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Seditious Website Sponsore by Earthlink?!?! CHECK THIS OUT! (bring your tinfoil hat along)
"www.theforbiddenknowledge.com" ^
| 10-25-2002
| Kip Lange
Posted on 10/25/2002 2:46:13 AM PDT by Kip Lange
Okay, uh, I ran across this site tonight, and it freaked me out, because it is ACTIVELY CALLING FOR MILITARY TO DESERT. Go look and judge for yourself. And it's located in *Washington (the state)*. Someone tell me this is government propaganda...*please*...whois information listed below -- it's hosted by EARTHLINK! If this thing is for real they should get FReeped HARD! Enter the site and check out: "Coming; "Who do you serve?" A page for military and law enforcement personnel."
PUBLIC WHOIS INFORMATION:
Organization:
Roger Bullock
Roger Bullock
2101 South 324th St. #16
Federal Way, WA 98003
US
Phone: (253) 835-9020
Email: roger67@mindspring.com
Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com
Domain Name: THEFORBIDDENKNOWLEDGE.COM
Created on..............: Tue, Aug 24, 1999
Expires on..............: Tue, Aug 24, 2004
Record last updated on..: Wed, Sep 18, 2002
Administrative Contact:
Roger Bullock
Roger Bullock
2101 South 324th St. #16
Federal Way, WA 98003
US
Phone: (253) 835-9020
Email: roger67@mindspring.com
Technical Contact:
Earthlink Inc.
Hostmaster Hostmaster
1375 Peachtree St., Level A
Atlanta, GA 30309
US
Phone: 8889321997
Email: hostmaster@earthlink.net
Zone Contact:
Earthlink Inc.
Hostmaster Hostmaster
1375 Peachtree St., Level A
Atlanta, GA 30309
US
Phone: 8889321997
Email: hostmaster@earthlink.net
Domain servers in listed order:
SPEAKEASY.EARTHLINK.NET
207.69.188.200
HEARSAY.EARTHLINK.NET
207.69.188.201
RUMOR.EARTHLINK.NET
207.69.188.202
TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Free Republic; Government; Philosophy; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: activism; crime; defection; misinformation; propaganda; religion; sedition; treason
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To: Kip Lange
If this crackpot is right that the US has been run by some sort of Masonic conspiracy in which George Washington and the other founding fathers were a part, and that the Statue of Liberty is part of the symbolism-- all I can say is that the Masonic conspirators have done a mighty good job of running the country. Sure there have been some mistakes and bad times (Civil War being the worst, IMHO), but they managed and directed the growth and development of the greatest country on Earth.
If what I perceive to be freedom turns out be less than perfect, on account of manipulation, it is still a whole lot better than what most of the rest of the world experiences.
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posted on
10/25/2002 9:44:18 AM PDT
by
Montfort
To: Montfort
If what I perceive to be freedom turns out be less than perfect, on account of manipulation, it is still a whole lot better than what most of the rest of the world experiences.But how much better could it have been if the Illuminists were not pulling the strings?
To: Montfort
Man, I step away for an hour or so, and I'm getting skewered over the same issues...uh...read my darned posts. :p
1. I am not a Mason. :-) In fact, I don't particularly LIKE the Mason thing, but it's not frickin' space aliens and whatnot, it's Shriner rodeos to raise money for the local children's hospital. If you still don't believe me, I'll look up all the stupid Masonic rituals that are all over the place on the 'net and post 'em for you, including the blasted handshake, if you want. :-)
2. I'm ticked that Earthlink would allow such a blatant breach of their AUP.
3. Geographic location (halfway between Tacoma and Seattle? Possibly military housing for Ft. Lewis?) stinks.
4. I don't object to anything on the site -- heck, nor is anything on the site something you can't find at 8,000,000 other sites -- EXCEPT THE CALL TO LE & MILITARY
5. Add that with 3 and John Allen Willimas and I get a queasy feeling.
6. (+5) = 11 ! heh, sorry (actually you can go to snopes.com and see a complete debunk of all that numerology crud)
7. That being said...and, er, if you look at some of the other posts of put up, say, in the sniper threads, where people were pulling things straight outta thin air, you'd probably realize I'm not some nut running around with foam at the cornes of my mouth. ;-) (it's on the *lips!*)
8. Nation of Islam is notorious for spouting this kinda junk.
9. See John Allen Williams redux...
10. Alright, if I'm upsetting you all this much, I'll just fade away and go back to trying to calm down all the people who are trying to read "like a duck in a noose" fifty different ways... :-)
*shrug* Why the animosity towards me? I just said FReep the freak. I dislike the idea of using anti-Masonic propaganda, which resonates with Black Muslims, in that particular area.
Ah well. ;-) If ya can't see the points I'm making...uh...check the cave you're in for a TV.
--KL
To: Kip Lange
What is the website?
To: Kip Lange
I'm considering submitting it; I just feel a little hesitant given that 1) It's created by someone totally bonkers and 2) I'm more concerned in Earthlink taking some accountability for this and of course 3) I'm afraid of talking with people who have lots of legal guns (especially if they think I'm just being an idiot). ;-) You could report it but the only thing that would do is get you put on a FBI list as a potential wacko because you took this site seriously. Dude, calm down and take a deep breathe, everything will be OK.
To: Kip Lange
You don't see global government being propped up in the name of fighting terror?
To: Kip Lange
What are you afraid of? People actually having minds for themselves to discern? People are waking up to the idea that we're seeing a global shift of gigantic proportions in the September eleventh world, and it is the Globalists who are creating the hysteria all in an effort to build up their global government and crack down on American rights and national sovereignty.
To: Kip Lange
I TOO SHARE YOUR EXTREME CONSTERNATION!!! THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE WICKED SITE WHICH SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO EXIST!!! IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME AND TO EVERYONE ELSE THAT NOT ONLY IS THE AN ACTUAL EARTHLINK-SPONSORED SITE, GEORGE SOROS HIMSELF IS REALLY THE AUTHOR OF SEVERAL OF THOSE ARTICLES!!!! I SUGGEST YOU CONTACT LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE FBI, THE NSA, OR PERHAPS THE POWERPUFF GIRLS. POSSIBLE LAWS VIOLATED INCLUDE U.S.C. 18 237.5, THE THOUGHT CRIME LAW. END TRANSMISSION.
To: boris
RE: Necronomicon
Have you seen the prices on Amazon for this out-of-print treasure?!?How much as they asking for it? (Just curious...I have a copy sitting on my bookshelf. Just the paperback, but in excellent condition.)
To: Kip Lange
People are always calling for the military to desert - they're also calling for the military to form a union. Fa chance of either happening.
To: Kip Lange
Kip,
I wouldn't worry too much about this influencing our troopies. I work with them daily, and this isn't going to send anyone home from the trenches.
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posted on
10/27/2002 12:03:25 PM PST
by
MadJack
To: Miss Marple
With a tip of the hat to H. P. Lovecraft no doubt.
To: Lloyd227; GovernmentShrinker; Kip Lange; boris
Kip:
Well, I don't see anything remotely seditious about the site pointed out in this post. Perhaps you confuse the 100% unconstitutional Sedition Act President Wilson put to such "good" use in his day for present law...I suggest you look it up before claiming that this violates 1) actual law on sedition or 2) a user contract based on respect of existing laws. In any case, wherever you might have doubts, in absence of a material conspiracy, the right to free speech always trumps your desire to be unbothered by it.
Lloyd and others:
As for SCIENTOLOGY, please see
http://www.clambake.org/ if you have any doubts about it. THAT is a legitimately vile organization, although I suppose one could argue that it is the example that points to many of the flaws in our legal system due to the ways in which they abuse it.
Oh, and since the Masons have come up, I was wondering if any of you had heard of "the Moors", a fringe group of radical blacks who wear fezzes, assault police officers (well, at least the one I came across when I was called up to jury duty), and firmly believe that the first to discover America were African Muslims in the Moorish expansion (..and that slavery was a hoax created to deprive blacks of the land that was once theirs). Now those are a bunch of nutjobs.
To: Kip Lange
Oh, and even if any military/police personnel were to defect on the strength of these revelations, I don't think it would be much of a loss. Section 8 all round...
It doesn't seem to have all of its "facts" (aka unsubstantiated, unreferenced conjectures) together either. GWB is either a Freemason or an Illuminatus, to be both would be akin to being a Nazi and a Communist at once (Similar, yet diametrically opposed).
Why do I have this fresh on the brain? 'Cause I just finished Alan Moore's masterful "From Hell", a fictional book based on reams of research about all kinds of great conspiracies around Jack the Ripper (only tangentially related to the movie of the same name).
To believe "secret societies" exist is rational...to believe they run everything is not. Unless, that is, you share the frightening vision of history that Moore puts forth (only in the vein of fiction, of course) in his work...TINFOIL!
To: mhking
Appropriate attire for the nonsense on that website!
To: Kip Lange
Interesting site. There's something for just about everybody in there, but then there is the Freemasonry / numerology / end times stuff. They preach all of this and also link to an anti Art Bell site?
WTFC, it's a free country.
Didn't find any stuff there I'd say is treasonous or seditious. Maybe they realized we are on to them and deleted it.
Dave in Eugene
To: Dave in Eugene of all places
(Maybe they realized we are on to them and deleted it.)
Forgot the < /sarcasm > tag.
To: Kip Lange
I'd say this certainly at least subjects Earthlink to liability. ;-) Ummm... liability for what? Free speech? There's some truth in this nuts ramblings... and some where he's reaching... but I didn't find anything that was "against the law."
To: Kip Lange
P.S. Gun ownership and target practice is legal in the Pacific Northwest...if someone hadn't gotten annoyed that his neighbor had been having target practice fun with a rifle at night, we might still have a sniper on the loose...just trying to make the analogy.Well, from the articles I read, the sniper wasn't caught by the reports of a disgruntled neighbor... He basically gave clues till they caught him. The neighbor when questioned later said that they did hear some shots coming from that direction periodically, but they didn't attribute it to him.
To: Dave in Eugene of all places; All
They took down the references to Law Enforcement and a time of reckoning for them to "make a choice". :-)
Mission accomplished! Now the nut can go on in peace, for all I care. I just wanted THAT stuff outta there in a site that may be in Ft. Lewis federalized housing of all places. :p
FReep appreciated. :-)
Best,
KL
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