Posted on 10/28/2002 9:14:43 AM PST by spycatcher
"...[John Muhammad] Williamss unit was sent to Operation Desert Storm to clear mines and bulldoze holes in enemy lines. A few nights before the invasion of Iraq, Sergeant Berentson awoke in the early hours to find his tent, with 16 sleeping men inside, on fire. Someone had tossed in a thermite grenade. Berentson, who was fed up with Williamss insubordination, immediately suspected Williams and told the Armys Criminal Investigative Division. Berentson says he last saw Williams being led away in handcuffs. Williamss military records make no mention of the incident; indeed, they suggest Williams had a distinguished gulf-war stint. But Berentson always kept Williamss name and dog-tag number in his wallet. He says he was not surprised to see Williamss face on television..."
Back to the current attacks:
"...A witness outside the Fredericksburg, Va., Michaels craft store, scene of a shooting on Oct. 4, reported a dark-colored vehicle with New Jersey tags leaving the scene. A woman calling the tip line on Oct. 7 said she had spotted a black man crouching beneath the dashboard in a dark Chevy Caprice. The woman was struck by the intensity of the mans stare. The agent on the tip line brushed her off. Were looking for a white truck, she said.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...
And this isn't likely to change it given that you could deliver illegals giftwrapped to the INS and they still won't deport them and the fact that the PC gestapo will not allow reforms that will actually make a difference.
Instead, we must continue to search for the angry white men that are no doubt behind all the evil in this country and will be found if we just continue to look beyond the obvious. < /sarcasm >
I've come to the conclusion that the tip line is not much more than a public relations gimmick; its purpose is to allow the cops to say: "We're allowing the public to contribute."
It's similar to when government conducts a public meeting or a public hearing on an issue. The officials already know what they're going to do in 95% of the cases; but, by allowing public input [see "Environmental Impact Statement" - :>)], they fulfill the legal requirement for public involvement. In most cases, the officials consider such public input as being "something that's gotta be done", but they don't really endorse the practice - they merely give it lip service.
Even in this case, I saw the license number on FoxNews channel first, continuously toggling between them and MSNBC and CNN. And now I find out that the police hadn't wanted the license number released; yet, it was the public, not the police, who first found the vehicle. And here's the question that keeps coming back to me: "Why hadn't the police been cruising through obvious places - parking lots of shopping centers, WalMarts, and rest areas - looking for the suspect vehicle? That would have been my first place to look! It appears to be so easy to hide in those places, or get rid of unwanted items in public trashcans at those locations!
Could be an old version or there could be different types and sizes of thermite grenades
Dateline, Primetime, or 20-20 I don't remember which, as I was watching them all, had film footage of the take down of the two illegals, and yes in the background at another phone booth were the two snipers.
51 posted on 10/28/2002 10:25 AM PST by Spunky
So these two Nation of Islam Serial Killers set up this event and had a great laugh that morning as the illegal aliens were dragged from an evil white van.
Tim McVeigh comes to mind. Not an identical story, but an Iraq sympathizer.
Check here...
Documents on the Beltway Sniper (Legal name is John Allen MUHAMMAD)
Flag me with what you learn.
This is of interest...
Muhammad was transferred to Germany in 1990, fought in the Gulf War in 1991, returned to the United States in 1992 and got an honorable discharge from the army, as a sergeant, in 1994.
LINKI'm wondering how close Muhammad was to Hamburg. His Oregon National Guard info might also be useful.
Sniper Suspect and Moose in Oregon Guard
John Allen Muhammad, the former soldier arrested Thursday in connection with the serial sniper attacks around Washington, D.C., trained in the Oregon National Guard near Portland International Airport during the same time as former Portland Police Chief Charles Moose served at the airport with the Air National Guard.
Staff Sgt. Leisha Leyson of the Guards 41st Brigade trained with Muhammad at the 141st Battalion, or Bravo Company. She remembers him as a serious, military-minded loner who proved himself an exceptional shot with an M-16.
He didnt have a lot of friends in the unit, and he wasnt there very long, Leyson said.
Muhammad was stationed at the Fort Lewis Army base south of Tacoma before joining the Oregon National Guard. His service lasted from 1985 to 1994. He appears to have served with the Oregon Guard without ever residing in Oregon.
A public records search showed an address for Muhammad in Lakewood, Wash., in May 1994 and another in Tacoma in June 1994.
The exact dates he served aren't specifically stated (bad reporting), but from the last paragraph quoted above, it would appear to be in 1994.
Incendiary Grenades
The AN-M14 incendiary (thermite) hand grenade is cylindrical in shape and has a sheet metal body with emission holes in the top (fig. 12-4). It weighs 32 ounces and contains a filler of 26.5 ounces of TH3 thermite mixture. It uses an igniting fuze that sets fire to the thermite filler after the normal delay. The thermite filler bums for approximately 40 seconds at a temperature of about 4300°F. A portion of the thermite filler changes into molten iron that flows out of the grenade and produces intense heat over a small area. This molten iron ignites or fuzes whatever it touches. It is used to ignite combustible materials and to destroy all types of equipment. It burns through about one-fourth inch of steel and welds together steel or iron machinery parts when molten iron flows between them.
"Oh! Muslims--Unite, Unite, Unite."
That's the first time I've ever seen anything like that around here.
I'm not sure that I buy that "fact".
The Caprice had its tag run by police at ten of the 13 attack sites. Had it TRULY been on a super-secret watch list, at least one of those stops would have nabbed the snipers.
No way. Can someone post an image of this?
*sigh*
How many more Nation of Islam anti Americans have been in our military and are in it do damage to our good service people.
I totally agree. This is outrageous. Mohammed has evidently been making anti-American statements for a long time.
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