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Sean Hannity is gonna hang himself with this Lott issue.
Sean Hannity's Website ^

Posted on 12/12/2002 1:53:42 PM PST by VaBthang4

Hannity.com Frontpage:

"Saying he used "a poor choice of words," Trent Lott spoke with Sean on the newsmakers phoneline at length on December 11th in an exclusive interview. This follows a firestorm of criticism by Liberals and Conservatives alike in reaction to comments made by Lott at Sen Strom Thurman's 100th birthday party."


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To: holdonnow
"Lott will stem the tide, are fooling themselves. If we don't have a full debate on this issue, as Rush and Sean have said, then the lib media and the Democrats are free to rewrite history, as they're doing under our noses right now."

The two are not one.

You can have a discussion after you dump Lott.

If you try and defend Lott by pointing at them then you are simply as Liberal as they are. There is no moral equivalence.

Lott said what he said. It is wholy seperate to what anyone else has said. They are his remarks. He has apologized, fine now he alone should whether the storm...any conservative defending him is an idiot.

Now if a Conservative wants to simply point out the hypocracy..then fine. If we want to talk about it seperate from defending Lott then fine but trying to link the two is just plain foolish[IMHO]. :o)

261 posted on 12/13/2002 12:03:27 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: Ohioan
Fine. Ask the gatekeepers-- Racicot and Dubya-- whom they would have supported. They wouldn't say Truman or or Wallace or Thurmond.
262 posted on 12/13/2002 12:04:25 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: SerpentDove
Bam right on point...this whole thing exposes some of the self-confessed Conservatives who actually operate and think just like Liberals.

What someone else does is of no consequence to what Lott did.
263 posted on 12/13/2002 12:05:28 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: A CA Guy
From Associated Press (EXCERPT):

"Senate Republican leader Trent Lott tried to help Bob Jones University keep its federal tax-exempt status despite the school's policy prohibiting interracial dating two decades before his recent comments stirred a race controversy.

"Racial discrimination does not always violate public policy," Lott, then a congressman from Mississippi, wrote in a 1981 friend of the court brief that unsuccessfully urged the U.S. Supreme Court to stop the Internal Revenue Service from stripping the university's tax exemption.

264 posted on 12/13/2002 12:05:42 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: TLBSHOW
Stop being a jerk.

Discuss it or break out but dont be an idiot about it.
265 posted on 12/13/2002 12:06:40 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: SerpentDove
That is the one that sunk Lott with my Conservative/Liberty University attending girlfriend.
266 posted on 12/13/2002 12:07:50 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: All

Trent who?

267 posted on 12/13/2002 12:07:59 PM PST by tuna_battle
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To: krodriguesdc
Then you will assist in losing the Senate in 2004 and possibly the House if you do.

Chess not Checkers.
268 posted on 12/13/2002 12:09:57 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: SerpentDove
You're right, but my comment had nothing to do with adopting an "everybody does it" mentality. I'm suggesting that the Democrats in the U.S. Senate are irrelevant to any discussion about a person's character and ability to hold public office because they have clearly demonstrated that they have no standards at all.

If someone told me that 2 + 2 equals 39.3, then I'm sure as hell not going to give a sh!t what he has to say about differential calculus.

269 posted on 12/13/2002 12:12:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Very good post #246
270 posted on 12/13/2002 12:14:29 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: aruanan
What do you think Trent Lott meant by saying "We wouldn't have had all these problems all these years"..?

Doesn't it make you curious that he has explained his remarks besides a mealymouth apology, though he has had plenty of time?

Lott has given no exculpatory explanation of his remarks, and that is odd to me. If his remarks were innocent, just say "What I meant was..." and be done with it.

I have read many interesting theories of "What he meant was..." but these are meaningless. We heard what we heard.

I don't want an apology, but I am dying for an explanation that has not been forthcoming.
271 posted on 12/13/2002 12:15:28 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: RAT Patrol
>>However, they are uniquely in a position to be most offended by Lott's remarks. Whites are not. <<

You are wrong. You think whites aren't offended when their majority leader says racially insensitive things.

Dead wrong.
272 posted on 12/13/2002 12:18:27 PM PST by SerpentDove
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To: SerpentDove
I'm not advocating that we change our standards at all. But aren't you tired of the press and PC people holding us to one standard while allowing the libs to say what they want without criticism?
273 posted on 12/13/2002 12:20:21 PM PST by Peach
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To: SunStar
I don't understand why Rush and Hannity want to keep Lott in power. Lott has stabbed conservatives in the back too many times... From the "power sharing" deals with the 'Rats to this enormously stupid gaffe, it's time for Lott to go. It's really the perfect time too, considering we just gained the Senate majority back, but the new session hasn't started yet.

You can say this after what you saw the press do to Newt and George Bush? If we let them "out" anyone they want, they win!

274 posted on 12/13/2002 12:21:25 PM PST by cinFLA
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To: VaBthang4
It bothers me when I hear conservatives and liberals calling for Lott's resignation. What Lott said has been distorted and blown way out of proportion. This is just another play from the democrats playbook. After they get Lott they will be looking for the next republican to destroy with their politics of personal destruction. And the destruction will go on and on and on!

There is a silver lining in this storm cloud. This is an excellent opportunity for the republican party to show black folks what hypocrits the democrats are. So I would like to see Lott remain the leader in the senate for 2003.

275 posted on 12/13/2002 12:23:01 PM PST by txoilman
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To: All; MP5SD; xsmommy; rintense; deport; Torie; kayak; GVgirl; MJY1288; Mo1; TLBSHOW; spetznaz; ...

December 13, 2002, 10:00 a.m.
Lott Should Go
A bad Majority Leader gets worse.

By NR Editors

enate Majority Leader Trent Lott "has proven himself better suited to the back bench, where he is at least a generally reliable conservative vote. And there is an alternative in Oklahoma Sen. Don Nickles . . . Conservatives should encourage Nickles to make the — admittedly risky — challenge against Lott."

Thus wrote National Review in November 1998 after the GOP midterm disaster that year. We have long considered Lott a clumsy and ineffective Republican leader, and his controversial Strom Thurmond birthday remarks are a spectacular confirmation of that judgment. Is Lott a racist? We don't think so. Are many of the attacks on him dishonest and opportunistic? Yes. But he has been a poor leader of Senate Republicans, and the latest gaffe will only further erode his standing and his ability to lead.

Lott stands to become the most unpopular congressional Republican since Newt Gingrich. That alone shouldn't be disqualifying (and NR defended Gingrich from most of the charges hurled at him). Consider, however, the comparison: Gingrich became a reviled public figure who had won a historic victory in 1994 and possessed an active (sometimes overactive) political imagination. Lott will be a reviled public figure who is a sub-par Majority Leader, period.

NR tries to make its practical political judgments based on what is best for the conservative cause. The advantage of maintaining Lott as Majority Leader as opposed to any number of his colleagues — not just Nickles, but Jon Kyl, Mitch McConnell, Rick Santorum — is nil. He can only be a drag. Conservatives should be able to argue for constitutionalist judges, race-blind governmental policies, tighter immigration laws, welfare reform, and limited government generally without the dead weight of a Senate Majority Leader who has created a cloud over himself and his party through his own thoughtlessness.

It will no doubt be difficult for Lott's colleagues, who are his friends, to force him out of his job. That's why Lott should realize the damage he has done to his party, and step aside. Failing that, the White House, with a broader political perspective than that of the members of the Senate club, should urge him to relinquish his leadership position.

Minority leader Tom Daschle's initial reaction (prior to his mauling by the Congressional Black Caucus) to Lott's remarks was essentially sound — Lott misspoke. But Lott misspoke in a particular way, one freighted with symbolic significance. Many southern whites of a certain generation have a shameful past on civil-rights issues. This doesn't necessarily make them reprehensible people, or mean that they are racists today. But, when they are public figures, it is reasonable to expect from them an honest reckoning with their past, and, of course, an awareness that a reckoning is necessary.

Many conservatives will be tempted to defend Lott because of the nature of some of the attacks on him. It's an understandable impulse. But it is possible for someone simultaneously to suffer unfair attacks, handle himself and his predicament poorly, and be an underwhelming political figure. Trent Lott has managed a trifecta. For NR to rally to his side now would amount to defending him because he is being accused of racism.

We usually pride ourselves on being fair-weather critics of, and foul-weather friends to, conservative politicians. Lott is in for a long bout of foul weather. But we can't be loyal to a Majority Leader who we didn't support in the first place.

276 posted on 12/13/2002 12:24:43 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
I asked him a question that he won't answer because the plan he has is to attack Lott! Non stop! The right is being used by democrats and we are being laughed at. If you like that so be it.
277 posted on 12/13/2002 12:26:21 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
when Lott apologizes today are you finished being a democrats mouth piece?

Since when can only Democrats be insulted by racism? I am a white Republican and Lott's comments offended me. I want less racism and stupidity in OUR leaders.

278 posted on 12/13/2002 12:26:36 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Alberta's Child
If the Democrats were taking his comments seriously, then they would be as vociferous in calling for his removal as many Republicans are instead of suggesting that he could "win forgiveness" by voting a certain way.

The Dems want a feeble Majority Leader. Wouldn't you want a feebled Daschle? Of course.

I wasn't even talking about the "hypocrisy" of the Democrats -- I am pointing out that their views on this issue (AND ANY OTHER ISSUE) are absolutely irrelevant because they clearly have no defined standard of behavior on which to base their views.

I don't care what the Dems have to say on this.

279 posted on 12/13/2002 12:29:19 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: SerpentDove
I don't want an apology, but I am dying for an explanation that has not been forthcoming.

I can't imagine anything that doesn't involve Clintonesque word parsing that could satisfactorily explain away such a comment. It sounded so mealy-mouthed to hear Lott on Hannity claiming it was the Dixiecrat's positions on crime and defense that he was referring to. I am dying to hear what Lott's speechwriters could even come up with for tonight's press conference.

280 posted on 12/13/2002 12:30:51 PM PST by Yaelle
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