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Mom in Videotaped Beating Expected to Plead Innocent
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Posted on 09/23/2002 7:07:37 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

TINLEY PARK, Ill.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childabuse; toogood; traveler; travelers; videotape
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To: Tired of Taxes
Just more evidence to back up my theory that women with hypenated or mulitple last names can not be trusted.
21 posted on 09/23/2002 8:01:07 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Tired of Taxes
And I submit Hillary Rodham Clinton as my supreme example.
22 posted on 09/23/2002 8:01:30 AM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: martin_fierro
What happened to her blond hair?
23 posted on 09/23/2002 8:02:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Tired of Taxes
"I was thinking, I look like a monster," Toogood said, crying.

No, you did not look like a monster. You ARE monster.

24 posted on 09/23/2002 8:02:17 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
She probably shoplifted a bottle of Loreal somewhere. She probably thinks she's worth it.
25 posted on 09/23/2002 8:03:44 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: martin_fierro
Note that Toogood's lawyer will be a traveler also. Most likely related by marriage.
26 posted on 09/23/2002 8:04:57 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Tired of Taxes
Rosen, her attorney, said he believed the hitting took place because Martha misbehaved in the store, taking toys out of packages and wandering away

Spend your life stealing and staying in no place long enough to set roots and then beat your child for emulating it. Brilliant thesis.

27 posted on 09/23/2002 8:05:09 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
Lesbians???? If you say so.
28 posted on 09/23/2002 8:08:30 AM PDT by alnick
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To: cincinnati65
When I grew up, my mother used a switch, my father used a belt, my elementary school principal used a razor strap, my high school P.E. teacher used a wooden paddle with holes drilled in it. Oh well, I guess they all deserved life terms for child abuse.
29 posted on 09/23/2002 8:10:19 AM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: AmusedBystander
When I grew up, my mother used a switch, my father used a belt, my elementary school principal used a razor strap, my high school P.E. teacher used a wooden paddle with holes drilled in it. Oh well, I guess they all deserved life terms for child abuse.

I was reading this and thinking the same thing.. Personally I used a fly swatter..

I'm not making excuses for this woman but this tape does is not very good evidence. It leaves too much to the imagination. I didn't see anything that looked like hair pulling or punching. A few too many slaps maybe. If they would have been punches this little girl would have had some severe damage.

This is the same group of people who are so upset about security cameras who are ready to take this little girl away from her mom. Maybe she needs some anger management therapy or something but I have to see and hear a lot more before I would call for taking the child away. I don't think this is a very good video to come to those conclusions unless you have a very active imagination.

But then again, I came from a generation where if you swore or sassed ( as they called it) to your mom you wore her hand print on the side of your face for the next couple hours in the form of a welt.. But you never did it again.

30 posted on 09/23/2002 9:27:10 AM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: Texas Mom
>>I didn't see anything that looked like hair pulling or punching.<<

If you have not seen the part where the woman puts the child in a car seat, then drwas back her fist and hits the child repeatedly, you have not seen the entire tape. I don't know why the media doesn't show that every time, but I know for a fact they don't.

Why not???

31 posted on 09/23/2002 10:05:31 AM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: Texas Mom
This is the same group of people who are so upset about security cameras who are ready to take this little girl away from her mom.

Actually, the anti-security camera crowd are the ones who are defending the mother. They seem to think that the only outrageous thing about that video is that a department store has a security camera.

The woman admitted to hitting the child and pulling the child's hair. You may not have seen the segment of the tape where the woman closes her fist and proceeds to throw her closed fist about four times in the vicinity of the child's head. For some reason, that section is usually not shown. They have been ending the video right before that section for the past couple of days.

Now, if the woman admits that she hit the child and pulled the child's hair and if the video shows her throwing her fist in the vicinity of the child's head, what are the odds that she was doing anything but punching the child?

The sister-in-law said that the woman was only adjusting the car seat. That was before the mother confessed. The mother, by the way, said, "I looked like a monster."

I am the first one to correct someone who claims that any form of corporal punishment constitutes beating a child. There is definitely a difference between a spanking and a beating. This child received a beating.

32 posted on 09/23/2002 10:21:48 AM PDT by alnick
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To: Tired of Taxes
Rosen, her attorney, said he believed the hitting took place because Martha misbehaved in the store, taking toys out of packages and wandering away, prompting store employees to page Toogood twice.

This prompts two thoughts:

(1) The little girl has already been taught how to shoplift -- "Taking toys out of packages and wandering away"... and

(2) the mom was probably trying to remove tags so she could claim a cash refund on merchandise without a receipt, and that's why she ignored the girl while in the store.

33 posted on 09/23/2002 11:32:48 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: ghost of nixon
is that similar to an Irish Setter?

Actually she seems to be an Irish Hitter.

34 posted on 09/23/2002 11:34:16 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Tired of Taxes
"I can't believe I did that to my little 4-year-old girl."

BS!!!! This was not an act of a first-timer. There's a history of this stuff in her, I guarantee it.

35 posted on 09/23/2002 11:38:29 AM PDT by al_c
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To: Rokke; A Vast RightWing Conspirator
OK, there was the terrible video, and then the confessions from the mother, the father and the lawyer...but what do we really know?

We know that only the video was really necessary to become Osama bin Whorealdo and start the stoning. Long before the confessions there were dozens of FReepers who knew she was beaten to a pulp her neck was broken and her internal injuries would undoubtedly be fatal. It's so unfortunate that several days passed and she recovered. Osama bin Whorealdo oughta punch out that lyin' prosecutor for saying "she looks fine". What kind of prosecutor confesses something like that?

36 posted on 09/23/2002 7:05:28 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: alnick; Texas Mom
Actually, the anti-security camera crowd are the ones who are defending the mother.

Can you cut and paste one single post that defends the mother or her actions? I think you're a liar. Show us where anyone has defended her. Or shut up!

37 posted on 09/23/2002 7:18:13 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: TigersEye
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/754747/replies?comment=5#5
38 posted on 09/23/2002 7:37:03 PM PDT by alnick
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To: TigersEye
And one example from one of your posts:

"You want a pound of her flesh? You want justice?You lame bunch of statist sycophantic pricks!!!

Maybe this lady hit her kid. (no one here knows)

Maybe her kid pushes all the right buttons and does it for fun. (no one here knows)

Maybe this child needs a new home and mom needs a serious time-out, with help.
(NO ONE HERE KNOWS)

The only thing that can be said for certain about this story is that 30 seconds of surveillance video can get every loser in America to scream for Barrabas' release and demand to be put on the nailing crew.

There's a story here alright. Not about what this woman did or didn't do."


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/754747/posts?page=159#159

39 posted on 09/23/2002 7:44:23 PM PDT by alnick
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To: alnick
The post you linked to has no defense of the mother or her actions whatsoever.
Put up or shut up!

And then there is this which does validate what was said in that post.

A doctor examined the girl and found no medical problems and no long-term signs of abuse, authorities said.

40 posted on 09/23/2002 7:48:40 PM PDT by TigersEye
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