Feds Arrest Al Qaeda Suspects With Plans to Poison Water Supplies on Them

fox ^ | 7/29/02

[knak]

WASHINGTON

[Spunky]

Let me guess. They were going to use floride ?

They (The City) already put floride in my water.
Do you think it will kill me?;-)

[Timesink]

BTW, back on the morning of 9/11 I did buy about a dozen gallons of bottle water from the grocery store, just as a precaution. At $.59 a gallon, they came in plastic bottles, but more than a third have sprung a leak, although they were stored in an interior closet, where the temp never has ranged beyond 60-80 degrees. Is that normal(cheap materials) after a certain amount of time?

Generally, bottled water has a "drink by" date on it, usually about two years after the date it was bottled. So unless you bought bottles that were right on the edge of expiration (highly unlikely, as tons of consumers buy bottled water in mass quantities because they believe - usually incorrectly - that it's purer than water out of their own taps), they should not have sprung a leak. Check the expiration date on the bottles; it's probably not for over another year, in which case you have every right to take them back to the grocery store and demand a refund or exchange.

[Timesink]

I am coming to beleive that Clinton knew about all this terrorist crap going on in this country, and blessed it, and allowed it to flourish with the agreement that the attacks would happen on the next guys watch. What an evil bastard?

I dunno. I think if he did this intentionally, he was hoping for something to happen on his own watch, so he could "Take charge" and finally have his dearly-desired legacy.

[Timesink]

Yes, but I think it is a watered-down version of what the President wanted. The firings can only occur in times when a national emergency has been declared. Otherwise, the federal union members are still protected from the results of their own incompetence. Unfortunately, we aren't.

Actually, we are:

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
September 14, 2001

Declaration of National Emergency by Reason Of Certain Terrorist Attacks
By the President of the United States of America
A Proclamation

     A national emergency exists by reason of the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center, New York, New York, and the Pentagon, and the continuing and immediate threat of further attacks on the United States.

     NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, I hereby declare that the national emergency has existed since September 11, 2001, and, pursuant to the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), I intend to utilize the following statutes:  sections 123, 123a, 527, 2201(c), 12006, and 12302 of title 10, United States Code, and sections 331, 359, and 367 of title 14, United States Code.

     This proclamation immediately shall be published in the Federal Register or disseminated through the Emergency Federal Register, and transmitted to the Congress.

     This proclamation is not intended to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by a party against the United States, its agencies, its officers, or any person.

     IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this        fourteenth day of September, in the year of our Lord two thousand one, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and twenty-sixth.

                               GEORGE W. BUSH

Of course, the RATS may have weasel-worded the bill so somehow these declarations don't matter when it comes to firing offenses; I haven't seen the bill.

[justshe]

****The fact is that this will make 21 administrative departments and 98 congressional committees obsolete. ****

It is my understanding, also, that there is a duplication of services in many of these departments...ie, intelligence gathering. Thus, by consolidating, efficiency will be maximized and the number of staff will go down, with the goal to save time/eliminate duplication of services/hence, save money.

Fingers crossed.

[jigsaw]

If they do poison our water, bottle it immediately and send it to the Middle East as "A Gift from the USA."

[justshe]

***I'm not sure I want greater governmental efficiency. ***

Ah, come on. Damned if they do, damned if they don't?

[Texasforever]

If people were actually interested in what the Department is about they would go here and learn what it entailes

Homeland security department

This is the Department as it stands now. People that rely on media hyperbole in the guise of ‘analysis” are not reacting from anything other than emotional catch phrases.

[justshe]

Middle management and upper management are not part of federal unions now--at least in the depts I am familiar with. I think you are referring to civil service regs. And Bush absolutely has to have the flexibility to move people around. Right now, if you want to move an employee from one function to another, it takes an incredible amt of paperwork and staff time (hence money) just to accomplish ONE transfer. The FBI and CIA are not restricted by civil service requirements...so why should the HSD have to function under less than optimal conditions.

And if you want the civil service regs changed......talk to Congress. THEY are the ones you legislated them in the first place.

[justshe]

***I dunno. I think if he did this intentionally, he was hoping for something to happen on his own watch, so he could "Take charge" and finally have his dearly-desired legacy.***

And once he had talked the terrorists into submission...a Nobel Peace Prize?

[justshe]

100% agreed. The paranoia is being fed...

[brat]

Why are these people still in our country?

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Bump. Just what we've been dreading all along.

[LibWhacker]

Poisoning a reservoir takes dump trucks worth of contaminant and then dispersing it.

They don't have to be totally successful and kill thousands of people to cause mass hysteria. For example, who would want to drink water from the tap after finding out that even a single truckload of some particularly nasty carcinogen had been dumped into the municipal water supply? Who would even want to wash in it?

I still can't believe our leadership is even willing to run that risk. It's as if they do not fully understand their duty. Ragheads should be interned yesterday.

[eno_]

So when the other cells on the same mission strike, you will be first to call for the disbanding of the DEA and the transfer of resources to anti-terrorism?

[Texasforever]

So when the other cells on the same mission strike, you will be first to call for the disbanding of the DEA and the transfer of resources to anti-terrorism?

Stop worrying. Your stash is safe.

[mindprism.com]

Poisoning a reservoir takes dump trucks worth of contaminant and then dispersing it.

I recall a thought experiment that illustrates how small a molecule is, it ran something like:

If you take a single drop of water and drop it in the oceans of the world, stir THOROUGHLY, and then extract a drop of water-- it would contain (about) 100 molecules from the original drop.

In other words, the ratio of molecules to a drop of water is 100 times denser than the ratio of drops to the worlds oceans.

Take that 'fact' and combine it with the acknowleged 'fact' that if a microscopic piece of radioactive material gets into your body, you WILL get cancer -- may not happen for 10 or 20 years, but it will happen.

So, perhaps you need a teensy disclaimer on your assertion.

[mindprism.com]

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[GiovannaNicoletta]

Byron- I live in an area much like that described in Oregon (only on the East coast) and believe me, it's very easy for a person or a group to lose themselves in the hills and mountains. In fact, this area would be ideal for terrorists to set up some sort of training operation.

I live in a tiny town- one post office, one store, etc., and there are places in the hills surrounding the town where nobody ever goes- nobody except the people who live there.

As a matter of fact, not far from where I live, a group of Muslims have set up their own little community in the backwoods. Their kids go to the schools that they have set up and except for having to get their food at regular stores, they keep entirely to themselves. I believe their "town" is gated, also. After 9/11, they were investigated (I forget the exact name- I think it's something like "Muslims of America") because a mullah of one of the branches of the outfit had visited one or more of the countries that harbor terrorists and had made some veiled threats against the U.S. If it hadn't been for the mullah making threats, they never would have attracted any attention.

[thinden]

Does it seem that the number of traumatic brain injuries, genetic defectives, and freaks of nature is over-represented in the Jihadist population?

not nearly as much as in the Xlinton administration.