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LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE SPITS IN FACE OF TALK SHOW HOST ON THE AIR
DFU listening to KABC in Los Angeles | 9-8-02 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 09/08/2002 9:22:43 PM PDT by doug from upland

The evening started innocently enough for Brian Whitman, Sunday evening talk show host on KABC in Los Angeles.

He had on his show four minor candidates running for governor of California. Three were on the phone and the fourth, Libertarian candidate Gary Copeland, was in studio.

The conversation eventually turned to illegal immigration. Copeland did not like Whitman's position and called him a racist. Although Whitman kept trying to answer, Copeland kept talking over him and would not let him speak.

Just as Whitman puts callers in "timeout" on his show when they won't let him have his say, he told the engineer to cut off Copeland's microphone. Copeland became incensed and started packing his things to leave the studio.

Then, in great FReeper tradition, Whitman told Copeland not to let the door hit his ass on the way out. He also called Copeland a lunatic.

Then the rain came. Copeland walked over to Whitman and spit in his face. Whitman couldn't believe it. Two others on the KABC staff couldn't believe it.

Whitman had the station call the police and is considering filing assault charges.

Poor Copeland. He may no longer be the Libertarian candidate for governor. An official high ranking representative of the party called in to Whitman and told him that Copeland would be receiving no more backing and they were going to see what they could do to take him off the ballot.

Now that was classic talk radio. The unbelievable happened. A candidate for governor actually showed himself to be a bigger jackass than Gray Davis. Davis has spit on the law but never on Whitman, at least not yet. Brian, get him in studio.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crybaby; jerk; libertarian; spitter
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To: Roscoe
Face it. You are a Democrat Lawyer. Possibly a wife-beater as well.
221 posted on 09/09/2002 11:22:57 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: ThomasJefferson
Ya mean if I'm nice to the criminally insane you will become a libertarian? lol

The underlying question is actually something you ought to think about:

Do I really want to become a Libertarian if it means associating with people who behave like you do?

It's a serious question TJ, and one that the LP seems unwilling to ask, much less answer.

222 posted on 09/09/2002 11:26:00 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Dead Corpse
So if the Constitution does not apply to the States, then how come the DEA can regulate drugs within a State that has legalised them?

Is it Non Sequitur Day?

223 posted on 09/09/2002 11:27:14 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: r9etb
Be that as it may, the Second Amendment refers specifically to what Congress may or may not do w/respect to the RKBA. The 2nd says nothing about what the states, counties, or cities may do with regard to firearms -- which makes it prime 10th Amendment territory.

Article Six, para Two

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

If all else fails, re-read the Fourteenth Amendment, sec One: Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Does that sound like the US Constitution does not apply to the States? Despite Roscoes insistance that judicial activism over-rides the plain language of the Constitution, or yours that a simple majority can meet the Standard for over-riding the Constitution, it means what it says.

"Words mean things". Or did you already forget? Do you really want to be on the side of things that would aruge the meaning of the word "is"?

224 posted on 09/09/2002 11:28:31 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Dead Corpse
Face it. You are a Democrat Lawyer. Possibly a wife-beater as well.

And we should take you seriously because.....?

This is the Libertarian Problem in a nutshell.

225 posted on 09/09/2002 11:29:23 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Cultural Jihad
That's right CJ, that had me falling on the floor! LOL
226 posted on 09/09/2002 11:30:04 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: Roscoe
You don't see the trnasfer of logic? If the States can ignore the US Constitution in regards to the Second Amendment, then why can't the States ignore the Federal Government on drug laws?

If you can't see the corallary, you are more hopeless than I thought.

227 posted on 09/09/2002 11:30:38 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Dead Corpse
You don't see the trnasfer of logic?

What?

228 posted on 09/09/2002 11:31:40 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dead Corpse
LOL, I wondered how and when a discussion of the constitution could pop up on this thread about a guy who spit into someome's face! LOL ROTFL
229 posted on 09/09/2002 11:32:55 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: r9etb
Go back over the first 150+ threads and tell me where that is being any less "rough" than the Usual Suspects were being.

And I should take you seriously because...?

Hypocracy is the Bushbots main failing.

230 posted on 09/09/2002 11:32:57 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: A CA Guy
someome's = someone's
231 posted on 09/09/2002 11:33:42 AM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: A CA Guy
As I've already said, he should be tried for assault. Trying to paint the entire Libertarian Party with the same brush is like saying John McCain is the poster boy for the GOP.
232 posted on 09/09/2002 11:34:03 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Roscoe
"trnasfer". Fumble-finger equivalent of transfer.

Would you care to critque my typing skills some more as a dodge around having to answer fairly pertinant questions?

233 posted on 09/09/2002 11:35:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: justshe; Roscoe

"This is actually a sincere question." she
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Give me a break.
I pinged those clowns because they spout ant-constitutional garbage at every opportunity. -- See your hero roscoes latest, denying that the 2nd must be honored by states. - Incredible. -- And you are no conservative if you support him. - Do you?

234 posted on 09/09/2002 11:35:40 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Roscoe; Non-Sequitur
Is it Non Sequitur Day?

No. Non Sequitur is a notably clear thinker.

Though I suspect he wouldn't mind having his own Day....

235 posted on 09/09/2002 11:36:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Kevin Curry
So why are you pinging me to this? he's not MY candidate. I am not a party member. I have a whole lot of libertarian leanings but I am much more Constitutionalist. I didn't even know the LP's candidate. However, bash away, Kevin. Let the rest of the world see just what a jacka$$ you really are. And I think everyone knows just who it is uses the jacka$$ as their party symbol...

BTW, u gonna whine to the AM that I violated your rights by hurting your widdle feelings?
236 posted on 09/09/2002 11:37:18 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: r9etb
Do I really want to become a Libertarian if it means associating with people who behave like you do?

Like I do? How about the same question for you? Do people really want to become/remain a Republican if they behave like Roscoe, CJ, Kevvie Boy and Dane? How about VA Advogado? Are these the poster boys for your movement?

It's a serious question TJ, and one that the LP seems unwilling to ask, much less answer.

The LP needs to ask if I am acting properly? Think about that. It's a serious question.

237 posted on 09/09/2002 11:38:10 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: A CA Guy
Gary "The Spitter" Copeland, Constitutional "expert":

While Gov. Gray Davis and GOP rival Bill Simon took turns last week bashing a federal court that ruled the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional, a lesser-known gubernatorial candidate praised the decision.

Libertarian Gary Copeland, an observant Druid and self-described pagan, told supporters that the court's decision "is long overdue."

"As a practicing Druid (pagan), I have always muted the words 'under God' when I spoke 'The Pledge of Allegiance,' " he wrote.

The U.S. Supreme Court, which last week approved a school voucher program in another case involving church-state issues, gave Copeland another idea, he said.

"What the (vouchers decision) basically said is, it's our time to form a school," he noted. "The schools in England were originally formed by the Druids 3,000 years ago."


238 posted on 09/09/2002 11:39:21 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dead Corpse
"trnasfer". Fumble-finger equivalent of transfer.

OK

You don't see the transfer of logic?

What?

239 posted on 09/09/2002 11:42:05 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: r9etb
This is the Libertarian Problem in a nutshell.

So are you leading me to believe that you would be a Libertarian if we could just get rid of all these tacky people? You agree with libertarian philosophy of governance, it's just that you don't like the people? That's rich.

240 posted on 09/09/2002 11:42:25 AM PDT by Protagoras
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