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Groups Protest Victoria's Secret Show
Yahoo Entertainment News and AP ^ | 11/19/02 | David Bauder

Posted on 11/19/2002 3:13:35 PM PST by diotima

Groups Protest Victoria's Secret Show

By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - Two women's groups and a media watchdog organization on Tuesday asked CBS not to air the Victoria's Secret fashion show, calling it a "soft-core porn infomercial."

CBS said it was moving ahead with the broadcast of supermodels in lingerie on Wednesday night.

Concerned Women for America, the National Organization for Women (news - web sites) and the Parents Television Council were among several groups protesting the televised fashion show, which was taped in New York City last week.

ABC aired it last November, prompting an investigation by the Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites), which ruled it did not violate decency standards.

Along with the airing of near-nudity, the groups said the show degrades women.

"What purpose does the special serve except to overly sexualize women and use this to bolster the networks' demographics for young men?" they asked in a joint letter to CBS President Leslie Moonves.

Melissa Cardwell, research director for the Parents Television Council, said she had hoped that the hundreds of protests about last year's special would have dissuaded broadcasters from showing it again.

"Despite what the PTC says, this is not pornography," CBS spokesman Chris Ender said. "It's a one-hour fashion show mixed with musical performances and comedy segments.

"Does it push the envelope? Sure. But everyone knows what the Victoria's Secret fashion show is," he said. "With the advance publicity and the content advisory, every viewer will be armed with information to make their own choice."

CBS is giving the show a TV-14 rating, an indication that the material may be unsuitable for children age 14 and under.

The show has bounced around the CBS schedule. It was originally scheduled to air at 10 p.m. EDT but, worried about competing against ABC's two-hour finale of "The Bachelor," CBS moved it to 8 p.m.

Then, it was moved again — to 9 p.m. Ender said that upon reflection, CBS decided it wasn't best to air the show at 8 p.m. in what used to be considered the family viewing hour.

A "small number" of CBS affiliates aren't airing the show in prime-time, but Ender wouldn't name them. Two are in Idaho: KBCI-TV of Boise and KIDK-TV of Idaho Falls, both owned by Fisher Broadcasting, Inc.

"I don't believe it meets the standards of our communities in the time period offered," said Jeffrey Anderson, Fisher's general manager. "It's a family viewing hour."

Instead, the stations will air the show after midnight on the weekend.

ABC occasionally blurred the picture last year when particularly sheer lingerie was featured. CBS said it expects that not to be a problem this year, indicating the underwear is not as revealing.

The Parents Television Council, angered by the FCC (news - web sites)'s ruling on last year's show, said it intends to step up pressure on federal regulators if this year's edition is similar.

Also, CBS said it had edited out a demonstration by animal rights activists at last week's taping. Four protesters stormed the stage with signs that read "Gisele: Fur Scum," when model Gisele Bundchen — who has a modeling contract with a leading fur company — walked the runway.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cbs; victoriassecret
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To: diotima
What's qwrong with those chicks' legs? Why do they place their feet in an 'X' pattern when they walk?
21 posted on 11/19/2002 3:25:01 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: diotima
Hey, Dio! Why did you ping me? LOL!

I've got my own secret. I couldn't fit into one of Victoria's spaghetties with ten quarts of olive oil all over me!

22 posted on 11/19/2002 3:25:43 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: diotima
"Does it push the envelope? Sure. But everyone knows what the Victoria's Secret fashion show is,"

Yeah. Soft-core porn.

23 posted on 11/19/2002 3:26:24 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Paul Atreides
ellen degenerate has drowned....she was found face down in rikki lake.
24 posted on 11/19/2002 3:27:31 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: evad
How disgusting...

I don't want to make a snap judgement but I will probably agree with you after I watch it. I'll have to see if we have a working TV for tomorrow night.

For years my wife was on their catalogue mailing list, twice. I always took the second catalogue to work. In addition to enjoying the models everyone got a laugh out of the wild stuff the company had for sale.

25 posted on 11/19/2002 3:27:38 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: diotima
But, aren't the models just doing what they want with their own bodies? If a woman chooses to let a man look at her body, what right is it of NOW's? NOW would have every woman, except the ugly ones, wearing burkas.

So much for pro-choice.

26 posted on 11/19/2002 3:28:39 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: IronJack
Give the man a cigar.
27 posted on 11/19/2002 3:29:16 PM PST by diotima
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To: Revolting cat!
Buttocks rotation?
28 posted on 11/19/2002 3:30:30 PM PST by Jason Kauppinen
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To: diotima
Where's my Geritol?
29 posted on 11/19/2002 3:30:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Paul Atreides
They are doing what the want with their bodies. I don't begrudge them that. The issue is, should this be on Network TV at 9pm across the country AND advertised on television programs that have a pre-teen/teenage demographic?
30 posted on 11/19/2002 3:32:09 PM PST by diotima
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To: Paul Atreides
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of NOW.
31 posted on 11/19/2002 3:33:21 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
It is not soft core porn. It is serious shopping.

And yes, I get the catalogues everywhere, so I never go far without having one to leaf through.

32 posted on 11/19/2002 3:33:28 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: diotima
Melissa Cardwell, research director for the Parents Television Council, said she had hoped that the hundreds of protests about last year's special would have dissuaded broadcasters from showing it again.

Hmm, hundreds of protests versus tens of millions of viewers. I bet it took them nearly three tenths of a second to make that call.

33 posted on 11/19/2002 3:33:32 PM PST by ThinkDifferent
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To: diotima
(male)Protester standing outside the show:
I'M SHOCKED, SHOCKED AT WHAT IS GOING ON INSIDE THIS THEATER!

(Man walks up to protester) your tickets sir

34 posted on 11/19/2002 3:34:03 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Seriously, their stuff is cheap crap. (their product not their pictures.) I'm sure you get a lot of use form their catlogs. ;^)
35 posted on 11/19/2002 3:34:40 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Give the man a cigar.

I don't think IronJack is into any of that kinky clinton stuff....

36 posted on 11/19/2002 3:35:17 PM PST by steve-b
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To: diotima
I'm way too busy to waste my time on watching this garbage. Then again, that goes for most of what is on television. Let the sheep commence viewing (makes me think of the scene in Animal Farm where the pigs realize that the "box of images" distracts the simpler animals).

Four legs good....two legs better!!!!

37 posted on 11/19/2002 3:35:58 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: diotima
I've long wondered what Victoria's Secret was... and worried that it was she was really a man.
38 posted on 11/19/2002 3:35:59 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: diotima
But its good-looking cheap crap. The Empress Palpatine always gets some clothes and other stuff from it, and enjoys it for as long as it lasts.
39 posted on 11/19/2002 3:36:17 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: diotima
The issue is, should this be on Network TV at 9pm across the country AND advertised on television programs that have a pre-teen/teenage demographic?

What is wrong with a show that has attractive women wearing skimpy clothes? Sex and sexual attraction are natural and normal. Pre-teen and teenage people know this fact; I certainly did when I was younger. Whether it's Victorias Secret or the Sears catalog bra section; kids will see and gawk. If people have a problem with this; watch something else.

40 posted on 11/19/2002 3:41:00 PM PST by Hodar
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