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Video shows Ujaama talking about jihad
The Seattle Times ^ | Nov. 13, 2002 | Ray Rivera

Posted on 11/13/2002 5:43:03 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt

Update on the "Jehad is Crap" operation -- it turns out one of the people on the video tapes was Ujaama. This story keeps getting more interesting.


The Seattle Times

Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - 01:19 p.m. Pacific

Video shows Ujaama talking about jihad

By Ray Rivera
Seattle Times staff reporter


James Ujaama

A newly released videotape shows James Ujaama, a Seattle man accused of conspiring to help al-Qaida, sitting side-by-side with suspected al-Qaida recruiter Abu Hamza al-Masri and participating in a discussion of jihad.

Ujaama's supporters have downplayed his connections to radical Islam. But the video, shot in a London mosque sometime before the Sept. 11 attacks and after 1999, shows Ujaama, with a thick beard and a reddish brown cap, next to the radical London cleric, who is wanted in Yemen on terrorism charges.

"Sheik Osama bin Laden was framed and forced in isolation, having to leave his own land, his family, and then used as a scapegoat to arrest many Muslims," Ujaama told about 50 men inside London's Finsbury Park mosque.

A former community activist here, Ujaama moved to London and lived with his daughter and wife near the mosque, which under Abu Hamza's leadership has become a fertile recruiting ground for terrorists, according to federal authorities.

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Ujaama is accused by a Seattle grand jury of conspiring to start a jihad training camp in rural Oregon in 1999.

"I was in Afghanistan," Ujaama says on the video, the only known admission to date that he was in Taliban territory. Federal prosecutors have said in court that Ujaama has attended an al-Qaida training camp and on another occasion delivered computers to the Taliban, which was sheltering bin Laden.

But Ujaama's lawyers yesterday said he traveled into the troubled country to drop off laptops at an Afghan girls school.

Ujaama has been held without bail — isolated in a small cell 23 hours a day, with only weekly visitations from family. Yesterday, his lawyers again asked a federal judge for his release on bail but under house arrest, with a monitoring bracelet and no access to phones or computers.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Todd Greenberg argued that Ujaama remained a flight risk and posed a threat to the nation because of his close ties to terror suspect Abu Hamza.

FBI Special Agent Fred Humphries testified about seeing the Ujaama video.

On cross-examination, Ujaama's lawyer Peter Offenbecher asked the FBI agent if he thought Ujaama would pose a threat if he were released under the proposed restrictions, with a global-positioning satellite tracking his every move.

Humphries paused for a long moment, and said: "At this point, I don't think that would occur ... that he would pose any threat."

The testimony by Humphries came over the objections of prosecutors and likely hurts their effort to keep Ujaama in solitary confinement. Sources said federal prosecutors are pressuring Ujaama to provide testimony that would enable the Justice Department to indict Abu Hamza on terrorism charges.

U.S. District Judge Barbara J. Rothstein did not say yesterday when she would decide whether to allow bail for Ujaama.

The video was not played in court yesterday.

In another part of the video, Ujaama declares that Muslim leaders around the world have been framed and wrongly convicted by Christian and Jewish judges and juries. Among his examples were Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, the Muslim convert formerly known as H. Rap Brown who was convicted of killing a police officer in Georgia; Omar Abdel-Rahman, the blind sheik convicted in 1995 of conspiring to blow up various New York City landmarks; and Osama bin Laden.

At one point, Ujaama turns to Abu Hamza and adjusts the microphone for the cleric, who lost his hands while making a bomb in Bosnia, the FBI said.

The owner of the videotapes, who lives in England, said yesterday that the tape of Ujaama and Abu Hamza was taken in an upstairs room of the Finsbury mosque. He asked not to be identified.

He said he received the tapes about six months ago from Abu Hamza after telling him that he wanted to start a Web site similar to Abu Hamza's radical "Supporters of Shariah," which calls for violent overthrow of the West.

Until the video surfaced, evidence of any Ujaama trips to Afghanistan and his ties to Abu Hamza largely consisted of testimony of captured militants in Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay and from people who attended a Seattle mosque with Ujaama.

Defense attorneys had not seen the videotapes yesterday. But they were pleased with Special Agent Humphries' remarks.

"And after considerable thought, some soul searching, it is his opinion of Mr. Ujaama that he is not a threat to the community," said Offenbecher, Ujaama's lawyer.

Ujaama's trial is set for June 2.

Staff reporters Mike Carter and David Heath contributed to this report.

Ray Rivera: 206-464-2926 or rayrivera@seattletimes.com.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; hamza; islam; islamicviolence; islamist; jehad; jihad; jihadinamerica; supportersofshariah; talibanlist; terrorism; terrorist; ujaama; website
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Is it me, or doesn Ujaama look like a sleezy ambulance chaser?
21 posted on 11/13/2002 7:32:10 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: lelio
"This guy isn't anything more than a Jihad Entrepeneur that's out to make a quick buck.

Yep. We're not gonna pay price though.

22 posted on 11/13/2002 7:34:15 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: lelio
"Just to clarify: I'm not rushing to his defense either, but he's just a schmuck that saw dollar signs when he heard 'training camp' "

That's a no-no nowadays. Bozos get busted for this crap. Preferably into pieces...but he looks the type to sing like a bird and whine like a propeller if thrown in federal prison...he might be a good milker.

23 posted on 11/13/2002 7:40:11 PM PST by cake_crumb
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To: JohnathanRGalt; Grampa Dave; Clovis_Skeptic; ladyinred; veronica; Travis McGee; Shermy; harpseal; ..
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24 posted on 11/13/2002 7:40:23 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Humphries paused for a long moment, and said: "At this point, I don't think that would occur ... that he would pose any threat."

Obviously one of Clinton's moron hirelings. I hope they reassign that 'agent' to someplace where he can't do any more damage to national security, like maybe protective services for Clinton or Gore.

25 posted on 11/13/2002 7:48:46 PM PST by thatdewd
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To: JohnathanRGalt
"And after considerable thought, some soul searching, it is his opinion of Mr. Ujaama that he is not a threat to the community," said Offenbecher, Ujaama's lawyer.

You mean, Islamic terrorists aren't a threat to the community?

26 posted on 11/13/2002 10:22:57 PM PST by SeenTheLight
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To: ppaul
This is what would happen if a dozen armed bomb-laden kefiyah-wearing arab muslim terrorists in full battle dress and carrying the hezbolah flag charged the federal courthouse Monday morning at 0900 screaming "ALLAH AKBAR!"

1. The Times and PI editorial boards would praise it as a spontaneous diversity parade.
2. The federal marshalls and fbi would consult their ADL- provided 'diversity guideline handbooks', not wanting to offend.
3. KOMO, KIRO, and KING would scramble their SAT trucks to get the "activists" point of view. "What did the U.S. do to you to make you so mad?"
4. Ceasefire would start a fundraiser and demand to know which WAC show sold them the ARs.
5. Ron Sims and Larry Gossett would issue press releases stating they knew the gentlemen, but that they were really 'community activists', positive role models, and were targets of racially motivated hate mongering - probably due to some Christian extremists on the other side of the lake.
6. Goldberg's ADL would continue to remain silent, wondering how they could spin this into a CdA-Hayden Lake-Sandpoint-Noxon angle, ever thankful for the recent tour of the SEA fbi's new Seattle digs.
7. The JTTF/HRT/ATF's pagers wouldn't go off because that might distract them from finding some white guy with the wrong accessory combo on his new rifle.
8. Jeff Siddqui would issue another ludicrous statement from his fictional group denying a muslim connection.

SEATTLE WILL NEVER BE FREE OF MUSLIM TERRORIST SCUM as long as the current socialist, terror-supporting 'leaders' are in power.

27 posted on 11/14/2002 12:46:40 AM PST by Abar
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To: JohnathanRGalt
...London's Finsbury Park mosque.

This place is a tumor on Britain's nose.

28 posted on 11/14/2002 8:26:41 AM PST by facedown
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To: JohnathanRGalt
But Ujaama's lawyers yesterday said he traveled into the troubled country to drop off laptops at an Afghan girls school.

Uh, huh. Reminds me of that scene in Stripes. How does it go exactly? The troops, I think, have been arrested for busting up a strip club, and/or various other acts of mayhem, destruction and debauchery. Having been returned to the base in disgrace, and an explanation demanded, John Candy pipes up, "well, we were on our way to this Church bingo game..."

29 posted on 11/14/2002 11:40:02 AM PST by Stultis
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To: TexKat
Ujaama to remain in custody until trial .
30 posted on 11/14/2002 12:12:54 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Grampa Dave
You see this?
31 posted on 11/14/2002 12:19:46 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: aristeides; B Knotts; Grampa Dave; TexKat; Stultis; facedown; Abar; ppaul; SeenTheLight; ...
Ujaama to remain in custody until trial

It appears the videotapes had a lot to do with the decision:

... In her ruling, Rothstein noted Ujaama's alleged connections to Abu Hamza. She also emphasized newly revealed videotapes showing Ujaama and Abu Hamza sitting side by side at a forum held at his London mosque.

"Defendant Ujaama has pledged 'bayaat' (an oath of allegiance) to Abu Hamza," Rothstein wrote, "and is seen in a videotape seated next to Abu Hamza talking about how various terrorist leaders have been framed while Abu Hamza discussed jihad and the proper firing techniques for a rocket-propelled grenade."

Greenberg applauded the decision. "Obviously that was the decision we were advocating," he said.


32 posted on 11/14/2002 1:35:49 PM PST by JohnathanRGalt
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Isn't that term 'bayaat' also used for the oath of loyalty al Qaeda members take to bin Laden?
33 posted on 11/14/2002 1:44:03 PM PST by aristeides
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To: JohnathanRGalt
Bravo John. Thanks.
34 posted on 11/14/2002 1:47:41 PM PST by Shermy
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