Seditious Website Sponsore by Earthlink?!?! CHECK THIS OUT! (bring your tinfoil hat along)

"www.theforbiddenknowledge.com" ^ | 10-25-2002 | Kip Lange

[Kip Lange]

Okay, uh, I ran across this site tonight, and it freaked me out, because it is ACTIVELY CALLING FOR MILITARY TO DESERT. Go look and judge for yourself. And it's located in *Washington (the state)*. Someone tell me this is government propaganda...*please*...whois information listed below -- it's hosted by EARTHLINK! If this thing is for real they should get FReeped HARD! Enter the site and check out: "Coming; "Who do you serve?" A page for military and law enforcement personnel."

PUBLIC WHOIS INFORMATION:

Organization:
Roger Bullock
Roger Bullock
2101 South 324th St. #16
Federal Way, WA 98003
US
Phone: (253) 835-9020
Email: roger67@mindspring.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: THEFORBIDDENKNOWLEDGE.COM

Created on..............: Tue, Aug 24, 1999
Expires on..............: Tue, Aug 24, 2004
Record last updated on..: Wed, Sep 18, 2002

Administrative Contact:
Roger Bullock
Roger Bullock
2101 South 324th St. #16
Federal Way, WA 98003
US
Phone: (253) 835-9020
Email: roger67@mindspring.com

Technical Contact:
Earthlink Inc.
Hostmaster Hostmaster
1375 Peachtree St., Level A
Atlanta, GA 30309
US
Phone: 8889321997
Email: hostmaster@earthlink.net

Zone Contact:
Earthlink Inc.
Hostmaster Hostmaster
1375 Peachtree St., Level A
Atlanta, GA 30309
US
Phone: 8889321997
Email: hostmaster@earthlink.net

Domain servers in listed order:

SPEAKEASY.EARTHLINK.NET
207.69.188.200
HEARSAY.EARTHLINK.NET
207.69.188.201
RUMOR.EARTHLINK.NET
207.69.188.202

[Kip Lange]

Freaks me out. Especially the "coming soon" bit for military people, and in context of the sniper...PLEASE somebody tell me this is misinformation of some kind..."Coming; "Who do you serve?" A page for military and law enforcement personnel."?!?!

[Kip Lange]

Pinging you on this one. You gotta see this malarkey.

--KL

[Kip Lange]

By the way, poke around a bit, and you will see MORE references to the military defecting/deserting (LE as well). I don't like that ONE BIT.

[backhoe]

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	64.82.0.0 - 64.82.127.255 EarthLink, Inc. 1375 PEACHTREE ST, LEVEL A ATLANTA GA 30309 US
	Domain Administrator, Administrator arinpoc@corp.earthlink.net +1-404-815-0770

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[Miss Marple]

About all that's missing from that site is the mad writings of Abdul Alhazrad in the Necronomicon.

Seriously, it looks like a site devotes to all the far-out stuff like pyramidology, etc. and I doubt that it is worth worrying about. Simply a loony-toon.

[Kip Lange]

Yes, but wouldn't you say that actively calling for the military to defect (poke around, it's in there, I can produce the exact link if you want) is sedition at best? Earthlink should at LEAST be FReeped. Of course is loony tune stuff; point is it's borderline DANGEROUS loony-tune stuff. (let me find that quote)

[Kip Lange]

Okay, here's what got my blood boiling (from http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/wtc/index02.htm:

"There are many reasons for the attack, one is to bring America into war and another is to further the destruction of the economy. As days pass we are getting closer and closer to Anti-Christ. It can be stopped. If YOU want it to."

"When America goes to war it will be fighting a war which was planned along time ago. One sure way to stop their plan is to show Military personnel who the true enemy is. Then Military people wouldn't carry out their plan. All they do is make people suffer and fight wars in the name of their God, Satan."

Seditious enough for you? Certainly shouldn't be being HOSTED by frickin' EARTHLINK...grumble...

[Kip Lange]

There is also MORE stuff...site is horribly constructed, trying to get back to it...which seems to be asking the military to "convert"...given recent "Sniper Fun" developments, I don't think it's very funny. Grrr...I want this thing offline (and no, I'm not a Mason *grin*).

[Miss Marple]

You could report it to the Terror Task Force in DC. I didn't see the sniper references, but if they are there that would be a pretty hot item for law enforcement.

What I want to know is how do people like that have the time and money for such an elaborate site?

[Kip Lange]

You could report it to the Terror Task Force in DC. I didn't see the sniper references, but if they are there that would be a pretty hot item for law enforcement.

No sniper references...just references calling on military personnel to "choose sides" and that "they can stop it". It's linked SOMEWHERE on an Iraq page...still digging it up...may be linked *off* the site, not sure.

I'm considering submitting it; I just feel a little hesitant given that 1) It's created by someone totally bonkers and 2) I'm more concerned in Earthlink taking some accountability for this and of course 3) I'm afraid of talking with people who have lots of legal guns (especially if they think I'm just being an idiot). ;-)

--KL

[Miss Marple]

I don't know about the correct procedure for this. I guess I would contact earthlink and ask them to take a look at the site and give you their reponse. Depending on the response, I would go from there.

[Kip Lange]

Done, and leaked to whatever media might care. ;-)

You know, I fully intended on putting a "d" on the end of "sponsore", but, uhm...you see, D is the fourth letter of the alphabet, and 4x2 = 8, which is two circles, and we all know that aliens land in crop circles. So I got scared. :-P

This guy's a real winner...I'll be awaiting his "coming soon" page for military and LE if Earthlink doesn't shut him down.

What amazes me is...how he got the domain name...that CANNOT be an easy domain name to get (trust me on this one).

--KL

[Lloyd227]

"... and in context of the sniper...PLEASE somebody tell me this is misinformation..."

WOW, I'm shocked and amazed alright.
Not at the content on this website, but by your reaction to it!

What's the problem? it's just a collection of about every quirk and conspiracy theory available on the net these days. Some of them with a grain of truth, others.... well who knows.

But what's got you in such a panic mode? and what's with the "Sponsored by Earthlink lie you told in the headline of this posting? There's a big difference between HOSTED and SPONSORED.

I honestly can't decide who is the most dishonest and paranoid nut here, the owner of this website or YOU.

By the way, if you can manage to qwell your fear long enough to sift through the chaf, there is some very good information buried in this site. Sure there's some real garbage as well, but how exactly does that make it any different from the puke Dan Rather spews at you in the name of "news"?

Calm yourself down, practice discerning the truth from the error and you might just learn something inside that site.

and thanks for the link :-)

[RWG]

This domain is dedicated to the teaching of knowledge that was hidden from the human race all through history...how can this be? All these sites, books, and media shows originate in the minds of psychotics.

[Lloyd227]

"One sure way to stop their plan is to show Military personnel who the true enemy is."

Well... sounds a bit like someone on this thread, maybe several someones are absolutely in a panic at the very concept of having the military actually understand the nature of the battles they are sent to fight. Oh, we can't have THAT! Why, they might learn that it's unconstitutional to serve under U.N. command, or they might actually wonder whether Iraq is really a threat to the U.S., or, or....... oh my, our soldiers might actually THINK and disobey an order should it turn out to be an illegal act!

We can't have THAT now can we?

Calm down people, this website is merely calling on people to think a bit for themselves and the author is just trying to stir your minds awake by placing every shocking quirk or theory right under your nose.

Grow up and don't be so fearful because some of these ideas might upset your pretty little world.

[Cvengr]

Their position is not seditious. They argue an anti-freemasonry position based upon their conclusions that the particular officeholders of the Presidency are highly influenced by the occult. They actually argue in favor of supporting the Constitution and the US.

From their perspective a hidden agenda exists which they argue to expose.

The quotes you offer taken out of context shift their meaning. They don't recommend opposition to the US military service, rather they argue a contrived antiConstitutional takeover is in the making, that the military will be a pawn to that effort, and if the military opened its eyes, it wouldn't act akin to those machinations.

I don't agree with their position as I find it a bit premature in their conclusions, but I see nothing wrong in their expression of free speech. Quite the contrary, I find their expression of their beliefs to be more beneficial than muting them as you would recommend.

You wouldn't happen to be a Freemason would you?

[Kip Lange]

Wait a minute. Okay, first of all, I've been up all night, yes, I did make the mistake of saying they sponsored it. :p (got "sponsored" on the brain).

Second, WHAT good information is on that site? Unless you're some nut on a crusade against Shriners or want info on Masonic rituals? Or if, perhaps, you're a black american Muslim who the site is trying to subvert through known misperceptions of Masons in the black community...eh?

Third, it's all well and good to call me nutty for drawing anyone's attention to it, but 1) It's in Washington State, which kinda perks my ears up and 2) See above posts, it basically seems to be calling for the military to DEFECT. Isn't that...uh...sedition?

I'm ticked, not panicked, there's a difference. :-)

--KL

[Kip Lange]

Good Lord, I am NOT A MASON. Said it before. And if you know a Mason, they WILL tell you that they are Masons.

It's seditious tripe. I stand by it.

--KL

[Lloyd227]

"You wouldn't happen to be a Freemason would you?"

*smile* Nice touch!

I was biting my tongue not to ask the same question. You can feel the real motives just under the surface in some of the panic postings above can't you?

And some of the postings above are outright lies in the way they've intentionally mislabeled and misquoted things taken out of context.

Overall though, I'm glad they posted this, the lyrics from Rush were well worth the price paid sifting through the fearful rantings of these posters! :-)

Cheers!

[Kip Lange]

Ah, wait, one more thing: THE TECH CONTACT IS EARTHLINK. That, as far as I know, is pretty darned close to sponsoring, so I request permission to revise and extend my previous rant. ;-)

Oh, and flame away...I'm quite enjoying it. :-)

--KL