PETA attacks white males in to save animals

TownHall.com ^ | 1/20/03 | Kathleen Parker

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[DBtoo]

What a bunch of crap!! PETA gives a bad name to people who love animals. I can't believe they are slamming white men as being most cruel to animals, as this is very untrue. This may be shockingly un-PC, but among men, white men are the MOST caring of animals. Go to any country in the world and observe the behavior of men towards their animals, and you will find this to be true. I know, I know... white males are only suppose to be very bad humans, never good.

I would like to know, just how long is this white-bashing going to go on? If all white people were to commit mass suicide (as too many would seem to relish) would the world really be a more peaceful place? I don't think so.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

You make a good point. Of all the six major continents, Europe, North America, and Australia [I would guess] are more inclined to have organizations like PETA. They are actually being racist against the very group that made their organization possible. Of course, it's a cultural matter, not a racial matter, an effort to exploit ignorance and prejudice. It's the CULTURE in North America that enables people to be concious of animals' suffering. Whether one is Asian, African, European, or Native American in origin isn't the point. A couple generations later, any one of them could have children who don't want animals to suffer.

I believe animals should receive anesthesia before being castrated. I'm no member of PETA-- I imagine I will eat meat the rest of my life, but give me a choice, I would prefer to do business with people who are kind to their animals, so long as the cost is not significantly higher. 10% more cost would be more than reasonable to me.

However, the enviro-wackos most likely would spout out half baked conspiracy theories about the dangers of the anesthesia. "Causes cancer, brain tumors, genetic deformities..." bla bla bla.

[Calico Cat]

"You sound like you might be a white male," I said.

"Yes, unfortunately I am," he sighed.

--Here's a guy who's been p-whipped by the best of them. Poor guy. Maybe someday he'll reclaim his lost masculinity, but I wouldn't hold my breath. He'll be cringing and apologizing to his last days, and still wondering why women don't respect him.

[stlrocket]

An article of interest - a few things that PETA doesn't talk much about.

PETA'S NAKED BLONDE PROTESTER - KAYLA - WAS BORN KEVIN! SHE IS/WAS A GUY!

[OXENinFLA]

I just caught a show on Cattle ranching last week.

They showed the whole process.

They pin the calves down, brand them, put a hormone shot in the ear, and cut their nuts off w/ a HUGE pair of pliers. The calf get up a runs of.

[dtel]

We do it a bit different.
We run 'em through a squeeze chute and have the vet do them.
She cuts the sac and removes the testes individually.
There is no anesthesia used in the process.
What surprised me is the calf doesn't even bawl.
I damn sure would.
For the record, we don't use any hormones or steroids in our animals.

[visualops]

The research I did indicates that the animals(calves) essentially don't feel pain during castration or neutering up to about 9 months. There may be some mild discomfort or soreness after the procedure, which increases with age. After 9 mos, anesthesia may be required. I don't know what the law is in the US.

[dtel]

From what I understand, there are very few anesthetics that work on cows.

I have pinged our resident vet for clarification.

[Iowa Granny]

The only group of people who get more trashing than white males, are Christian Smokers.

PETA followers would do well to have a 'Male Pantie Check'. When they honestly report on the percentage of circumcised male children they have in their families,,, then I'll talk business with them.

For the record, when pigs are 'cut' within the first week of life, they don't show any pain symptoms. However, I can testify from experience, cooking those tiny little oysters can be a hassle. The larger ones are much easier to handle in the kitchen.

[dtel]

Granny, if you are anything like my granny was, you have more testosterone coursing through your veins than half of the men in this country.
It is appalling to see the difference from just 25 years ago, much less 50 or more.

[tom h]

As for white males who feel bad because they're white, do y'all remember the one about the UC Santa Cruz professor who went to a diversity seminar 10 years ago, and rose the microphone and tearfully confessed his sins (to a grim-looking jury comprised of the usual concoction of diversity faces) and then proceeded to apologize for and indict the rest of white males in America.

None of this is new. So, don't get too upset about it. Liberals are a dying breed and PETA's positions are not worth losing sleep over.

[OperationFreedom]

ping for the latest PETA crapola

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

I believe animals should receive anesthesia before being castrated. I'm no member of PETA-- I imagine I will eat meat the rest of my life, but give me a choice, I would prefer to do business with people who are kind to their animals, so long as the cost is not significantly higher. 10% more cost would be more than reasonable to me.

There's not a ranch in the country that gives anesthesia before "cutting" their calves in the spring. Several times when I was young I helped friends in west Texas castrate 40-100 young bulls over a weekend. Never seemed to be a great deal of pain involved.

[vetvetdoug]

We use local anesthesia using Lidocaine 2% or Carbocaine2%. For perineal anesthesia we use a spinal block and for abdominal surgery use Lidocaine ring block and a sedative, xylazine. Facial surgery using a Petersen block and there are a myriad of others depending upon the location of the surgery. For dehorning and castration we ask the owner whether anesthesia is wanted which costs more. So far, no takers. Ironically, my large animal helpers are black. PETA is just looking to stir up a stink. Screw em....

[dtel]

Thanks for the info.

[dtel]

Thanks Doc.

[squibs]

We used an "elasterator" a small rubberband on the
scrotom. It pinches the testicles off in just a few
days. The bulls (just a few weeks old) never showed
any discomfort. They didn't even know anything happened to them.