[bonesmccoy]

The Democrat clean sweep in California politics needs to be addressed by Cal GOP and the national ticket.

Here's my armchair analysis of these events.

1. Election of 2004 Impact Gray Davis is running for President in 2004. George W. Bush must be making a calculation on the impact of this statewide election on the election of 2004. Davis will garner alot of support from California based tech firms, entertainment, and Clintonistas.

The Prez didn't show up in California in the final days of the gubernatorial campaign. Have they basically written off the state in 2004? I think so. This means California is probably not in the running to produce a serious Presidential candidate unless Gray Davis runs (which he will).

I observe that other than Gray Davis, there are no Democratic winners that are immediately obvious. The DNC appears to have thrown all of its effort behind McBride (which they lost) and Davis (which they nearly lost).

Look for the Rats to consolidate racial politics in the black and hispanic community.

[oc-flyfish]

Sad day here in the People's Republic of California.

[BibChr]

Looking at those numbers last night, I remarked to my wife:

One good earthquake, and we will find ourselves...

1. Owners of beach-front property, and
2. Residents of a solidly-Republican state!

Dan

[eureka!]

Thanks. Look at the GOP turnout compared to last time. Sheesh. $50 million in negative ads will do that, just as planned. Oh well, we know who filled the handbasket as this once great state heads to Hades....

Otherwise-Ping. Nice effort all. Can't say we didn't try...

[Faithfull]

I'm curious about the impact and percentage of the minority vote in the Davis won counties. I hope Republicans take a good look at the immigrant and minority vote and quit putting so much emphasis on it. Looks to me across the country that minorities didn't move over to the Republicans.Perhaps the money is best spent on those that either don't vote or the undecided.

[MAD-AS-HELL]

I reluctantly voted for the inept Simon, but here's the deal. With the state run by all democraps, there will be no way for the party to hide as Davis continues to screw up this state. He'll raise taxes and create new ones. As the state continues to slide into the pacific due to Democratic mishandling, the Republican party will surely have a great opportunity in 2006, assuming they aren't as inept at the Simon campaign was.

[rightwing2]

Davis is loosing by three points. I am predicting that he (Simon) loses by about five points. If he does, then this will be the biggest story of the election because it will mean that had Bush not abandoned this race, Simon could very conceivably have won this race. Of course, I hope I am wrong and Simon wins tonight!

Post #4 posted on 11/05/2002 11:38 PM EST by rightwing2 on other thread

Actual final vote tally:

Davis 47.4%
Simon 42.4%

Looks like my prediction last night at 11:38pm EST at post #4 turned out to be prophetic. Simon lost by precisely the five percentage points that I said he would just like Earley did for Governor in 2001 and I blame Bush and his advisors entirely for abandoning this very winnable race back in August. A couple more Bush appearances in the state could have given Simon a four point boost and given him a three point win over Davis. Plus, it would have spilled over into other CA statewide races which would have been a stunning GOP victory! I also called the Senate for the GOP at 9:40pm EST last night right after I heard about GOP leads/wins in Georgia and NH.

I think the President did an outstanding job everywhere else though and I think we have him to thank for retaking the US Senate. Perhaps, the GOP sacrifice in losing the governorship and Lieutenant Governorship of Virginia last year was not in vain after all because it seems that Bush really did lose his lesson (except in California) which is that he cannot afford to put himself "above politics" if he hopes to get his agenda passed through the Senate and get re-elected President.

[tallhappy]

OK. Election's over. Time to say it.

CA GOP is pathetic. They are incompetents.

Just a few years ago they won the State Assembly.

And couldn't even keep it together long enough to elect a speaker for a majority they had.

They've been going down hill fast from there.

[Grampa Dave]

Gentlemen, I want to thank of you for your brave and steady hard work in supporting Bill Simon.

Thanks to the others who supported Simon and helped to make great replies to your posts.

A pox on the psuedo conservatives who savaged Bill Simon 24/7 like they were getting paid for it. Gray Davis, the criminal thanks you for supporting him.

Now that the election is over, we will find out about more crimes the Davis Mafia has committed. We will find out that our state is debt beyond our worse nightmares. Davis and his fellow fascists will proceed to turn Kali into a Banana Fascist state without the benefits of a banana.

The map that Bones McCoy posted is good news to me re the lessening of the votes that Davis got 4 years ago in most of Kali..

[RedWing9]

It appears to me that the GOP is consistently losing the statewide offices because of voting in three counties.

Welcome to my world... I feel your pain... :o)

[Seruzawa]

Sad for Kalifornia. But good for the nearby States as businesses will continue to relocate in large numbers.

[LibertarianLiz]

It appears to me that the GOP is consistently losing the statewide offices because of voting in three counties.

Welcome to the world of the state of Washington. Up here, the Governor, and senators win by winning just three counties (King, Snohomish & Pierce). Demographics.

[SpinyNorman]

Wow!! This is one time that I can truly say that California is far worse off than my state of MA!!

[breakem]

Except at the local level in less urban areas, the republican party is dead in California. Weak or non-existent leadership. Also the demographics, immigration and increasing democratic power portend more of the same.

A corrupt disasterous democrat was just reelected to the top spot and swept others in with him. The ex-mayor of LA might have won, but he'd be a democrat in any other state.

It will take a miracle or ressurection to beat the democrats in the next Cal election.

[CounterCounterCulture]

More comments with statewide and key local race results...
CALIFORNIA STATE Election Discussion Thread

[Paleo Conservative]

Election of 2004 Impact Gray Davis is running for President in 2004.

Why? Davis is the Christi Todd Whitman of 2002. Davis got less than 50% of the vote statewide running for re-election in a year with low turnout in his state. He is down almost 11% of the vote from 1998.

Compare that with W. in Texas. In 1994 he won 54% to 46% against a very well known opponent (Ann Richards) who had lots of out of state friends especially in the entertainment and media industries. She often got lots of free national media usually in the form of cushy interviews on "The Late Show with David Letterman", "The Larry King Show", "The Today Show (Katie Kouric), "The Early Show" (Bryant Gumbel), etc. When W. ran for re-election in 1998 he got over 70% of the vote state wide and even carried the traditionally RAT areas of the state along the Rio Grande Valley and El Paso.

Davis gets little media outside of Califoria and adjacent states. The population of his own state dislikes him enough not to give him a majority vote to re-elect him. And this happened despite having enormous amount of money to bury his opponent. Considering his advantages in money and party registration Davis should have blown Simon out of the water.

[BurbankKarl]

I was listening to KGO last night...and they said the plan was Davis to run for President and Barbara Boxer to take the Governorship in his place. Lord, help us!

I feel Davis will seal his own fate with the growing budget deficit...it will be interesting to see what his answers are to the budget hole...and how much taxes go up.

With the GOP control of Congress, CA will receive even less support from Washington (for instance...LA County has been trying to get the Feds to bail out its county hospital system....and the Fed answer is to privatize parts of it, not a handout to reward their mis-management.) I think the Republicans will leave California to bury itself, and build their base back up from the pieces left over.

(and is their anything more sickening than the Sanchez sisters??? gag)

[grumpster-dumpster]

As a native Californian, although not currently living in my beloved state... I can only observe that while the rest of the Nation looks to President Bush for leadership and direction; The California GOP studies and worships Trent Lott methodologies.

[Saundra Duffy]

Bill Simon won in 40 of the 58 counties so actually Bill Simon won. Today, "Gay" Davis starts running for President and the dirty money will continue to flow. Lord have mercy on California.

[Saundra Duffy]

Where can I order the t-shirt?

[hattend]

Election of 2004 Impact Gray Davis is running for President in 2004. George W. Bush must be making a calculation on the impact of this statewide election on the election of 2004. Davis will garner alot of support from California based tech firms, entertainment, and Clintonistas.

You assume that California isn't going to have a fiscal meltdown in the next couple of years. If all of Davis' screw-ups over the last 4 years come home to roost, he won't be able to mount a serious campaign.

I'm disappointed that Simon lost but maybe there is a silver lining. He won't be blamed for the coming crash...Davis will be.