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WHAT IS A LIBERTARIAN?....goin' out on a limb here, folks ;o)
9-22-02 | just me

Posted on 09/22/2002 6:53:05 AM PDT by EggsAckley

Okay, folks. I've been hanging around here, trying to sort out the local population for about four years. I have discerned that there are "big-L" Libertarians, and there are "little-l" libertarians, and these sometimes do not agree with each other. And I've also encountered some threads where the big-L's seem to gang up on everybody, and I'm really trying to figure out why there are so MANY different ideologies here.

From what I have gleaned, Libertarians (both big-L and little-l) are against big government. Well, guess what! So am I. I think we have wa-a-a-a-y too many laws about wa-a-a-a-y too many things that should be none of the government's business. I also think that those laws favor certain groups of citizens while encumbering others. Of course, the obvious example would be the givers and takers of our nation. The hard-working give to the non-working, who gladly lap up what is offered. Or the issue that's currently a burr under my personal saddle: THE DEATH TAX. But these are just BIG examples; there are lots of little ones.

How about, when we get RID of a few laws, let's make some NEW ones, laws that really HELP people, all people. Like, a law against putting labels in the neck of women's garments? Or a law against the goofy "easy open" packaging? Or a law against too much fog (oops, just being a little selfish there.) And a law against the BIGGIE: it should be a federal offense for any book to be published WITHOUT an INDEX! Ya know, these are laws that would help EVERYONE, rich or poor, left or right.

Okay, I know this is silly, but there ARE some laws I'd like to see enacted, such as a law requiring that all appointed judges be subject to a performance review, say....every ten years. For that matter, ANY lifetime government jobs should be subject to this. In fact, even tenured professors should be reviewed regularly.

And who should review them? US. We the people. Maybe put it on the ballot so that all citizens can comment on the matter. Yeah, you're right.......too many people don't vote, and it would probably turn into a huge and expensive political football, and we don't need any more of those.

Yes, I know I'm veering off from the title of this missive, but it's all still pertinent, in a round-about way. I simply would like to understand why there is so much consternation here on FR when the word "L-libertarian" pops up. I do know that several of the "big-L's" whip out their copy of a book written by a woman whose name escapes me now. But that's NOT what I want. I want to read their OWN words, their OWN ideologies, not some L-libertarian "handbook."

I'm really serious (series?) here folks. Yes, I want less government; yes, I want less laws. Could I be (*gasp*) a closet L-libertarian??

Confusion reigns.



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To: Chad Fairbanks
The label thing confuses me too. That's why I go without them. Thank sanity that Bush is President and not Gore!
81 posted on 09/22/2002 4:36:41 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Zon
Gore as president? Not in my lifetime... thank God...
82 posted on 09/22/2002 4:40:01 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: serinde
One article that may be of interest to you is Liberty: A Unified Field Theory. I found it interesting.

I'm glad someone found it interesting, as the comments weren't exactly profound.

Thanks for reading it, anyway, serinde. I posted it more to open some minds more than to promote discussion, and I would have to believe it's achieving that end.

The link you supplied is outdated, BTW.

Liberty: A Unified Field Theory


83 posted on 09/22/2002 5:11:47 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: tpaine
The biggest 'evil' is a fanatical effort to dictate and enforce your cultist will upon your peers.

Sounds like the Libertarian fascination with drugs to me....

84 posted on 09/22/2002 9:22:30 PM PDT by freebilly
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To: Cultural Jihad
In practice we would need to dismantle the socialist giveaway programs first.

And the first step is to stop supporting those big-government socialists you vote for in every election.

86 posted on 09/23/2002 2:42:10 AM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: Alan Chapman
What an absolutely tasteless photograph.
87 posted on 09/23/2002 2:43:27 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Cultural Jihad
There is NO 'right' to pornography, drug abuse, sodomy, or any other evil.

Drink or smoke? Watch too much TV? Unhealthy diet? Any cavities? Forget to wash your hands after using the restroom?

Maybe some imprisonment or a few lashes are in order to teach you right from wrong.

88 posted on 09/23/2002 2:47:35 AM PDT by Alan Chapman
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To: All
WOW!! What a fabulous discussion. Thanks everyone. I think I'll need to study them more in the morning, as I just returned from a grueling 14-hour day of reaming out my late mom's house. (not a happy occasion)

It's so nice to come home and find such intelligent and, for the most part, mannerly discussions. I'll get back to it tomorrow and respond. Nice work, Freepers!!
89 posted on 09/23/2002 8:13:54 PM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: serinde
Republican Liberty Caucus
90 posted on 09/29/2002 5:30:52 AM PDT by M.K. Borders
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To: EggsAckley
Arriving late, but here's my answer to your question: A "Libertarian" (or libertarian) is someone who supports the Bill of Rights completely without exception. There might be a few slightly different interpretations of each of the first 10 amendments, but, overall, a Libertarian (or libertarian) is concerned about the rights of the individual over the gov't.

Yes, I used to think they were crazy, too, especially with the decriminalization of drugs and gun rights. But, the LP is the only party that fully supports the basic principles of freedom. (While I don't agree with every LP candidate about everything, I never fully agreed with every GOP candidate, and you probably don't, either).

I won't even take most over-the-counter medications, so obviously I think it's stupid to smoke pot, etc. But, the gov't is spending our hardearned tax dollars trying to save people from themselves. And, remember, the "War on Drugs" is really a "War on SOME Drugs". The gov't gets to act like a nanny picking and choosing what's good for us. Then, they turn around and force parents to drug their own children on OTHER dangerous drugs (like Ritalin, etc.).
91 posted on 10/02/2002 6:24:13 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: M.K. Borders
The RLC may get me to become a Republican.

How many congressmen/senators are members of the RLC? Of course Ron Paul is. So is Bob Barr, although he is a drug warrior, and on his way out anyway. Who else?
92 posted on 10/02/2002 6:33:16 AM PDT by The FRugitive
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To: EggsAckley
First principles of Libertarianism, "KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY DOPE MAN".
93 posted on 10/02/2002 6:40:03 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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