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Windows Cheaper Than Linux, Says Microsoft
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| 5 November, 2002
| Rob Jones
Posted on 11/07/2002 5:13:25 AM PST by ShadowAce
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To: Bush2000
Can't do XP; Boss says its not in the budget.
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posted on
11/07/2002 11:15:35 AM PST
by
winner45
To: B Knotts
ditto/bump that
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posted on
11/07/2002 11:16:10 AM PST
by
winner45
To: Bush2000
It suggests that this article didn't name any.Thus far, NO article has named any. You have some figures? Bring 'em on!
To: Bush2000
Why would you need to dedicate headcount when a simple compliance app like this (one of many available) will do it for you? Keep trying.Okay, then dedicate that HC to tweak registries and deal with new bugs exposed by the Key Manager.. same diff.
To: TechJunkYard
Are you honestly suggesting that IT wouldn't have to dedicate headcount to dealing with Linux app bugs?
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posted on
11/07/2002 11:56:28 AM PST
by
Bush2000
To: winner45
Can't do XP; Boss says its not in the budget.
Why not move to Linux and WINE. If Linux proponents want to put their money where their mouths are, the TCO should (according to them) be lower.
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posted on
11/07/2002 11:58:32 AM PST
by
Bush2000
To: Bush2000
Where do I suggest that?
To: Havoc
So can you build from scratch:
a microwave
a car
a stereo
a chair
a refrigerator
and a desk
?
Do you even know how they all work (chairs and desks are pretty obvious you can skip those)? Or do you just push a button followed by another button and expect the thing to work?
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:16:36 PM PST
by
discostu
To: rdb3
Then you should unplug your refrigerator until you can give us a complete rundown on how a freon system works and how to repair it.
Something the Linux crowd refuses to understand is that for most people computers are appliances, and most people have no freaking clue how the appliances in their life work, and they don't want to. While it might "behoove" people to know these things very few actually do.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:19:43 PM PST
by
discostu
To: discostu
.. for most people computers are appliances, and most people have no freaking clue...Yeah, but a Windows Admin employed in a support position certainly should.
To: TechJunkYard
Where do I suggest that?
"Okay, then dedicate that HC to tweak registries and deal with new bugs exposed by the Key Manager.. same diff."
This implies that you think that Windows HC is needed over and above what is necessary to support apps. Which is bogus.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:24:46 PM PST
by
Bush2000
To: TechJunkYard
Yeah, but a Windows Admin employed in a support position certainly should.
Why should any admin have to know the internal design of code for a particular tool? That's simply a ridiculous requirement.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:26:41 PM PST
by
Bush2000
To: discostu
While it might "behoove" people to know these things very few actually do.This sounds like a personal problem to me.
Next.
No mercy.
Coming soon: Tha SYNDICATE.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:27:38 PM PST
by
rdb3
To: TechJunkYard
They should know how to fix common problems, oddly enough this does not necessarily entail knowing how it works. How many facilities managers do you know that actually know how the alarm system works? They can turn it on and off, reset it when it starts getting wonky, but can they actually tell you what kind of sensors it uses and how they interface?
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:33:38 PM PST
by
discostu
To: rdb3
So how does your frig work? If you don't know you're not allowed to use it, sorry those are YOUR rules.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:34:20 PM PST
by
discostu
To: Bush2000
This implies that you think that Windows HC is needed over and above what is necessary to support apps. Which is bogus. That implies that you think that I think that Windows HC can't handle both tasks. Which is insulting. You're grasping at straws, trying to incite something that isn't there. Stop putting words in my mouth that I don't say.
And go re-read my original post where I observe that you would need some HC to perform Linux self-support.
To: TechJunkYard
That implies that you think that I think that Windows HC can't handle both tasks.
You're the one who made the distinction. The licensing compliance app is not unlike any other Windows app. IT wouldn't be adversely impacted.
Which is insulting.
Here's a tissue, Tito.
You're grasping at straws, trying to incite something that isn't there. Stop putting words in my mouth that I don't say.
Your argument is that licensing adds significant overhead to IT. Which is simply false.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:39:46 PM PST
by
Bush2000
To: Bush2000
Why should any admin have to know the internal design of code for a particular tool?That's not necessary. But (s)he ought to know what's running on a particular server, and how to check that it's running properly before having to call an 800 number. Otherwise, why is (s)he there?
To: Bush2000
Your argument is that licensing adds significant overhead to IT.It does. $$$$$$$$... not just headcount.
To: discostu
So how does your frig work? If you don't know you're not allowed to use it, sorry those are YOUR rules.Try reading comprehension. I said it would behoove the users to know. So what does the word "behoove" mean? It means "advantageous for."
I didn't set any "rules." That's a false argument.
No mercy.
Coming soon: Tha SYNDICATE.
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posted on
11/07/2002 12:44:36 PM PST
by
rdb3
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