have one, or natives of countries that use a different currency]
Lukewarm non-denominational baked goods
If you have no offspring, because you chose abortion over life, or are unable to conceive, or are gay
Give them to your offspring, if you have them, or to Greenpeace or the anti-war movement or Planned Parenthood if you don't!

34 posted on 03/16/2003 8:51:02 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Britains's new national anthem:

"Save the Queen"

(The other word has been deleted so as not to offend atheists)
35 posted on 03/16/2003 8:58:19 AM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It
Sorry, but "Queen" ain't gonna work either. Too many gay guys who like to dress in drag might be offended. Or, perhaps, everyone except them might be offended.
36 posted on 03/16/2003 9:02:20 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: FairOpinion
"British Muslims have been quite happily eating and digesting hot cross buns for many years and I don't think they are suddenly going to be offended."

I never thought that I would agree with the Britsh Muslim Counsel on anything, but I agree with this.

Just how whimpy do they think that people are?

37 posted on 03/16/2003 9:08:17 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
Without Easter there is no Christianity.
38 posted on 03/16/2003 9:08:41 AM PST by RWG
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To: FairOpinion
And I thought that the Brits had a thing for buns.
39 posted on 03/16/2003 9:11:16 AM PST by Poincare ((not a good time for a Frenchish screen name))
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Yes, this one looks about to get pissy.


40 posted on 03/16/2003 9:15:23 AM PST by ErnBatavia ((bumperootus!))
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