Russians in control of the theater! On CNN

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[Diddle E. Squat]

Looks like a pretty good conclusion

[LenS]

As it stands, old-style USSR communism was the height of civilization compared to Islamo-nazism.

It may have been more civilized, but it also slaughtered tens of millions more than Islamofascism. The Islamofascists wished they could kill a 100 million in a century like the Marxists did.

That lack of civilization also helps to make the Islamofascists incapable of building vast fleets or armies or rocket forces with nukes.

[Diddle E. Squat]

CNN running tape from Russian TV of some of the actual capturing of the terrorists. Interesting that the Russians use the same word "sniper" as we do.

[MJY1288]

FOMOCO has a bad reputation of selling their defective models overseas, Look at all the Explorer's that were sold overseas!

[Pyro7480]

I second that (e)motion. I'm also 22, and I still have my doubts about the Russians. But I ought to be grateful that they handled this situation in the right manner.

[VaBthang4]

Not directly[that I know of]...

We do have Military liasons/advisors who cross train with regular Russian forces. It never fails that the Russians want to know more than just how your gun works. I have personally shown Russian Soldiers how to take down M-60s, .50 Cal and Mark 19's...but never took any through CQB tactics.

With that said...the tactics and marksmanship are about as refined as they are gonna get. Now preparation, positioning and using technology to handle different/fluid scenarios is the hook. Where that is concerned we are tops....the Russians [and the World, save the British] lags behind in those areas.

With that said...the Russians have plenty of "shooters".

[SuziQ]

I want Barayev deader than a doornail.

According to CNN, you have have had your wish fulfilled by the Russian military. At least, Barayev, the younger.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

All Hostages freed, Radical muslims dead ......GREAT NEWS

Awesome! Muslim terrorists = dead meat. Beware you f*cking b*stards! Hell's coming!!!

[Diddle E. Squat]

OK, CNN is good about breaking news, but they are still liberal bastards. I guess they couldn't take any more talking about the "hostage-takers", so now they are running a Christian Amanpour report on the Chechen war.

Gee, I wonder who the bad guys will be in her report?

[maranatha]

Fox was way ahead of CNN most of the time during the sniper thing with breaking news and new information. They were excellent. Amy Kellog was reporting from Russia, she's the best. But, I did have to go to CNN. Oh no, Amonpour is on. Mute.

[SkyPilot]

Anyone can see that his little red propeller fell off, fer cryin' out loud.

It is interesting that for all the hatred Muslims have towards Jews, they have hijacked (pardon the expression) many tenents of the Jewish faith:

1. Dietary Laws
2. Where they face to pray (Mecca vice Jerusalem)
3. Skullcaps, and other forms of dress

[Diddle E. Squat]

Ah, now I see why they are running the C. Amonpour report. It is highlighting Bush criticizing Russia regarding Chechnia, and then changes his position.

[Dobrozhelatel']

Very good point... Just rebels ... or hostage takers ...- I guess "terrorists" is a trademark of administration now...

[wonders]

I believe Chechnya has never been Christian. For a while, in the early middle ages, the area was controlled by the Khazars, who were (of all things) Jewish. But it has been Islamic ever since then.

Actually a large part (if not majority) were Christian once upon a time, converted to Islam beginning in 16th century (first Sunni, later Sufi "brotherhoods" also).

[MJY1288]

"Beware you f*cking b*stards! Hell's coming!!!"

Amen Brother, The world is getting damn sick and tired of the endless and senseless killings by these Muslim Islamic finatics, and it's time we kill them all

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

If CNN refers to the Al Queda inspired Islamist Terrorists one more time as "rebels" I will scream. Fox is doing the same thing, but at least Oliver North called them on it. You would think that the explosive belts and obsession with suicide murder would give it away, wouldn't you?

Yes. The agenda-driven reporting by the leftist media is appalling. But the good news is, that their BS isn't selling, and their credibility continues to plummet to new depths. And, since the islamists are totally one-dimensional in their approach (socio-politically speaking), there will be more examples of their inhumanity in the future. The leftist media will be left appearing as the foolish partisans that they are.

[Sally'sConcerns]

Did anyone here over 30 think we'd ever be rooting for the Russians

Never! Not in my lifetime! They were the enemy throughout my childhood and up until the wall fell! Hooyah!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

It is probably going to take a few more nasty events in this country for the PC crowd to change their Multicultural attitudes though!

[Diddle E. Squat]

There's always an armchair dumbass in every crowd. Yeah, yeah, superman, you would have disarmed the 50 terrorists without a shot being fired?

[VaBthang4]

"SAS>Spetznatz>everone else."

No disrespect intended but not in a million years.

The training and equipment of American Delta units blows away British SAS & SBS. The Russian have good marksmen but their equipment is nowhere near comparable.

I would place them in groupings...

Delta, Green Berets

Seals, Spetnaz, SAS & SBS, Marine FAST Companies

Rangers, Marine Recon

The American and British units all have ongoing combat experience through Afghanistan and the Phillipines. The Russians are playing in Chechnya...but they dont use SpecFor like the west does.