Posted on 11/18/2002 5:07:02 PM PST by MadIvan
was effectively a war criminal who sanctioned the extermination of Germany's civilian population through indiscriminate bombing of towns and cities, an article in the country's biggest-circulation newspaper claimed yesterday.
You have some bloody nerve, Fritz. Perhaps we should ask the Jews what they think of you getting all huffy like this? - Ivan
In an unprecedented attack on Allied conduct during the Second World War, the tabloid Bild has called for recognition to be given to the suffering inflicted on the German population during the strategic air campaign of 1940-45.
The suffering of the population in London is far more relevant. After all, the citizens of London didn't vote in Hitler. Same goes for Jewish civilians in the occupied countries the Germans brutally slaughtered - Ivan
The newspaper's campaign, provoked by a new German history of the bomber offensive, breaks six decades of virtual silence on the subject, and is being seen as the latest manifestation of a belief among Germans that they too were victims of the war - albeit a war started by their country.
The newspaper is serialising Der Brand (The Fire: Germany Under Bombardment 1940-45) by the historian Jorg Friedrich, which claims to be the most authoritative account of the bombing campaign so far.
Mr Friedrich claims the British government set out at the start of the Second World War to destroy as many German cities and kill as many of their inhabitants as possible. Civilian deaths were not collateral damage, he says, but rather the object of the exercise. He argues that Churchill had favoured a strategy of attacking the civilian population centres from the air some 20 years before Hitler ordered such raids.
Britain's war leader is quoted during the First World War as saying: "Perhaps the next time round the way to do it will be to kill women, children and the civilian population."
Friedrich goes on to quote Churchill defending the morality of bombing: "Now everyone's at it. It's simply a question of fashion - similar to that of whether short or long dresses are in."
Der Brand is far removed from the dry style of most German histories, and is filled with emotive accounts of the horrors of bombing, but carries few references to the man who brought retribution on Germany, Adolf Hitler.
Friedrich argues that the Allied policy of seeking to break German morale through bombing proved mistaken, the attacks merely serving to weld together the German population.
The debate is certain to anger those in Britain who see the strategic air campaign as a necessary evil.
The British, led by Sir Arthur Harris, C-in-C Bomber Command, were the leading proponents of "night area bombing", involving the systematic destruction of German industrial capacity and housing. The policy resulted in the laying to waste of city after city, including Hamburg, Cologne and Dresden, and the deaths of some 635,000 Germans.
The policy was to some extent forced on the RAF by the failure of daylight operations against pinpoint targets early in the war. It also reflected the fact that, for much of the conflict, bombing was the only method by which Britain could attack Germany.
German raids on Britain in the Blitz of 1940-41 were seen to have freed the British from the obligation not to attack civilian centres.
The serialisation of the book will furnish the far-Right in Germany with arguments to back its revisionist claims. It is also likely to overshadow recent reconciliation attempts between Britain and Germany over the bombing of Dresden in February 1945 in which tens of thousands died.
In a symbolic sign of friendship, British businesses have paid into a fund to reconstruct the Frauenkirche or Church of Our Lady which was destroyed in the raid and is set to be reopened in 2006.
Yesterday Antony Beevor, the British historian and author of the bestselling Berlin: The Downfall, 1945, criticised the German claim that Britain's war of attrition was unnecessarily brutal. "The trouble is this argument is removed from the context that they were the ones who invented terror bombing," he said, referring to German attacks on Coventry, Rotterdam and Warsaw.
"They literally obliterated whole cities and that certainly preceded what the British did," he said. "What we did was more terrifying and appalling, but it was a natural progression in this war.
"One can certainly debate the whole morality of bombing, but for Germans to say Churchill was a war criminal is pushing it a bit," he said.
Friedrich, 58, said his two years of research prompted him to change his views radically on the Allied bombing.
"Previously it appeared to me to be a just answer to the crimes of the Third Reich, but I've since changed my mind," he said. "Until the Second World War there was a common consensus that the massacre of civilian populations was illegal."
For the past year Germans on both the Left and Right have been locked in a new and intense debate about the war and their role as its victims as well as perpetrators. The debate was sparked by Gunther Grass, the Nobel prize winner, in a novel fictionalising the wartime account of a passenger ship torpedoed by the Soviet navy killing thousands of Germans on board.
"They literally obliterated whole cities and that certainly preceded what the British did," he said. "What we did was more terrifying and appalling, but it was a natural progression in this war.
"One can certainly debate the whole morality of bombing, but for Germans to say Churchill was a war criminal is pushing it a bit," he said.
I spoke to Antony not long ago, jolly nice chap, a master of tactful understatement. One of his Russian translators is a personal friend of mine too.
As for the Germans, what do you expect from a bunch of whingeing bratwurst guzzling lefties. I paraphrase: "We aren't to blame, it was all our elected leader's fault. Your bombing campaign was far worse than ours, even if we did start it!"
Sorry, I don't have even an ounce of pity for them. The Germans are turning out to be almost as dispicable people as the Arab fundamentalists. I'm willing to bet when we get into Iraq, we find an awful lot of german equipment in Saddams labs.
No mandate that you follow the family business. No honorary titles for families (knights, earls, dukes...). No need to defend the actions of ancestors/relatives living in Europe in WWII.
Please take your "progressive" claptrap and shove it where the sun don't shine. You don't like my views, too bad. This is still a free country and no thanks to the master race.
We could have even had a few launched our way from Cuba, after all, until someone touches the hot stove, someone is always going to want try it.
My next door neighbor growing up had the blue numbers on his arm. He and his brother were the only members of his very large extended family who did not wind up as lampshades, soap, or calcined ashes.
My parents have a good friend who lost his wife and three children in the Blitz. Not only indiscriminate bombing, but indiscriminate bombing with delayed action bombs to kill as many rescue workers as possible.
It's insane for the Krauts to whine about getting a taste of what they had already done to the Jews and the British.
The Germans deserved whatever Mr. Churchill and "Bomber" Harris could throw at them. Many times over. It seems that every 50 years or so the Germans go stark, raving mad. Looks like they're at it again.
There is no excuse that the people of Germany and Japan haven't taken the opportunity to learn about the horrors of their homeland before taking grievances to American actions.
Really, what is up with Europeans? (English excepted, naturally)
We are WAY beyond our current abilities! Doc
The clowns in Germany are ruining the EU economy while spending their time rewriting history.
If anything, the Germans should complain about that proto-fascist Napoleon Bonaparte.
Careful. There are more Americans of German ancestry than any other ethnicity. Remember, as a Jewish writer once wrote, "Germans make the best Americans, but the worst Germans."
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