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L. Neil Smith was the Arizona Libertarian Party's presidential candidate in 2000. Smith ran against Harry Browne in the primary, and the Arizona LP refused to go with the national party's endorsement of Browne.
1 posted on 11/17/2002 5:08:06 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
I have libertarian sympathies, to say the least, but Smith is a bit hyperbolic here.
2 posted on 11/17/2002 5:14:55 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: Commie Basher
Senator Cantwell (D-WA) , Senator Johnson (D-SD) and many other tax and spend socialists owe their narrow elections to Libertarian candidates. I sure hope the Libertarians enjoyed the Senate run by Tommy Daschle, for they caused it.
3 posted on 11/17/2002 5:20:12 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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I first heard about loserterians when their only talking point was that government doesn't work. Problem with this proposition is that government works and works good. Problem with this fact is that it works good for those who own it. No chance that loserterians will ever come close to making the government the property of the electorate ever again.
4 posted on 11/17/2002 5:21:36 PM PST by RWG
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I thought the libertarians were stealing votes from the democrats.
5 posted on 11/17/2002 5:25:38 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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I wouldn't characterize the losertarians as 'masturbatory' as much as I would 'politically transgendered' or 'nationalistically neutered'. They're not only enemies of the GOP, but of America in general. Giving us back our Constitution is a cause that all of us should embrace, but the pacifism is too far out of touch with current world events. If the US would follow the advice of the LP, we'd be screwed, big time.
6 posted on 11/17/2002 5:40:10 PM PST by 11B3
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And then he wonders why Medved calls their efforst "masturbatory." In this whole article he managed to say --- nothing.

But, if I say that they are against everything and are not for anything, the libertarians will become indignant and offended.

9 posted on 11/17/2002 5:57:56 PM PST by TopQuark
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The best is the enemy of the good. That is, unfulfillable demands make positive, realistic goals harder to achieve. Throw open the doors to drugs, porn, prostitution, and abortion, and the result won't be a society that can maintain its freedom for very long.
10 posted on 11/17/2002 6:12:31 PM PST by x
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"Dornan was bitterly complaining that he'd lost the election because there was a Libertarian Party candidate running against him, depriving him of votes"

Dornan lost because of massive voter fraud--and massive illegal-immigrant voting.

As Smith--and Dornan must certainly know.

--Boris

11 posted on 11/17/2002 6:17:24 PM PST by boris
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what hurts is when Losertarians vote for dead people or somebody (in this past election) who had already dropped out of the race, rather than help a good Republican like Thune against a DemoncRAT of the likes of Johnson.
12 posted on 11/17/2002 6:19:22 PM PST by Steven W.
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This is what I've never gotten about some of the Kool-Aid Republicans here (I'm a Republican myself). Why do they think Libertarian votes are somehow rightfully GOP votes that somehow have been hijacked? Libertarians BY DEFINITION are not Republicans. Libertarian voters BY DEFINITION are not Republican voters.
13 posted on 11/17/2002 6:20:01 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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Let me add on to my last comment on Kool-Aid Republicans, the article is a bunch of crap.
15 posted on 11/17/2002 6:21:13 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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Well, just maybe, Republicans might have gotten some of these things done....except for the commie media and something called the DemocRat party, both huge roadblocks. It has been a struggle just to combat the massive voter fraud by the Rats. I haven't heard anything from a libertarian yet that makes much sense. Its like talking to a liberal.
17 posted on 11/17/2002 6:29:23 PM PST by TheLion
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Can we talk? (Doing my best Joan Rivers imitation here.)

I think the Libertarians are silly. That out of the way, lemme say than even sillier than the Libertarians is the constipated notion of a two party system where life long stalinists like Hillary Clinton are welcome with open arms into one of the parties (doesn't matter which, really,) allowing all of us to pretend that she's a "Democrat" (or maybe "a Republican") and not a CPUSA candidate. The Libertarians will continue to be the spoilers until political parties in the United States stand for something instead of, to use a cliche, falling for anything. B!tch all you want about it, fact of life and the future elections.

As for the South Dakota fiasco two weeks ago, a FReeper on the scene (SoDak?) informed us afterwards that the Pubbie candidate lost not because of the Libertarian vote. but because 20,000 Republican voters, too clever by half, voted for the RAT, calculating that more free moolah will flow their way from DC if they have two RATS in a RAT controlled US Senate!

20 posted on 11/17/2002 6:33:05 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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Casting liberatarians as spoilers by republicans is childish and contrary commonsense...

Its ridiculous and stupid in fact...

If a republican cant sway a libertarian, then it is the republican who failed...

And Walmart is at fault for sending KMart into bankruptcy?

21 posted on 11/17/2002 6:33:06 PM PST by antaresequity
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3rd parties can't win( don't mean to side with the bots on this but its true) libertarians should focus their efforts on gaining control of the Republican party.
25 posted on 11/17/2002 6:51:20 PM PST by weikel
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"The Republican Party was born for no other purpose than to oppress Americans"

uh, NOPE. The Repubbie party was founded in 1854 to defend the Constitution against the southern "slavocrats" (Democrats) who disliked the Constitution and wished to return to the failed Articles of Confederation. Click here for Repub history. Unfortunately, they have strayed from that original pursuit even allowing disruptors like Jim Leach (R-IA...seeks to abolish the electoral college) into their ranks.

- Jeff B., registered "No Party"

28 posted on 11/17/2002 7:07:21 PM PST by RFP
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Libertarians are enemies of AMERICA...they elect democrats, and they whine like little girls when someone disagrees with them (Medved).
30 posted on 11/17/2002 7:08:57 PM PST by Moby Grape
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L. Neil Smith says:   "Michael Medved...began calling those who choose to live by the Zero Aggression Principle 'Losertarians'."

I wonder why...

Let's take a look at some aspects of what society could devolve into should we actually live 100% in accord the "Zero Aggression Principle".

  1. Twisting the heads off little kittens -- protected
  2. Marry your own daughter -- protected
  3. Masturbating in public -- protected
  4. Child pornography -- protected
  5. Meth for sale at your 7-11 -- protected
  6. Explosives factory built next to your home -- protected
  7. Public defecation -- protected
  8. Playing baseball with live gerbils -- protected
  9. Fisting your lover on a park bench -- protected
  10. Walking naked on the streets -- protected
--Boot Hill
33 posted on 11/17/2002 7:42:16 PM PST by Boot Hill
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As a Libertarian, I am embarrased by Mr Smith's atitude toward defending our Nation. Although there have been many inaproriate uses of the military, attacking the organizations that are trying to kill us is the kind of thing the military is for.
35 posted on 11/17/2002 8:00:44 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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I've never heard of Mr. Smith...but if he's a libertarian, it's no wonder he writes science-fiction since that's the only medium in which they'll ever win anything!

VOTE LIBERTARIAN - POT AND PROSTITUTES FOR ALL!
37 posted on 11/17/2002 10:03:31 PM PST by Fledermaus
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