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Report - First human clone born - It's a girl
AFP via Babelfish ^ | December 27, 2002

Posted on 12/26/2002 6:02:33 PM PST by HAL9000

Birth of a small girl obtained by cloning, according to the sect of the raéliens

Friday December 27, 2002 - 1h49 GMT

MIAMI (the United States), 26 déc (AFP) - the scientist Frenchwoman and member of the sect of the raéliens Brigitte Boisselier affirmed Thursday evening with the AFP to have put at the world a baby obtained by the technique of the cloning.

The baby, a small girl, came in the world "today" (Thursday) by Caesarean. "Ca they passed very well", was restricted to affirm Mrs. Boisselier, president of the company of human cloning Clonaid, joined by telephone in Miami (Florida, south-east of the United States).

The effort of the raéliens to put at the world the first cloné baby having been realized in the greatest secrecy, it was not possible, in the absence of a scientific publication in the code of practice, to obtain for the moment an unspecified independent scientific confirmation that the baby was well a clone.

Questioned on the circumstances of this birth, it scientific Frenchwoman refused to give further information immediately more, in particular the birthplace.

"I prefer not in saying more for the moment", has it says, by adding that it would make a public presentation Friday in Florida.

It did not specify either if it would introduce the baby at this occasion.

November 27, Mrs. Boisselier had indicated to the AFP that this birth was awaited by an American couple.

If this birth were confirmed of independent scientific source, it would be about the first baby obtained by the discussed technique of the human cloning and whose birth will have been publicly announced.



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; clonaid; clone; cloning; culthoax; fountainofyouth; immortality; sickandwrong
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To: HAL9000
This may or may not be a hoax but someone will do this before much longer. This is what scientific research performed in a moral vacuum ultimately leads to.

We've taken God's procreational gift and perverted it in just about every way possible. From the condom culture to the aborting of naturally conceived children, to the exhaltation of sodomy. Cloning just about completes the full set of abuses.

Human pride once again rebels against God's natural order. We have to take something beautiful, which is the fruitfulness of a man and a woman joined in wedlock, and piss it up against a wall.

81 posted on 12/26/2002 6:57:02 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: HAL9000
Brings back my memories of reading The Stepford Wives. Eeek!
82 posted on 12/26/2002 7:00:52 PM PST by Salvation
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To: mikegi
".......we are obliged to care for Her......" "WE??" Since When??? Doc
83 posted on 12/26/2002 7:01:17 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: Cvengr
Theologically, there are significant doctrinal issues regarding the spirit. Some hold that the body, soul and spirit become life upon conception.

Identical twins automatically refute the idea that a human being is created at conception.

Hank

84 posted on 12/26/2002 7:01:23 PM PST by Hank Kerchief
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To: Nick Danger
"That's just dumb."

Of course it is - but I'm still waiting for the evidence that anything happened here. Unless they've found someone who has worked well outside the science community there is no ethical reason to attempt to clone any human.

85 posted on 12/26/2002 7:02:36 PM PST by garbanzo
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To: Hank Kerchief
Identical twins automatically refute the idea that a human being is created at conception

Yes. Identical twins show that two people can be created at conception.

86 posted on 12/26/2002 7:05:24 PM PST by syriacus
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To: freepersup
Maybe they meant"CONE" head.
87 posted on 12/26/2002 7:05:58 PM PST by ohiobushman
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To: Petronski
So wait a minute: is she a monkey's uncle?
88 posted on 12/26/2002 7:06:23 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: FourPeas
Sergei Fedorov will not be happy.

HE SHOOTS, HE SCORES!

Lucky guy.

89 posted on 12/26/2002 7:08:47 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: prophetic; Cvengr
The real question is,...does it have a soul or spirit? If not then does it become a body available to unbodied spirits?

very intresting angle you brought up here. <

Yes it is. Something I have also wondered about. God have mercy on us and this little girl if this story is true.

90 posted on 12/26/2002 7:11:23 PM PST by Scupoli
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To: Hank Kerchief
Hank, this is a major theological issue.

Yes, zombies, although the popular theme of sci-fi and horror show lore, do touch upon the same theme.

Research body, soul and spirit.

There are dichotomous views and trichotomous views(sp?). Some say there is body and then a soul-spirit. Others discern a separate body, soul, and spirit. Even in the creation of man, the body was formed by God from dust, soul was made by God (frequently associated with the mind), and the spirit created by God.

There are also significant theological and doctrinal issues regarding salvation and death in Scripture which hinge upon these definitions. Many places in Scripture simply associate death as a separation. Seaparation of body from soul and spirit, separation of spirit from soul and separation from God.

One significant feature of Christ, was a bodily death, separation of spirit being returned to God, separation of soul, descending to Hades, a resurrection of soul and return of spirit to the body and ascension to the third heaven to the right hand of the Father.

Scripture as well as many other false religions definitely acknowledge disembodied spirits. It is also well known that the Adversary is described as a malevolent deceiver and seeks a counterfeit plan to God's plan.

Perhaps Scripture handles this much more confidently than my lack of knowledge displays caution, but IMHO, it's not a domain to be treated nonchalantly or ignorantly. Seems to me that a great deal of counterfeit actions might occur with regards the soul and spirit.

91 posted on 12/26/2002 7:12:41 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: HAL9000
Sounds like a modern day Tower of Babel to me!
92 posted on 12/26/2002 7:18:07 PM PST by Doctor Don
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To: MsCynic
Some interesting responses on this thread.
93 posted on 12/26/2002 7:18:30 PM PST by KineticKitty
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To: Shermy
How about Minime

http://www.austinpowers.com/objects/images/minimesitting.jpg
94 posted on 12/26/2002 7:23:20 PM PST by InShanghai
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To: dead
"They cloned a human like I've been banging Anna Kournikova." :-)
95 posted on 12/26/2002 7:26:01 PM PST by Lloyd227
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To: Musketeer
Can't clone a boy at the present because while you can get the dna right, you still have mitochondrial rna from the mom.
96 posted on 12/26/2002 7:26:49 PM PST by staytrue
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To: Hank Kerchief
The Problem Is--WE DON'T KNOW!! Our Scientists have Created a Creature Beyond our total understanding! If There Exists "Non-Genetic" characteristics inherent in "Human Nature," WHAT HAVE WE WROUGHT?? In THIS Particular instance, our "Scientific Hubris" MAY HAVE OutStripped our Actual factual "Hard Science" regarding Human Cloning! Doc
97 posted on 12/26/2002 7:27:30 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: dighton
he was whisked off from the Périgord area of France to the Elohim's own planet. On this paradisiacal world, where pink and blue squirrels with bearlike heads frolicked in beautiful flowering trees, and people flew around with the aid of special belts with big buckles, Raë met the great prophets of Earth, kept alive through the miracle of science. Among them were Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Moses and Elijah. Raë was told that his own birth, in September 1946, had been arranged by the Elohim, who wanted to send a final prophet to Earth after the atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The alien who fathered him, he learnt, was the same 'man' who had sired Christ, making them half-brothers.

Well this group looks like real winners /sarcasm

Something tells me this cloning is not real

98 posted on 12/26/2002 7:28:10 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Shermy
Key-o-cera
99 posted on 12/26/2002 7:32:53 PM PST by OrioleFan
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To: prophetic
Identical twins I assume have souls. A clone is a twin born at a time apart.
100 posted on 12/26/2002 7:33:47 PM PST by xp38
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