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Pacifist hopes human shield will halt U.S. march to war: Human Shields or Panty Shields?
(Middletown, NY) The Times Herald-Record ^ | 1.04.03 | Paul Brooks and Deborah Medenbach

Posted on 01/04/2003 6:32:48 PM PST by rface

Manna Jo Greene knows she is not bulletproof, but she is willing to put herself on the line as part of a "human shield" to halt the seemingly unstoppable American-led invasion of Iraq.

Within two weeks, Greene hopes to travel from her home near Rosendale to Saddam Hussein's Iraq, the Middle East country in the United States' crosshairs. Organizers hope to get 5,000 volunteers for the effort.

"My intention is to prevent the war," Greene said yesterday. "I am willing to do whatever it takes. I intend to live with the Iraqi people and I hope the fact that 5,000 Americans are willing to do this will deter the war."

She will go despite the American government's ban on traveling there, despite the chance that war could explode there around her, despite the protests of her friends and co-workers, even of her two grown sons.

"'Ma, it's all well and good, and we appreciate your commitment,' " she said they told her at dinner in New York Thursday night, " 'but when you get to the airport, you have got to get past the Greene brothers to get on the plane.' "

There had been this frustration gnawing away at her in recent months as the war talk intensified, Greene said. Millions of Americans oppose the war under the current conditions, according to one poll, and anti-war demonstrations seemed fruitless. "Demonstrators are too easy to ignore," she said from her home on Cottekill Road. "But I couldn't think what to do about it."

Then she discovered the "Become the Change" campaign, initiated by Gandhi's grandson and others. She immediately signed a "peace pledge" to join 5,000 other Americans who will travel to Iraq in the weeks before the war, which many predict will come late this month or early in February. She estimates it will cost $2,000 to get to and from Iraq and to fulfill her two-week commitment.

"It's a very dangerous situation. ... I could find myself in an active war zone," she said. "It's possible I could get there and [organizers] not have someone to replace me. I could be detained," she said. "Anything can happen."

The decision doesn't come easy, said Greene, 57. The longtime environmental and anti-war advocate works for the Sloop Clearwater. She runs the Hudson Valley Sustainable Network, a group supporting environmentally sensitive construction, out of her home.

A pacifist, she said she used to schedule family vacations around marches in Washington, D.C.

"I am not defending Hussein," she said. "I abhor his methods as much as anyone."

War is different. "It's a waste of American lives and American resources," she said. "It's time to say enough is enough."

Right or wrong?

Manna Jo Greene believes she is acting in the best interest of peace and her country by using herself as a human shield against American bombs in Iraq. Do you believe she has a right and a duty to protest, or do you feel her actions are un-American?

Contact staff writer Paul Brooks at
pbrooks@th-record.com
and give us your opinion.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: New York
KEYWORDS: brownstainshorts; cannonfodder; darwinnominee; fools; humanshields; idiotwoman; liberalsilliness; stupidoldhippie
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"I am not defending Hussein," she said. "I abhor his methods as much as anyone.".....but I hate America even more, so I am going to Iraq to protect Saddam and his army, because I have decided to protect the "lesser of two evils"

Ashland, Missouri

1 posted on 01/04/2003 6:32:48 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
I'll bet Saddam will make a formal protest that low life liberals are invading his country.
2 posted on 01/04/2003 6:35:22 PM PST by Mark
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To: rface
Colin Powell should go on a national television broadcast and warn everyone planning to go to Iraq that they will be killed .... Tell the others to come home at once.

Sorry Charlie, you are 'dead meat.'

3 posted on 01/04/2003 6:38:14 PM PST by ex-Texan
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To: rface
I wany these Hippies to Die Off A.S.A.P.
4 posted on 01/04/2003 6:40:11 PM PST by cmsgop
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To: Mark

Manna Jo Greene
5 posted on 01/04/2003 6:40:36 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
Manna, (what kind of a stupid name is this?)

I would be happy to, personally,drop a bomb on you and the other 4999 human shields.
6 posted on 01/04/2003 6:40:38 PM PST by philetus
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To: rface
Is there a web site where we can sponsor as many of these traitorous imbeciles as possible? Can we provide them with bulls-eye t-shirts and GPS broadcast devices so they can just move to high value targets and make the job of avoiding collateral damage that much easier for our pilots?
8 posted on 01/04/2003 6:44:32 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: rface
She estimates it will cost $2,000 to get to and from Iraq and to fulfill her two-week commitment.

I'll sell her a five gallon can of gasoline for half that price. She can douse and torch herself in the comfort of her own home.

9 posted on 01/04/2003 6:45:54 PM PST by per loin
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Can somebody find me the actual Hague Convention rules that says that human shields are war criminals?

REPEAT: THIS WOMAN IS A WAR CRIMINAL!!!
10 posted on 01/04/2003 6:48:12 PM PST by Sparta
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To: philetus
Manna, (what kind of a stupid name is this?)

Manna= Spiritual nourishment of divine origin.

I don't think so.

11 posted on 01/04/2003 6:48:17 PM PST by socal_parrot
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To: per loin
She estimates it will cost $2,000 to get to and from Iraq

Why not make it a one way ticket and show some real commitment? Not really serious about being a human shield, huh?

12 posted on 01/04/2003 6:49:16 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: cynaman
So - you want to be a Human Shield? Sign Up Now!!! CLICK HERE((......what the hell - I didn't have any plans for this years vacation, so I signed up to be a panty shield. Maybe we all can sign up - we can smuggle in some weapons, kill Hussein and save the world a big headache.))

from the link...)Think of it as a vacation for peace.

An organization called the Iraq Peace Team is ready to take volunteers to Iraq -- it has taken numerous other expeditions successfully and safely. Please refer to this link for questions of safety and legality.

It would probably cost no more than a comparable two-week vacation in Hawaii or the Caribbean, yet you would be participating in making history and saving lives.

For these reasons, we want you to sign this pledge. Choose the number of people who would also need to go, for you to feel comfortable going. Once we gather all the data, we plan to use the numbers in the national media.

Think what it would do to apathy if 100,000 people are willing to go to prevent this unjust war!

Join us and make the Pledge!

The Pledge

If 5,000 500 1,000 10,000 15,000 others will go, I will join them in Iraq to prevent loss of life and the spread of war in Iraq and to encourage non-violent resolutions to the complex issues that we face.

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Name:

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Anything else about yourself?

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If you have any comments, suggestions, questions about the pledge, what you think of this war, please let us know

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*If you do not fill this in, your pledge will not get to us.

13 posted on 01/04/2003 6:49:19 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
"She estimates it will cost $2,000 to get to and from Iraq and to fulfill her two-week commitment. "

She will not need a return ticket. Her ticket is gonna get punched in Iraq!

14 posted on 01/04/2003 6:50:48 PM PST by lawdude
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To: Larry Lucido
She is under the illusion that we would not fire, if firing could injure HER.
15 posted on 01/04/2003 6:56:06 PM PST by per loin
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To: lawdude
How much Pain can a Human Shield withstand???
16 posted on 01/04/2003 6:57:05 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
DARWIN AWARD WINNER!
17 posted on 01/04/2003 7:02:52 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: rface
I see this as a good thing. Once the bombs start falling and all those "human shields" are gone, humanity as a whole will be a lot better.
18 posted on 01/04/2003 7:06:51 PM PST by Simmy
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To: rface
I want these idiots to gather closely around Hussein in large numbrs. It will make him easy to find. Then lets detonate a small nuclear warhead on top of the entire crowd and break out the champaigne.
19 posted on 01/04/2003 7:08:33 PM PST by RLK
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
You stole my thunder! Was going to write:

DARWIN AWARD ALERT!
20 posted on 01/04/2003 7:08:47 PM PST by demkicker
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