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Couple seek penance from casinos for Penn & Teller stunt
The Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | Saturday, February 08, 2003 | DAVE BERNS

Posted on 02/08/2003 12:39:28 PM PST by Willie Green

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Las Vegans Al and Rita Cummins are not turning the other cheek to that risque crucifixion skit by local magicians Penn & Teller.

"What they did is blaspheme the Lord," Al Cummins said. "I know there a lot of scenes in the casinos that we would not approve of. That's their business, but it became our business when they criticized our Lord."

The Summerlin couple learned of the Jan. 13 routine at a magicians' convention after reading items in Norm Clarke's Review-Journal column.

Penn & Teller have been publicly quiet about the controversy they created with the routine at the close of a private, late-night roast of comedian-magician Amazing Johnathan. They failed to return two phone messages left at their management office this week.

It began when Penn Gillette entered a Riviera convention hall dressed as a Roman centurion and was followed by a cart covered with a large sheet.

After Gillette delivered a few one liners about Johnathan, a sheet was removed from a cart, revealing Teller, who appeared to be on a cross, naked from the waist down. A diminutive man appeared to be simulating oral sex on Teller.

Many in the crowd of 400 could be heard laughing while others later said they were offended by the skit.

After learning of the episode, Al and Rita Cummins, herself an ex-nun, spoke to their priest at Our Lady of Las Vegas Catholic Church. Their priest, who declined to be interviewed for this story, advised them to take action if they were offended.

The couple circulated a petition for parishioners to sign the next Sunday and gathered about 1,200 signatures demanding apologies from the Riviera, Rio, Flamingo and Monte Carlo hotel-casinos lest they launch a boycott. Penn & Teller perform at the Rio; Jonathan at the Flamingo; and the Monte Carlo's Lance Burton also participated in the roast, although he was not a part of the skit.

"One of our basic American rights is freedom of religion," reads the petition. "That enjoins on all of us the obligation to respect one another's faith, regardless of whether or not we agree with it. This was not `performance art,' but an act of hatred against Christianity and against all religion."

"What they did was an absolutely unspeakable thing," Rita Cummins said. "They've offended every single one of us. To blaspheme Jesus Christ like that was beyond bad taste. It was an incredibly offensive thing."

Riviera President Bob Vannucci sent the couple a letter apologizing for the incident.

"I can assure you that we did not condone their behavior," Vannucci wrote. "We are very disgusted with them and can guarantee that nothing like this will ever happen again."

Vannucci failed to return a phone message seeking comment. Executives of the Rio, Monte Carlo and Flamingo have not replied to the couple.

"We're probably going to keep circulating petitions until they all apologize," said Rita Cummins.

"The whole entertainment industry is pushing the envelope. They are going further and further, beyond the bounds of acceptable behavior."

University of Nevada, Las Vegas history professor Hal Rothman has written extensively about the desert city and sees a great deal of irony in the entire episode.

"Despite selling ourselves as anything goes here, anything does not go here," Rothman said. "But Penn Gillette has made a career of pushing the envelope. I would guess that he wanted this response."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: amazingjohnathan; antichristian; atheist; blasphemy; christian; christianity; christians; crucifixtion; jesus; jesuschrist; lanceburton; lasvegas; magic; magicians; offensive; oralsex; outrage; pennandteller; pennjillete; performanceart; religioushatred; sacreligious; teller; wherestheoutrage
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1 posted on 02/08/2003 12:39:28 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
Penn and Teller. Very talented, but low-lifes nonetheless.

I wonder if AL Qaeda ever thought of targeting Las Vegas with a WMD? Fortunately for the good people who live there, the terrorists probably have the good sense not to pi$$ off the mobsters that own it.

2 posted on 02/08/2003 12:45:10 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Willie Green
Doesn't surprise me a bit..P & T are a pair of liberals of the worst kind..
3 posted on 02/08/2003 12:51:00 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Willie Green
"One of our basic American rights is freedom of religion," reads the petition. "That enjoins on all of us the obligation to respect one another's faith, regardless of whether or not we agree with it. This was not `performance art,' but an act of hatred against Christianity and against all religion."

"What they did was an absolutely unspeakable thing," Rita Cummins said. "They've offended every single one of us. To blaspheme Jesus Christ like that was beyond bad taste. It was an incredibly offensive thing."

There is nothing that says you have to respect or condone religion or actions, contrary to the beliefs of liberals. Sorry, but as offensive as this was, there is nothing that says you have the right to NOT be offended. I suggest that these people put their efforts into boycots and the like, rather than trying to take any sort of legal action.

Mark

4 posted on 02/08/2003 1:01:07 PM PST by MarkL
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To: BenLurkin
Penn and Teller. Very talented, but low-lifes nonetheless.

Many talented artists seem to be low-lifes. One thing I will say is that Teller is an amazing magician. There's something he does with flowers and shadows which is astounding, but most of what they do as a team is for shock value.

Mark

5 posted on 02/08/2003 1:03:10 PM PST by MarkL
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To: scripter
ping
6 posted on 02/08/2003 1:04:46 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: MarkL
I suggest that these people put their efforts into boycots and the like, rather than trying to take any sort of legal action.

Seems to me that they are pursuing boycotts.
I didn't see any mention of legal action in the article...
why would you imply that's what they're doing?

7 posted on 02/08/2003 1:07:30 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: goodieD
P and T condider themselves libertarian. I used to enjoy their shows, and had respect for them until I started reading some of Penn's wtitings. He's not just an Athiest, He's an active anti-religionist.

Screw P and T they have proved to me that they are only an example of extreme idiocy, and thoughtlessness. May God have mercy on them by showing them the error of their ways. The sooner the better.

8 posted on 02/08/2003 1:10:53 PM PST by perfect stranger (I like to leave this area blank.)
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To: Willie Green
Bring back the Mob to Vegas.

This kind'a crap will vanish...fast!

Alot of desert...to few digs.

Mustang sends... :-D
9 posted on 02/08/2003 1:19:52 PM PST by Mustang
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To: MarkL
David Blaine is the one who impresses me. I have no idea how he does his stuff.
10 posted on 02/08/2003 1:21:48 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine (...Bismilah, NO we will not let you GO....)
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To: Willie Green
If you don't like their act don't go see it. If you don't like them, try to encourage others to avoid seeing their act. I do not live in a country where sombody else's idea of blaspheme needs to be my concern. There are countries like that. If you want to live in one try Saudi Arabia. I'll take America, warts and all.

As for Penn and Teller, they're mildly amusing I suppose, but I find magic tricks to be mostly boring.

11 posted on 02/08/2003 1:22:10 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Willie Green
--I'd like to see that pair of smirking arschlochs go somewhere such as Paris with it's Muslim population and do a skit of say, Abraham doing a "simulated" sex act on Mohammed--or even Hollywood (and this is not meant as anti-Semitism) and do Solomon doing David--what would happen to their careers then?
12 posted on 02/08/2003 1:23:37 PM PST by rellimpank
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To: perfect stranger
I used to think they were pretty funny. However, this Centurion/Crucifixion stunt is a joke I guess I "don't get". I mean, aside from its {apparent} sacreligious content, what is supposed to be funny about ut?

Also, I think Penn is rather conservative. I remember him supporting the elder Bush in '92.

Remember too, that Ayn Rand, another conservative icon and staunch anti-communist, was also a devout athiest.

13 posted on 02/08/2003 1:25:49 PM PST by Sans-Culotte
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To: Willie Green
After Gillette delivered a few one liners about Johnathan, a sheet was removed from a cart, revealing Teller, who appeared to be on a cross, naked from the waist down. A diminutive man appeared to be simulating oral sex on Teller.

Whatever your religious convictions, one must consider this gross. Riviera has sent an apology but I will still let them know how I feel about this.

14 posted on 02/08/2003 1:26:55 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: Sans-Culotte
Remember too, that Ayn Rand, another conservative icon

Ayn Rand is a libertarian deity, not conservative.

15 posted on 02/08/2003 1:28:55 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green
It wasn't Teller at all; it was Bill Clinton, he just thinks he's Jesus Christ.
16 posted on 02/08/2003 1:33:48 PM PST by Old Professer (<i>One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.)
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To: Willie Green
Here's the other threads:

Penn & Teller ridicule Christ's crucifixion (World Net Daily)

Roast Attendees Take Umbrage With Stunt By Penn & Teller -article on their sacrilegious stunt (Las Vegas Review Journal)

Unholy act (Penn & Teller) (New York Post)

There was an attempt to get ABC to eliminate Penn And Teller's act from the Super Bowl but Disney went through with the event (it was done on both ends of the game broadcast).

17 posted on 02/08/2003 1:37:29 PM PST by weegee
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To: BenLurkin
I think its called comedy, and if you had ANY sense of humor at all you'd be able to laugh at it instead of offended. Know what I'm offended by? People who are so serious in their lives that they can't laugh. Or people who are so sickeningly holier than thou that they can't walk out of a performance because its not to their taste. Or they can't turn the knob on the radio, or change the television station. Everything has to be to THEIR liking. Know what that called? Facism. And before you write it, I guarantee I'm more conservative that 90% of the people who post to this site. So attack away if you will. But I understand conservatism is about TOLERANCE. Unlike the Nazis who would bring this lawsuit.
18 posted on 02/08/2003 1:39:13 PM PST by the tongue
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To: the tongue
Penn is an atheist and loves to mock the Christian faith. It wasn't done as an attempt at "humor" it was done as an attempt at creating outrage.

Penn and Teller have been notably silent on their act though (as if they are afraid to have to answer for their actions).

19 posted on 02/08/2003 1:41:48 PM PST by weegee
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To: Sans-Culotte
Penn is against the death penalty (don't know his take on abortion, he has some jarred deformed fetuses in his "collection" at home).
20 posted on 02/08/2003 1:43:12 PM PST by weegee
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