[ewing]

Check out the two websites linked 3/4 of those girls were just acting and the bachelor is now going to wrestle in something called the 'GWA' (Gay Wresting Association) after the show.

[OXENinFLA]

From "FOX" no way!

[shadowman99]

*GASP* --SHOCK!!--

You mean this show has no integrety!?!?

[Billy_bob_bob]

Do you remember the old Monty Python shows where they would have the crazy guy with the napkin on his head saying "my brain hurts!"

That's pretty much how I feel after thinking about this show for too long. My wife has been watching it, I can't stand five minutes of it.

[amused]

Check out the two websites linked 3/4 of those girls were just acting and the bachelor is now going to wrestle in something called the 'GWA' (Gay Wresting Association) after the show.

Life imitates art?

[Hacksaw]

Check out the two websites linked 3/4 of those girls were just acting and the bachelor is now going to wrestle in something called the 'GWA' (Gay Wresting Association) after the show.

NOOOOOO! My new hero can't be a fraud!

[11th Earl of Mar]

'So how much of this reality show is real and how much is purely scripted.'

Next they will tell us that Penthouse Forum letters are not written by women who read the magazine.

[Blood of Tyrants]

In California you can't swing a dead cat without hitting an "actress" or "model". The IRS revealed one time that only one in 2000 people who list their occupation as "actor/actress" make more than $2000 in any given year in performance of their listed occupation. So that tells you that simply calling yourself a model or actress, doesn't make you one. Besides, I haven't seen a single one of the women in anything.

BTW, my favorite was Allison. The red haired babe who lost out a few weeks back.

[CheneyChick]

Poor Zora the Substitute Teacher.

[Mr. Jeeves]

I guess the producers were hoping to keep this quiet for another week...

[FourtySeven]

From the same article (MSNBC article):

Thirty-five percent of Americans who were polled said that if Anna Nicole Smith called them at home, they’d have the number blocked so she wouldn’t call again, according to SBC, a company that provides those caller-blocking services. Rock spawn Kelly Osbourne came in second, with 21 percent.

hehe.....just an interesting little tidbit there.

[kaylar]

Of course it's staged. Now here's what offends me:

Exploitative talk shows, such as Jerry Springer, are also staged. Not just are some of the guests actors and actresses (and some have been caught appearing on different show, like the guy who claimed to be a sex addict on SJR and a middle aged virgin on MW), but the show's writers-the people who come up with the programming ideas-have admitted that many of the other guests are selected in strip bars. IOW, those guests that aren't actors are strippers, massage parlor workers, "models" , their boyfriends,bar habitues , hangers-on in that lifestyle...In general, inhabitants of the demimonde. Not necessarily criminals, but people who may come a bit closer to the underworld than most.

Why does that offend me?Because tons of sheltered middleclass people, especially those still in college , actually believe that shows like Jerry Springer are an accurate reflection of blue collar life. That people who work as cashiers, lower-level clerical, check out girls, factory worklers, etc, are actually prone to behaving like the freaks on the show-who perform staged, choreographed fights in retaliation for acts that occured offstage solely in the imagination of the show's writers and casting director!

And then there's the people overseas who also believe JS is an accurate depiction of American life...I hate that show, and all its clones and imitators. Thankfully, talk shows appear to have peaked in popularity about 5 years ago.

[mhking]

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

[cyncooper]

the bachelor is now going to wrestle in something called the 'GWA' (Gay Wresting Association) after the show.

Ick alert.

[AntiGuv]

Heck, I modeled for underwear advertisements back in the day when I was in college - on a spur of the moment sort of thing, wanting to make some money. Whatever the case, I'm certainly no model or actor (which requires at least basic acting talent, for anything but B-Movie cannon fodder..)

[weikel]

Ive always believed that these reality shows were entirely scripted.

[The_Victor]

What or who is "Joe Millionair"?

*yawn*

Roll over and go back to sleep, you're not missing anything.

[theFIRMbss]

>75% of Contestants Worked in Adult Entertainment Industry

What percentage of,
say, actors and actresses
that have appeared on,

say, Seinfeld, worked in
"adult entertainment?" In
today's world, I'd guess

that any "snap shot"
of the entertainment world
would grab old porn stars...

[rowdydawg]

Next on Fox Pay Per View. Orge at the Mansion. Joe Millionaire discloses his real name is "Hard Hat Mac" and ....... Stay Tuned.

[Hatteras]

It's a good thing they're out scouring the hills of Appalachia as we speak looking for the "Real" Beverly Hillbillies...

[Gothmog]

I have never watched this show and have no intention to, but I am interested in checking out media hoaxes, so I clicked through your link. That link took me to a one paragraph MSNBC media gossip column that simply raised the question of whether the show was rigged with actresses.

It provided no evidence, except two links, one to John Dvorak at PC Magazine on-line. He mentions that about 3-4 (not quite 3/4's as you posted) of the girls might be rigged phonies, if one was a cynic and started with the assumption that they all were and did enough internet searches. He provided some anecdotal evidence he gathered from the web. Somehow he missed Debka.

I really would not care except that while reading the article I noticed Mr. Dvorak made the following assertions:

"Worse, there is a public trust issue here that is seriously in need of Congressional attention.

"Before I delve more deeply into the public policy issues..."

And then:

"Two years ago, one of the contestants, Stacey Stillman, in the TV show Survivor sued CBS for fraud, saying the show was rigged. The case is still pending, and the poor woman got sued in return. You can read an eye-opening deposition online. I had a long chat with Donald Yates, one of the attorneys for Stillman, and he said that the worst part about all this was that neither the FCC nor any government bodies showed any interest. It was depressing, he said. 'It's not the nineteen fifties anymore, nobody gives a sh-- about any of this.'"

Not exactly objective reporting, going to one source's lawyer claiming the same point in order to once more call for more government intervention. (Just figuring -- there have probably been about 70 "Survivor" contestants, and only one has sued, I guess the rest just must have been sleeping through all the 'rigging')

He concludes with this little diatribe:

"Maybe nobody does care. But the fact that the news organizations have become nothing more than lapdogs for the entertainment industry is beyond pathetic. In fact, if 'Joe Millionaire' is scripted in any way, this is a breach of the public trust that should be investigated by Congress the same way the fake games shows were investigated. This is television, not movies. The media companies and the news organizations should be brought up to testify. The public is already too cynical and doesn't know what to believe. We're becoming Sovietized. We have to read gossip on the Net to have a hint at what might be going on. This is not right. Send this column around, and let's see if we can shake up our drowsy Congress—see if they do 'give a sh--' or not."

I don't give a crap about the show, and maybe it's the cynic in me, but I think Dvorak's main motivation is in finding an issue to get the government involved with regulating the media.

He says: "This is television, not movies. The media companies and the news organizations should be brought up to testify."

He misses the point -- most of TV is entertainment, just like the movies. But, he then blurs the line and calls for Congress to include the "news organizations" to testify. With a tinfoil body suit fully latched on, I will cynically ask whther it might be a coincidence he picked a FOX TV show by 'accident'?