Posted on 09/08/2002 9:22:43 PM PDT by doug from upland
The evening started innocently enough for Brian Whitman, Sunday evening talk show host on KABC in Los Angeles.
He had on his show four minor candidates running for governor of California. Three were on the phone and the fourth, Libertarian candidate Gary Copeland, was in studio.
The conversation eventually turned to illegal immigration. Copeland did not like Whitman's position and called him a racist. Although Whitman kept trying to answer, Copeland kept talking over him and would not let him speak.
Just as Whitman puts callers in "timeout" on his show when they won't let him have his say, he told the engineer to cut off Copeland's microphone. Copeland became incensed and started packing his things to leave the studio.
Then, in great FReeper tradition, Whitman told Copeland not to let the door hit his ass on the way out. He also called Copeland a lunatic.
Then the rain came. Copeland walked over to Whitman and spit in his face. Whitman couldn't believe it. Two others on the KABC staff couldn't believe it.
Whitman had the station call the police and is considering filing assault charges.
Poor Copeland. He may no longer be the Libertarian candidate for governor. An official high ranking representative of the party called in to Whitman and told him that Copeland would be receiving no more backing and they were going to see what they could do to take him off the ballot.
Now that was classic talk radio. The unbelievable happened. A candidate for governor actually showed himself to be a bigger jackass than Gray Davis. Davis has spit on the law but never on Whitman, at least not yet. Brian, get him in studio.
The underlying question is actually something you ought to think about:
Do I really want to become a Libertarian if it means associating with people who behave like you do?
It's a serious question TJ, and one that the LP seems unwilling to ask, much less answer.
Is it Non Sequitur Day?
Article Six, para Two
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
If all else fails, re-read the Fourteenth Amendment, sec One: Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Does that sound like the US Constitution does not apply to the States? Despite Roscoes insistance that judicial activism over-rides the plain language of the Constitution, or yours that a simple majority can meet the Standard for over-riding the Constitution, it means what it says.
"Words mean things". Or did you already forget? Do you really want to be on the side of things that would aruge the meaning of the word "is"?
And we should take you seriously because.....?
This is the Libertarian Problem in a nutshell.
If you can't see the corallary, you are more hopeless than I thought.
What?
And I should take you seriously because...?
Hypocracy is the Bushbots main failing.
Would you care to critque my typing skills some more as a dodge around having to answer fairly pertinant questions?
No. Non Sequitur is a notably clear thinker.
Though I suspect he wouldn't mind having his own Day....
Like I do? How about the same question for you? Do people really want to become/remain a Republican if they behave like Roscoe, CJ, Kevvie Boy and Dane? How about VA Advogado? Are these the poster boys for your movement?
It's a serious question TJ, and one that the LP seems unwilling to ask, much less answer.
The LP needs to ask if I am acting properly? Think about that. It's a serious question.
While Gov. Gray Davis and GOP rival Bill Simon took turns last week bashing a federal court that ruled the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional, a lesser-known gubernatorial candidate praised the decision.Libertarian Gary Copeland, an observant Druid and self-described pagan, told supporters that the court's decision "is long overdue."
"As a practicing Druid (pagan), I have always muted the words 'under God' when I spoke 'The Pledge of Allegiance,' " he wrote.
The U.S. Supreme Court, which last week approved a school voucher program in another case involving church-state issues, gave Copeland another idea, he said.
"What the (vouchers decision) basically said is, it's our time to form a school," he noted. "The schools in England were originally formed by the Druids 3,000 years ago."
OK
You don't see the transfer of logic?
What?
So are you leading me to believe that you would be a Libertarian if we could just get rid of all these tacky people? You agree with libertarian philosophy of governance, it's just that you don't like the people? That's rich.
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