Physical Evidence Points to Foul-Play in TWA Flight 800 Disaster

11/9/02 | John Fiorentino

[JohnFiorentino]

(Below are excerpts from a forthcoming story on TWA Flight 800. They are being released now in the interest of furthering the goal of re-opening the investigation into that air disaster)

Evidence I have recently uncovered would seem to indicate that the pellets referred to in the BNLabs report may be an indicator of foul play re: TWA800. (The pellets being referred to here were recovered from several victims of the crash at autopsy)

The general consensus among several experts I have contacted indicates the pellets are CMC's or Ceramic Matrix Composites. (most likely pizeoelectric ceramics) Boeing has already indicated to me that they are NOT from the aircraft.

I have investigated the possibility these pellets may have come from the engines of the 747. However, in conversations and research with Pratt & Whitney I have ruled this out. Although some CMC's are utilized on P&W later model engines they were not in use on the engine models which powered TWA Fl800.

Below you will find some information regarding these materials.

(Some sources have been witheld)

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Piezoelectric materials generate an electrical voltage when their surfaces are stretched or compressed as a result of vibration.

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Over time, the company began to investigate other applications for its bone conduction technology. "In the early 70s, we started to work with General Dynamics on the Stinger Missile System,"

Harold Holsopple, President, Sensory Devices, Inc.,

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I apologize for not responding earlier. ........ from your description, it appears that the material could be some type of titanate-zirconate. Ca and Ba are common elements found in titanates. These are mostly piezoelectric ceramic materials.

My experience is mostly in mechanical properties of structural type ceramics. These appear to be electronic ceramics.

(Source witheld)

In conclusion, it would appear that the NTSB's stated "mechanical failure" scenario is the LEAST likely among the three categories initially considered -- Bomb, Missile, Mechanical failure.

Based on the foregoing I believe NTSB and FBI should be compelled to re-open their investigations.

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Copyright 2002, John E. Fiorentino -- All rights reserved

[timestax]

Good luck...you will NEVER get FBI to reopen the case. Too many lies!

[stands2reason]

bttt

[timestax]

How about the 25 knot speedboat that Mr. James Kallstrom "morphed" into a "helicopter"! Like, um, why did he do that?

[TXnMA]

Piezoelectric ceramics could be used in the igniter/triggering mechanism for a shoulder-fired missile -- but I have no info that such an actual application exists.

Titanate-zirconates used as piezolectric sensors/generators ase pure ceramics (oxides -- as indicated by the '-ate' suffix). They most certainly are not ceramic metal composites.

Don't know how this impacts your theory -- unless you were were trying to make the logic leap that the presence of ceramic/metal composites indicates the presence of a piezoelectrically fired or fuzed missile. In that case, your theory falls apart. Ceramic/metal composites and piezoelectric ceramics are totally different animals.

[ctnoell]

And all of those eyewitness accounts "of seeing flaming missile streaking upward toward the aircraft prior to explosion" were quickly swept under the rug. Al-Qaeda? Not that far-fetched. I had always wondered with all of those Stinger missiles in Afghan hands and the break-away Soviet republics selling former Soviet submarines to Iran around that same time period. I hate to sound like Barbra Streisand, but maybe we have a cover-up? I wouldn't put it past Clinton to do exactly that, with the '96 election looming only months after the crash.

[thatdewd]

Does anybody remember the news story about the young palestinian kid that told his teacher not to fly that month because he heard the grownups at the mosque saying a plane would crash then?. I later heard another story say it was an urban legend, but a while back I read a followup story (which I thought I bookmarked, but didnt) that said it wasn't and the case was still open. Anybody have any links on that? (or did the second reporter need tinfoil?)

[thatdewd]

Note to self: NEVERMIND, I got my flights mixed up.

[JohnFiorentino]

I indicate in the article these are EXCERPTS. There will be a more forthcoming. I assure you, I have made no "leaps in logic." Why not wait for the full story?

[TXnMA]

ase = are

[JohnFiorentino]

BTW Where do you see the term "ceramic-metal" composites in my article?

[Demidog]

Have you cross-referenced your findings with Janes? Are there any American military missles used in the AEGIS system which use CMC's?

[fabian]

I think Clinton knew it was a missile but didn't have the leadership that Bush has to fight a war.

[WFTR]

I think Clinton knew it was a missile but didn't have the leadership that Bush has to fight a war.

I don't know what Clinton knew or even have a strong opinion about how the plane crashed. However, I'm certain that Clinton would have wanted to avoid the finding of a missile. The people had been lulled into forgetting that the first job of government is to protect us from foreign enemies, and Clinton knew that if they remembered, they'd turn him out of office.

WFTR
Bill

[MatthewViti]

Terrorists always loved to target TWA...

http://www.terrorismvictims.org/terrorists/twa-847-hijacking.html

[SoCar]

Of course it was foul play.

[Bogie]

Clinton's pals were making too much money on "The New Economy."

[timestax]

bump $$$$$$

[Pistias]

I hate to sound like Barbra Streisand, but maybe we have a cover-up? I wouldn't put it past Clinton to do exactly that, with the '96 election looming only months after the crash.

Which do you think is the more likely scenario:

a)Clinton is a democrat; thus, military action is antithetical to much of his support structure, and thus he (or an agent) suppresses evidence of military action against a civilian target...

b)Someone or something on that flight needed blowing up, bad....

c)f*ck-up from a military source.

[glock rocks]

maybe the copilot pushed the rudder controls too hard and the center tank exploded. yah, that's it.

you doubting thomases just need to watch the cia cartoon again. the koolaid is black cherry. mmmmmm.