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JoeEveryman and the Anti-FReeper Attack on Free Republic
Various Anti-FReeper sites | August 10, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/10/2002 1:29:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The anti-FReepers are on the prowl. As most of you know, there is a group of ex-FReepers who have been dogging us for the last several years. The anti-FReeper community was started several years ago by a group of disgruntled individuals who were banned from FR and then wanted to get back at us by damaging our reputation. This started out as petty name calling and rumor mongering, but they now appear determined to cause us as much harm as possible. Even to the point of attempting to get FR and FRN shut down and the owners and managers of the organizations bankrupted or jailed.

Some of the early members of the group include ex-FReepers Mojo, Aligyrl, Landshark, Z2, Headhunter, LindaM, and others who have come and gone over the years. The most recent additions to active anti-FReeping appear to be ex-FReepers Clarity, Clinton's a Liar and JoeEveryman.

There appears to be a certain love/hate relationship involved here. Some of these people hate FR and its PTB (that's "Powers That Be" in their lingo) with such passion that they cannot stay away. Some of the original members of the AF community have given up and drifted off, some have come back to FR, and some are as determined as ever to kill FR and have me and whomever else they can thrown into prison for whatever crimes they imagine us guilty. Their motivation is pure revenge. Their driving force is hatred.

Their current attack is centered around an attempt to break up the Free Republic Network and, through that angle, to cause as much damage to FR as possible. Unfortunately for all of us, there is a genuine problem with the ex-leader of the South Carolina Chapter. Apparently, there was some money collected for events that was never paid over to the vendors and the chapter leader is accused of taking off with the money. I am not going into all of the gory details here, but I understand that there is an official police investigation ongoing and the SC Chapter and the FRN are cooperating fully with the authorities. The anti-FReepers, led by JoeEveryman, are trying to gain maximum leverage from any fallout from this case and are attempting to use it to bring down FRN.

JoeEveryman ran an FR thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/728856/posts) last week on this subject. I eventually deleted it because it was turning into an anti-FReeper haven and I do not want that on FR. The anti-FReepers have plenty of their own websites to conduct their hate campaign. Those who are interested may find JoeEveryman (posting as "Panjandrum") on the LibertyPost.org forum, now appearing to be the latest home of the anti-FReeper community. I have undeleted the JoeEveryman thread for those who are interested in reading it, but have left it locked. I do not want any more anti-FReeping activity on FR.

JoeEveryman is now banned from Free Republic. It is clear on the thead that he ran here on FR and on this (http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readarticle.cgi?114+1485+0+1) thread on LibertyPost.org that his intent is to bring FR down and to cause us as many legal problems as he can. I cannot see allowing him to do this on my own website.

It appears to me that they are either preparing some sort of lawsuit and or are trying to entangle me, Bob J, FR and FRN into the SC case. None of us had anything to do with whatever wrongdoing may have taken place in SC. The South Carolina Chapter is an independent entity, as are all of the FR chapters, and neither FR nor FRN have any ownership or control over their activities. It appears that the anti-FReepers are trying to break that down. We'll see. FRN is cooperating fully with the authorities and I will too if they ask.

In the meantime, I do not want them scheming on FR so they are banned and will remain banned. I will also ban any other FR members who get actively engaged in this attempt to bring down FR.

A request to all. Please do not drag any of the anti-FReeper stuff to FR. I do not want it here.

Free Republic has withstood many attacks over the years, from both the left and the right and I am confident that we will survive this attack from this Free Republic Haters Association as well.

Thanks for your continued support.

Jim


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Free Republic; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jimroblist; opuslist
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To: TLBSHOW
What are you talking about?

Stop playing stupid. When you first came onto FR you bragged so much about how much you p*ssed off people at DU that it became annoying. JimRob even had to tell you to knock it off.

You know it, I know it, and anyone who's been here longer than you have knows it too.

421 posted on 08/10/2002 8:23:10 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: usconservative

Bob J says!

As a side, I believe there was some antifreeper activity concerning this event in SC. If I am not mistaken, they mentioned a campaign of writing letters to Sauls and Harris urging them not to attend.


US says!

While it is true that this was happening, I simply reject that as an argument. The event's organizers threw out the names of Harris & Sauls at the very beginning of hyping the event, for purposes of promotion and driving up attendance. It was only at the very last minute they finally acknowledged that neither would attend. To me, this smacks of fraud.

The rest of their actions have already been documented. I for one would be more than happy to talk to S.C. law enforcement officials, since I still have copies of everything I've received --- including a freepmail just two days before leaving for S.C. myself that both Sauls and Harris would be there --- when I already knew --- and had it confirmed by a S.C. chapter member, that this would not be the case.

Sorry Bob, it's fraud ... plain and simple. It was deliberate, and FR was duped into being used as a promotional vehicle for the event. I knew it then, I know it now.

,,,,,,,,,

So who do you accuse of fraud? The whole chapter or just one person.




422 posted on 08/10/2002 8:23:38 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
Keep reading DU boy...
423 posted on 08/10/2002 8:25:21 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: usconservative
Unconservative:

It appears I own you an appology.  And when I owe one I fess up and offer one.

I read your original post and frankly it resembled a good many AFer posts that have been placed on the forum recently.  You went into great detail how you were upset at the activities of the chapter in question and made note that at least Jim had followed your advice

I jumped into the fray among other things because of this one phrase toward the end.

I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology from the people who trashed me when I called the event into question, because frankly none of them are big enough to apologize. But YOU I'll gladly stand by.

Can't tell you how many times over the years I've seen someone go after one aspect of this forum or it's interests only to end up with, and I'm Jim Robinson's bosom buddy.

Well, in fairness, I cannot blame you for my error.  I did mistake your post for an AFer post and wish that I could take back the things I said during our exchange.  They were wrong.  I was wrong.  Diotima tried to warn me, and I misunderstood the impact of her statement as well.  So your comments about comprehension were rather accurate, were they not.

I have determined that when I see AFers in the future I'm going after them.  That's why I let loose on you.  Let's just hope I tee of on the real thing next time.

I feel about ten inches tall right now, but then I deserve to.  I applogize.  I was wrong.
 

D1

424 posted on 08/10/2002 8:25:52 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Miss Marple
It is a pity that we agree on so much. I would enjoy debating with classy well informed intelligent folks such as yourself, but it is hard to debate with one with whom you largely agree. Maybe we should take up that execrable steel quota bill again or something, and savage each other just for the fun of it.
425 posted on 08/10/2002 8:26:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: DeadManRunning
Your right and I am dead on right 97% of the time. But the last 4 months its harder because of all the threads here where the President is attacked by his own and the du liberal commies. And anti's too! Sad fact!
426 posted on 08/10/2002 8:29:19 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW

I'M GOING TO HAWAYEE!!!!! YAY! YAY!


427 posted on 08/10/2002 8:30:09 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: usconservative
ok anti-freeper
428 posted on 08/10/2002 8:30:35 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: DoughtyOne
So your comments about comprehension were rather accurate, were they not.

I tried telling ya!!! 3 times! (or was it 4?) Oh hell, who cares how many times it was.

I have determined that when I see AFers in the future I'm going after them. That's why I let loose on you. Let's just hope I tee of on the real thing next time.

Given how they're twisting my words over on that "other site" right now, I might just join ya. ;-)

I feel about ten inches tall right now, but then I deserve to. I applogize. I was wrong.

I'll accept your apology on one condition: spell my name usconservative not unconservative next time?

Peace.

429 posted on 08/10/2002 8:32:18 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: usconservative
Answer the question, who do you blame? You posted the post not me.
430 posted on 08/10/2002 8:32:47 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Torie
LOL! OK...maybe tomorrow we can discuss the steel quota, or the education bill. I have had two martinis tonight so I am not in tip-top form.

I am trying to remember when the tone got so rancourous around here, and it seems to me this started back during the primaries of 2000. It now ebbs and flows according to the events of the day.

I also think that there are some here who are not really interested in debating the issues, but rather are interested in dividing us, and pulling support away from the President. There seem to be quite a few posts from new people that never actually have anything to say other than the same slogans, over and over again.

It is almost like they have a cheat sheet of phrases that they use to sound like a conservative, similar to the seminar callers on C-SPAN. Two years ago I would have thought this was a silly notion, but as our numbers and influence have increased I am thinking this is a real possibility.

431 posted on 08/10/2002 8:33:41 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: TLBSHOW
Keep reading my posts. I've already answered that one. Catch up already!
432 posted on 08/10/2002 8:33:56 PM PDT by usconservative
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To: Torie
While I'm at it, I owe you an appology too. You were right to side with USConservative. I am sorry that I went after you when you supported him.
433 posted on 08/10/2002 8:36:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
It is impossible to dislike you D1 even though I disagree with you on almost everything. You have a good heart and a generous spirit, and I wish you all the best. I mean that sincerely. Cheers. And thanks for the apology, which was totally unnecessary and uncalled for, but nonetheless graceful.
434 posted on 08/10/2002 8:39:44 PM PDT by Torie
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To: usconservative
Dang, the hits just keep on rolling in. The UN was a unintentional. I'd say I appologize, but then that's getting old. I will definately use US in the future. And yes you did try to tell me four times. I have a thick head. Great if you're on my side, not so good if you're not. And terrible if I'm making an ass out myself as I did this evening. Thank you.
435 posted on 08/10/2002 8:40:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: TLBSHOW
Please stop this, ok?
436 posted on 08/10/2002 8:41:26 PM PDT by diotima
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To: TLBSHOW
Why don't you take a short nap before continuing with your irrational rants. You are becoming as delusional as the AF'ers.
437 posted on 08/10/2002 8:41:26 PM PDT by Scuttlebutt
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To: Torie
That was very cheritable of you Torie. My biggest concern when I blow it is that people won't return to the scene of the crime and see my admission. Both of you showed a lot of class with your comments. I am in your debt.
438 posted on 08/10/2002 8:43:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Miss Marple
We have a lot of anti-Bush people here who begin their criticisms with inflammatory rhetoric, and then when they are answered by Bush supporters they accuse us of being nasty.

We also have a few that start their anti government/Bush trash talk and then claim we "misunderstood them" when their lies are exposed. (personal experience with a few)

BTW, I'm not necessarily a Bush Bot but I am a JIMROBBOT. God bless Jim and FR.

439 posted on 08/10/2002 8:53:36 PM PDT by zip
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To: Redleg Duke
Jim, there are so many who would pervert a good thing into their thing. It reminds me of the character who founded the Mormons. He was a Free Mason who tried to turn the organization into a religion, so they threw him out. He went on to take the rituals of Free Masonry and base the Mormon "Secret" Rituals on them. Masons are still paying the price for that.

Both claims are untrue. Which is why JR:

1.Put the kibosh on the Mormon bashing threads.
2. Put the kibosh on the Mason bashing threads.

You're support is appreciated. By JimRob, and all who post here...even myself. However, making claims like these does not help your credibility.

NOTE: I will not respond to any replies to this post.

440 posted on 08/10/2002 8:53:46 PM PDT by uglybiker
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