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New Tolkien book discovered
News.com.au ^ | 12/30/02

Posted on 01/02/2003 7:26:56 PM PST by John Farson

A yellowing manuscript by J.R.R.Tolkien discovered in an Oxford library could become one of the publishing sensations of 2003.

The 2000 handwritten pages include Tolkien's translation and appraisal of Beowulf, the epic 8th century Anglo-Saxon poem of bravery, friendship and monster-slaying that is thought to have inspired The Lord of the Rings.

He borrowed from early English verse to concoct the imaginary language spoken by Arwen, played by Liv Tyler, and other elves in the second film made from the Rings books, The Two Towers.

A US academic, Michael Drout, found the Tolkien material by accident in a box of papers at the Bodleian Library in Oxford.

An assistant professor of English at Wheaton College in Norton, Massachusetts, Dr Drout was researching Anglo- Saxon scholarship at the Bodleian, and asked to see a copy of a lecture on Beowulf given by Tolkien in 1936.

It was brought to him in a reading room in a large box. Professor Drout, who reads Anglo-Saxon prose to his two-year-old daughter at bedtime, said: "I was sitting there going through the transcripts when I saw these four bound volumes at the bottom of the box.

"I started looking through, and realised I had found an entire book of material that had never seen the light of day. As I turned the page, there was Tolkien's fingerprint in a smudge of ink."

After obtaining permission from the Tolkien estate, Professor Drout published Beowulf and the Critics, a version of Tolkien's 1936 lecture, in the US earlier this month.

Even more exciting will be Tolkien's translation of the poem and his line-by-line interpretation of its meaning, which will be published next summer.

Tolkien's name on the cover is likely to make the translation a bestseller.

Professor Drout says Tolkien found inspiration for many of his storylines and characters in Beowulf. The Anglo-Saxon hero's friendship with Wiglaf is mirrored in the relationship between Frodo and Sam in The Lord of the Rings.

Elves, orcs and ents, the latter a type of giant that becomes a walking and talking tree in Tolkien's work, are all mentioned in Beowulf.

Merlin Unwin, son of Tolkien's original publisher, said: "Beowulf is a wonderful story, and if you put Tolkien's name to it, it would probably be a great commercial success."


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To: Radix; John Farson; HairOfTheDog
I cannot take another three hour movie.

They did seem to cut it short didn't they...

21 posted on 01/02/2003 7:54:18 PM PST by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands
They did seem to cut it short didn't they...

Yeah, they did. Now we have to wait for the "extended" edition to get the really good stuff...then the extended extended edition when the third one comes out...then the boxed set of extended extended extended Director's Cut editions for the low, low price of $199.95 - and that's for those of us who will already have bought the individual versions...

23 posted on 01/02/2003 7:58:15 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: John Farson
He borrowed from early English verse to concoct the imaginary language spoken by Arwen, played by Liv Tyler, and other elves in the second film made from the Rings books, The Two Towers.

I thought Elvish was based on Finnish.




24 posted on 01/02/2003 7:59:20 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Corin Stormhands
One PING to rule them all!


LoL!
25 posted on 01/02/2003 8:02:15 PM PST by Radix
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To: Corin Stormhands
One PING to rule them all!


LoL!
26 posted on 01/02/2003 8:02:16 PM PST by Radix
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To: Billthedrill
"Well, I have hopes but let's face it - Tolkien was a superb professional philologist whose specialty was mind-bogglingly obscure. Not everyone is going to be enthralled by a learned discussion on the declension of old German verbs..."

From an earlier thread link, he was likely a genious, and slightly autistic.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers.html?pg=1&topic=&topic_set

27 posted on 01/02/2003 8:08:33 PM PST by MonroeDNA
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To: John Farson
Detta är ännu ett alvspråk som man kan kan få ta dela av på min hemsida:

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28 posted on 01/02/2003 8:11:50 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Sabertooth
I saw the movie and all that I could think of was finish.

It still took three hours.


Can you say Yawn?
29 posted on 01/02/2003 8:13:58 PM PST by Radix
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To: John Farson
Frankly, the only passages of Tolkien's work that I really savored, and that I suspect he really enjoyed writing, were those relating to feasts, cooking, eating, drinking and smoking.

The man taught me, as a teenager, to relish the sensory. Well, at least sensory experiences as far as the higher regions of my body were concerned.
30 posted on 01/02/2003 8:19:49 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: John Farson
New Tolkien book discovered

A US academic, Michael Drout, found the Tolkien material by accident in a box of papers at the Bodleian Library in Oxford.

- Right next to the Colonel’s Rotisserie Chicken recipe.

31 posted on 01/02/2003 8:29:43 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; HairOfTheDog
This is fun. Has this been posted at the Hobbit Hole?
32 posted on 01/02/2003 8:36:23 PM PST by Samwise
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To: Samwise; Corin Stormhands
Maybe not that one... but a similar one! - Corin collects that stuff!
34 posted on 01/02/2003 8:42:55 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sabertooth
Tolkien's name on the cover is likely to make the translation a bestseller.

I just can't imagine how many times you'll be reading this book, not to mention seeing it when it hits the big screen. ;-)


. .

35 posted on 01/02/2003 8:46:15 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Sabertooth
I thought Elvish was based on Finnish.

It is! My books are buried. Otherwise I'd pull out a reference... Maybe JameRatief or The Iguana can confirm (or deny...)

36 posted on 01/02/2003 8:47:03 PM PST by BradyLS
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To: Victoria Delsoul
I just can't imagine how many times you'll be reading this book, not to mention seeing it when it hits the big screen. ;-)

Plus, I have to get every edition, hardbound and paperback, with every different cover.




37 posted on 01/02/2003 8:48:34 PM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
LOL!!! yep, that's you.
38 posted on 01/02/2003 8:50:21 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: John Farson
Alright! Tolkien rules!
39 posted on 01/02/2003 8:56:54 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: John Farson
Oh great, something else to inspire 400 orgasmic threads and no less than 10 movies..

They should have burned it.

40 posted on 01/02/2003 9:07:04 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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