LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE SPITS IN FACE OF TALK SHOW HOST ON THE AIR

DFU listening to KABC in Los Angeles | 9-8-02 | Doug from Upland

[r9etb]

Hypocracy is the Bushbots main failing

LOL! You really ought to learn to spell, DC.

If we go back to word roots on this neologism of yours, we would see:

Hypo-: less than normal or normally

-cracy: form of government; also : state having such a form

So hypocracy would be a form of government marked by "less than normal" governmental powers.

i.e., you contradict yourself.

[Roscoe]

Non-Sequitur.

I plead the hyphen.

[A CA Guy]

A Druid Pagan! LOL
I have always said they have no soul practically to be Libertarians. Moral liberals all the way.
I always have presented the bulk of my opposition to their views on the two issues
#1 Ethics/morality (not seeming to tell the difference from good or bad)
#2 That what they want is "anarchy". It has been said all over that the furthest extent of freedom is anarchy. This is the Libertarian view I think.

I have yet to see where I am off.

[Dead Corpse]

He's not much in the way of an "expert", is he. The change to the pledge was made, but there has never been a legal reqiurement to say "under God". Hence, his stance is wrong.

As a heathen myself, I have no problem saying "under God" or "under the Gods" if I feel the need.

School vouchers for religious schools is a bad idea. I would have rather seen the feds get the hell out of education altogether.

Losing the arguement so you had to change tactics huh? Typical.

[tpaine]

Now suppose that somehow the LP finds itself in a position to do something about it, but finds itself faced with strong opposition. Will the LP simply force its will on the governed?
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How many times must you be told that libertarian principle upholds our constitution?
If we got in a position of 'power', we would be unable to 'force our will' by the same constitutional laws that supposedly restrict you Rinocrats.

[r9etb]

The LP needs to ask if I am acting properly? Think about that. It's a serious question.

The LP does need to think about whether it wants childish people out there "selling" it, using specious and ill-concieved logic.

When I am confronted with an ardent LP evangelist such as you, I am utterly repulsed by the thought of having to listen to a whole roomful people who think and act as you do.

And as the percentages show, I am far from alone on this. You guys do it to yourselves.

[Dead Corpse]

Aaah, but for the lack of one letter a kingdom be lost.

I'm at work, typing between testing cycles. You know what I meant and no one here has a perfect score on spelling.

Care to dodge around some more?

[Roscoe]

change tactics

This is a thread ABOUT Gary Copeland. You didn't catch that?

[Dead Corpse]

What?

Using the same logic you used on one issue on a simlilar issue.

Forget it. If you can't figure it out you are either doing it intentionally, in which case you are a coward, or you are too stupid to understand.

Either way I have no more time for you today.

[r9etb]

You agree with libertarian philosophy of governance, it's just that you don't like the people? That's rich.

No. I disagree with Libertarians on several issues, mostly having to do with the balance of individual rights against those of the community. I also recognize that the LP philosophy does not correspond to things as they are in the real world, especially in the realm of diplomacy and national defense.

Libertarian personalities simply make it easier for me to dislike the LP.

As for other people who are less predisposed to the basic libertarian concepts than I am, they will not even listen to people as unpleasant as you guys tend to be.

[Roscoe]

And as the percentages show, I am far from alone on this.

I think that the LP here in California has failed to meet the minimum requirements for ballot status again this year. Looks like they'll have to go out and start signing up street people living in boxes again.

[Dead Corpse]

Not with you trying to deflect the issue and all. Sorry. I assumed that since you weren't talking about the topic of this thread, that you were more interested in the side debates of your diversionary tactics.

Just trying to be accommodating.

[Protagoras]

I have always said they have no soul practically to be Libertarians. Moral liberals all the way.

Dueling morals? You have no ammunition.

I always have presented the bulk of my opposition to their views on the two issues #1 Ethics/morality (not seeming to tell the difference from good or bad)

Funny, you seem to think lying and misrepresenting people's philosophy is moral. I think you have a problem not seeming to know the difference. Not to mention the immorality of using violence to further your political views. Very moral from your veiwpoint it seems.

#2 That what they want is "anarchy". It has been said all over that the furthest extent of freedom is anarchy. This is the Libertarian view I think.

You think wrong, and you lie about anacrchy and libertarians. Again.

I have yet to see where I am off.

Blinded by hate. That is why you cannot see.

[r9etb]

If we got in a position of 'power', we would be unable to 'force our will' by the same constitutional laws that supposedly restrict you Rinocrats.

Remember: we're assuming that there is opposition to repeal of this or that gun law. (A realistic assumption)

So what exactly does your comment mean: that you would let local gun control laws stand because they represent the consent of the governed? Or that you would repeal those laws over the objection of the communities that passed them?

[tpaine]

Yep, read some books, roscoe, on some of the causes of the civil war. Marshalls 'states rights' decision in Barron v Baltimore is mentioned in many.
We can thank the sane men who ratifyed the 14th, for making that Marshall opinion moot.

[Roscoe]

The Bill of Rights was created to serve as a set of declaratory restrictions on federal power. Federal drug laws were not.

Your "logic" needs some work.

[r9etb]

You know what I meant and no one here has a perfect score on spelling

No -- but the irony was absolutely delicious, wasn't it?

I'm at work, typing between testing cycles.

Tech-type -- as predicted.

[A CA Guy]

Dearest Dead Corpse,
The reason it seems to you that all are being painted with the same brush is that FR seems to have what most would consider nut cases debating here from the Libertarian Party. So when we read about the spitter, we aren't even surprised. It validates what we already know of the party, and by people who mostly take up the names of dead patriots to rant here.
It is my personal opinion only though that the spitter and the Libertarian party could be all nut jobs.
I am sure you are a normal and logical Dead Corpse and that doesn't reflect on you at all.

[justshe]

And I note you did NOT discount my idea of you standing in front of a mirror on your tiptoes.

There IS hope.

[Roscoe]

Yep, read some books, roscoe, on some of the causes of the civil war.

Happy Non Sequitur Day!