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FReeper moving to D/FW area needs input on area Churches & Schools
November 26, 2002 | getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Posted on 11/26/2002 6:46:50 PM PST by MeekOneGOP

FReeper moving to D/FW area needs input on area Churches & Schools

Not for myself, but for FReeper getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL, whose spouse is military and being reassigned. Their family will relocate to the Dallas/Fort Worth, Texas area and wishes to establish themselves. Since I am not a wealth of information regarding the schools and churches, I suggested that I could try to help by posting a "vanity" article to seek help from the good FReepers in the D/FW area that were familiar with the schools and churches and could provide helpful input.

Here is a note I received from getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL regarding her needs, etc...


I would love any information on Christian and/or Catholic schools that are known for their strong emphasis in Biblical teaching. Churches of the same mindset, as well; very community & fellowship oriented (as dh is gone a lot, and I could definitely use some like-minded friends, and even some help with my children at times).

After finding these two things, I would then like info on home builders, family-oriented neighborhoods, wonderful parks, etc...

If I had to move tomorrow, what I have found so far leads me to the west-southwestern part of Plano, north Carrollton area, I suppose. So far, what I have read about, I am really interested in Carrollton Christian Academy. I would love some personal experiences regarding this area and/or school, if anyone has had them.

I really appreciate your help! We are facing the possible activation of dh's military status, and would like to move within the next 6 months in order to take advantage of low interest rates. I keep elaborating, but I'll spare you.

Folks can private mail me, or arrange this however you see best.

Thank you so much!


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To: MeeknMing
Find a nice small town outside of DFW>
21 posted on 11/26/2002 7:51:35 PM PST by philetus
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To: DallasMike; getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Thank you sir ! I got a FReep mail from getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL and she will reply to all on this article tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone for your help !

22 posted on 11/26/2002 7:53:47 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
heh heh ! G'night, FRiend !!
23 posted on 11/26/2002 8:13:41 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
Hope you think about moving to Texas also Meek, follow your friends here. Tell her to forget Arlington, it is a cesspool of gangs and very bad schools. Bedford is still pretty small town, she might want to look at Colleyville, South Lake, Mansfield, those areas are nice, good schools.

Dallas school district is a shambles, a total shambles, stay away from it. Plano has more suicides of teens than any where else in the nation. There are islands of sanity still left here, she just has to be real careful where she sets down roots.
24 posted on 11/26/2002 8:22:20 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MeeknMing
Places to live: Ft Worth (north side), North Richland Hills, Watauga, Hurst, Bedford, Plano, Frisco, far north Dallas area.

Places to not live: Euless, South Ft Worth, South Dallas, Oak Cliff, West Ft Worth is ok just not near anything, Irving, Richardson, Dallas (except maybe north east)

Have them give me a freep mail if they want any more information.

25 posted on 11/26/2002 8:24:58 PM PST by Centurion2000
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To: MeeknMing
I live in the area they are interested in.

May I suggest Denton County. Denton probably has more republicans than most counties in Texas.

North Carrollton http://www.ci.carrollton.tx.us is nice and the town is well established so some of the concerns a rapidly growing town faces Carrollton has already overcome. In North Carrollton is the Prince of Peace School http://www.popcs.net And, we have friends that attend Covenant Church in Carrollton and they have a school associated with the church. http://www.starsaha.org

Another town lots of folks overlook is The Colony. It is pretty much the size it will be (residentially) and this insures the hometown feel will remain. The town has a good mix of housing prices which allows people of all positions in life to interact. They also are right on Lake Lewisville and have two golf courses. http://www.ci.the-colony.tx.us

I believe based on the extreme rate of growth and knowing folks who live there and are now regretful they moved there I would avoid Frisco. Frisco has grown so fast they have lost their small town feel. They are struggling with building the infrastructure to keep up with the growth. Recently passed an enormous bond to keep up with growth (to include work force housing). Also, the traffic into Frisco is dreadful at the end of the day and trying to get out in the morning is not the way to start one's morning. There is also a 'keeping up with the Jones' attitude among some of those who reside in Frisco.

Highland Village is nice.

Just remain in Denton County.

God's Speed!

26 posted on 11/26/2002 9:04:21 PM PST by zeaal
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To: jellybean; MeeknMing; getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Carlo, do you have any recommendations for this very fine lady?

Indeed I do, first let me say;

Welcome to the real American spirit TEXAS, not just a state, but a state of mind!

With few exceptions, your going to love the people, places, and things in this state.

I lived in an area about 40 miles north of Dallas, if that is your destination.. Freep me!!
 

27 posted on 11/26/2002 9:16:09 PM PST by carlo3b
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To: zeaal
Forgot a school ... Prestonwood Christian Academy. http://www.prestonwoodchristian.org They are located on the very edge of east Carrollton in far, far west Plano. We know several families who attend Prestonwood Baptist and they are blessed by their ministry and programs for families.
28 posted on 11/26/2002 9:18:24 PM PST by zeaal
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To: carlo3b
I knew I could count on you!
29 posted on 11/26/2002 9:21:09 PM PST by jellybean
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To: MeeknMing
What type and size (and worship style) of church are they looking for? Where will they be working? Looking to own or to rent? You mentioned Christian Schools. Would public schools be a factor? (i.e. - if they are renting and going the private school route, why pay a premium for a good school district?)

My recollection is that the top three school districts in the DFW area were Highland Park (by a large margin), Sunnyvale, and Plano. Housing in HP is very expensive, but there are actually affordable deals on rentals.

Churches will not be a problem in the metroplex. There is a tremendous selection of large, full service churches.

30 posted on 11/26/2002 9:21:23 PM PST by PAR35
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To: MeeknMing
I LIVE here in the Carrolton area; my daughter has attended Trinity Christian Academy since she was in Kindergarten, she is now a Sophomore.. she loves the school; wonderful Christian atmosphere... TCA has possibly the best academic standards of any private school in the North Dallas area. (the High School has a College Prep curriculum.) It's a great school to check out. (even some of the kids whose dads play with the Dallas Mavericks and Dallas Cowboys attend here.)

As for Churches...well, there are tons of churches in this area..depends on what you're looking for, I imagine. Personally.. since we are not Charismatic or Dispensational; and we are theologically Reformed.. we've found that the the best fellowship for us is with Metrocrest Presbyterian Church.. (This body is a Conservative member of the Presbyterian Church in America) This is a small church, so; it's easy to get to know the members; wonderful teaching; with a solidly Reformed pastor. We enjoy worshipping here.

But; as I've said; there are many flavors of Churches in this area..I suppose the choice of a church really depends on what doctrinal views a person holds regarding Ecclesiology; the Sacrements.. Soteriology.. that sorta thing. As such; I can only recommend churches that I've been in contact within the small Reformed community in North Dallas.

Aside from all that; tell your friend that this area is a very nice place to live.. :>) I've lived in this area for over 10 years now.. it's one of the best areas to live in the Dallas area.
31 posted on 11/26/2002 9:22:41 PM PST by Biblical Calvinist
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To: Centurion2000
CENTURION2000 WROTE: "Places to not live: Euless, South Ft Worth..."

I agree completely with not living in Useless, I mean Euless, but totally disagree with your opinion of South Fort Worth.

First off, for all you foreigners out there (i.e. anyplace outside of Texas), Fort Worth is where the West began, and Dallas is where the East...peters out!

The South West side of Tarrant County (Fort Worth) is a great place to live---and DRIVE in. Unlike driving ANYWHERE in crowded Dallas or in the hectic North East part of Tarrant County, the traffic is MUCH LESS on the South West side of town---except the Hulen St. area...and they're building a Krispy Kreme shop just North of Hulen at Grandbury Rd.

BELIEVE ME...you will get to work in just a FRACTION of the time in SW Fort Worth than pretty much ANYWHERE else in the DFW area. And the drivers and shoppers are MUCH friendlier in SW Fort Worth than ANYWHERE else in the DFW area.

I've been to MANY different Churches: Disciples of Christ, Catholic, Baptist, Morman, Methodist, Presbyterian (sp?), and Episcopal. I've even been to Jewish services and Messianic Jewish services (the Messianic Jewish services are actually kind of neat).

The best Church I've EVER found is SOUTHCLIFF BAPTIST CHURCH, located at I-20 at Granbury Rd---BAR NONE!!! I think there are something like 30 different types of ministries, e.g. for disabled kids (and respite nights for their parents 2x/month), unplanned pregnancy help, shut-ins, foreign and domestic missionaries, etc.

There is a a beautiful sounding FULL ORCHESTRA pretty much every Sunday---not canned music. There are some of the best singers I've heard in a Church. There is a FELLOWSHIP among the Church Members that I have longed for all my life...If you need help, the Members are right there for you!

And the Paster is fantastic! I remember sermons from when we first attended (2 years ago or so). Check it out: http://www.southcliff.com. And if you're going to be in town on 12/04, 12/07, or 12/11, FReep Mail me and you can come to our FANTASTIC SINGING CHRISTMAS TREE program...I've got some extra tickets, but they go fast. God is definately present at that program!

And last, but not least, there is a political saying that "As goes Tarrant County, so goes Texas and so goes the Nation." I've found it to be true for years.

32 posted on 11/26/2002 9:29:17 PM PST by Concerned
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To: MeeknMing
Someone said to stay out of Arlington; I agree, and ditto for Grand Prairie. If you need into the North Dallas area, I'd go further up to Allen, which the last time I was there still had its "small town" atmosphere.
Commuting anywhere in the Mid-Cities area is a bear, but that's probably true in any large SMSA anymore.
33 posted on 11/26/2002 9:31:11 PM PST by Marauder
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To: Concerned
I forgot to mention that Southcliff Baptist Church also has a GREAT preschool. And I've heard that SW Christian Academy is a great place for when the kids are a little older.

If you are looking for a private secular school, Fort Worth Country Day School http://www.fwcds.org/public.shtml and archrival Trinity Valley School http://www.trinityvalleyschool.org are VERY close, VERY good and VERY highly thought of.

I went to public schools and private schools and ended up graduating from FW Country Day. It sure made college MUCH, MUCH easier! In fact, I didn't appreciate FWCDS nearly as much until I went to college.

34 posted on 11/26/2002 9:43:13 PM PST by Concerned
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To: Concerned
I was just looking at the FW Country Day School website and came across some pretty fantastic info at http://www.fwcds.org/alumni/alumni_pals.shtml

It states that: "Twenty-nine percent of the [FWCDS] Class of 2002 earned recognition in The National Merit Programs. This class includes two of the state’s 28 Semi-finalists in the Presidential Scholars Program. The average SAT of this exceptional class is 1300. Twenty percent of the class earned one or more top scores of 800 in a section of the SAT or SAT II Achievement Tests or a top score in one or more sections of the PSAT, totaling 27 perfect scores."

WOW!!! I'm impressed!

35 posted on 11/26/2002 10:28:05 PM PST by Concerned
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To: MeeknMing
If I had to move tomorrow, what I have found so far leads me to the west-southwestern part of Plano, north Carrollton area, I suppose

That's pretty a high roller area, for the most part. Some more affordable housing, but still in nice neighborhoods can be found in both the Plano and the Carrollton-Farmers Branch districts. Try to stay out of Dallas County, which puts you in the more northern reachs of Carrollton, and probably into Lewisville-Colony school district. Plano ISD has it's good and it's bad points. They have a strange high school/senior high school setup. 9-10 are high school, with 11-12 being Senior High School. That too has it's advantages and disadvantages. Several 2-3 high schools feed each Senior High School. I think the main reason they did it was to have a large group of older boys to pick a football team from, but it has some academic advantages too. It means that the Sr. Highs can offer a broader range of courses, including not only those for "brains" but also more for those not going to college, or not needing higher math and science courses, although they have those in abundence. The downside is that it's a very cliqish environment and one with lots of competition for it's own sake, as opposed to productive competition. My wife is a teacher educator and we moved away from their the year before our oldest would have gone into high school, so I guess that gives you her overall opinion of the Plano ISD. At first she, the daughter, thought she'd been cheated, as the district we moved into was not nearly as highly rated academcially. Now, after 4 years of college, 3 of law school, one of Americorps, plus 1 1/2 years working, she thinks we did the right thing.

The advice to find a smaller town away from the main metro area was a good, but it's practicallity depends on where one is going to have to work. Commuting from way out is no fun, and it takes up time you should be spending with your kids, I know because while I started commuting from nearly Oklahoma to McKinney (county seat of the county to the northeast of Dallas) 30-35 miles, I ended up commuting into Dallas (barely) 55 miles one way, with several years commuting in between to Plano were I'd started, about a mile from our former house. If you need to be in the Plano area, the east side of town seems to be more low key and still offers many nice, if somewhat less ostentatious, neighborhoods, with a nice park and both high schools and a Sr. high on that side. If one were working in the Plano area, I'd recommend McKinney, Frisco or at least Allen for a place to live. Frisco is just north of western Plano, while Allen is north of eastern Plano, with McKinney being north of Allen. Celina, well north of Frisco and west of McKinney is fairly well thought of for a far suburban/semi-rural district. Can't help you with Churchs, in part because you don't indicate what denomination or "flavor" of church you are interested in. Plenty of them in the area though. From the big Baptist ones, to smaller evangellical varieties as well as Catholic, both main stripes of Lutheran, Methodist, Episcopal, etc, etc. Even some synagoges, all three major types, and a very few mosques. I don't even know where any of the later are in that general quadrent of greater Dallas, but I do know where a couple of Synagoges(sic) are. I think there are a few Hindu temples in the general vicinity, one of them being in Carrollton, IIRC.

36 posted on 11/26/2002 10:29:13 PM PST by El Gato
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To: MissAmericanPie
Plano has more suicides of teens than any where else in the nation

That was in the 80's, and has now been surpassed by another suburb. Plano does have the stigma of the most teenage heroin overdoses in the 90's, though.

37 posted on 11/26/2002 10:38:09 PM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: Concerned
The South West side of Tarrant County (Fort Worth) is a great place to live---and DRIVE in

I'll second that motion. My daughter now lives in SW Fort Worth, and she and her fiancee both love it. They call Forth Worth,"Austin for grown ups", with it's more laid back, but not party til you drop, atmosphere. Even though she works in downtown FW, she doesn't find the commute to be particularly gruesom, at least not at what seems to me like O_Dark_Thirty, but is really near the very begining of "Rush hour", such as it is in Cowtown. (That's a term of endearment BTW, not derision) I suspect the first poster meant "due south" Fort Worth, which is definitely not a good area, but it's not overly large, stay between SW and WNW from downtown, avoiding the first mile or two away from downtown,and it's a pretty nice area, as are the suburban/ex-urban towns in that general vicinity, including due those nearly due south of downtown but outside and separted from Ft.Worth itself.

38 posted on 11/26/2002 10:42:08 PM PST by El Gato
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To: MeeknMing
I can highly recommend two schools that have already been mentioned here:
Trinity Christian Academy, and
Prestonwood Christian Academy http://www.prestonwoodchristian.org/
39 posted on 11/26/2002 10:51:14 PM PST by LurkerNoMore!
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To: MeeknMing
I would recommend the "Mid-cities" area of Hurst, Colleyville, Grapevine, North Richland Hills, Watauga, Keller, Southlake. Nice homes, reasonably affordable, centrally located between Dallas and Fort Worth, with MANY good churches. As for churches with schools, I'm perhaps a little biased but Glenview Baptist Church is a great place to worship, has a good Christian school, and has an EXCELLENT childrens and youth ministry.
40 posted on 11/27/2002 6:02:53 AM PST by VRWCmember
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