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Vanity....Allegations regarding the Elizabeth Smart Case.

Posted on 07/19/2002 10:08:49 PM PDT by Partisan Hack

I have been relatively active on some of the boards regarding the Elizabeth Smart case. As such, I have received numerous e-mails. This one came in just a little while ago. I am providing it for your consideration and comment.

Church or no church I believe ANY parent would have dialed 911 before anything, not run around the neighborhood and calling bishops and all. I realize Mormons are deeply into all this formality but it's their child. Call them after. But before?

Also, there's the matter of all the "people" in the home before the police arrive. I cannot believe that one of those people didn't say.. Wait.. we shouldn't be here now.

Then there's the matter of a kidnapper knowing exactly where the child's bedroom is. I know 14 is not a child, but it is to me. The kidnapper had to pass the parents bedroom not once but twice. Then he allowed her to put her sneakers/shoes on. Would you waste that precious time?

Then there's the matter of the 9 year old waiting two hours before notifying the parents. Tell me, did she really look at the clock? I doubt it. Apparently she was going to the parents room but saw the kidnapper in the house. Where did she see the kidnapper for the second time? Why did he linger in the house with his victim?

We have not heard of anything being taken from the home as in a burglary.. where are the fingerprints? We don't even know if there are any. How did the perp enter the home? If the doors were locked he either had a key or the door was unlocked. I find an unlocked door hard to believe. What was the exit route?

Now as for the child, the 9 year old seeing the perp. She can see he's wearing a "polo" shirt, that he was wearing a jacket, she can see hair on his hands, a hat all this while pretending to be asleep. But no composite? Why wasn't that done?

I have also read that she was in fact questioned by the authorities three times and each time in the presence of her mother.

Any and all information that the public has been fed was contradicted after the fact. Mr Smart himself can not answer a straight question because he doesnt want to jeopardize the case. But yet he goes on a Press Conf. and tells us about a letter that was recieved. A letter the police were, at the time, unaware of. A letter that Uncle Tom FAXED to the police department and today we hear about an E-mail he "accidently" deleted. Again, the police knew nothing.

Now you can laugh about the Enquirer being a rag magazine but they have no fear of anything especially law suits and have, believe it or not, award winning journalists working for them. This alleged "gay" porn found on the Smart computers.. this collection of supposed sexual perversion would destroy them in the Mormon community if proven to be true. When Mr Smart was questioned on it, his answer was not something a "normal" person would say, (in my opinion anyway).

Instead, he said something like.. it's irrelevant or nothing to be concerned with. Someone else might say "that's absurd" or "yeah, so what. I had porn on my computer. Who cares!"

It seems to me that this whole ordeal is either a total sham for money or notoriety or he knows exactly where his daughter is and always has but it's gone beyond his control and now has to play his own game.

In my own opinion, and I stress this as I have no solid proof to back it up, I think this child is alive and now with one of the other wives. I think Smart got himself into severe financial trouble or he was being blackmailed because of his sexual preferences.

These are just a few thoughts of mine so tear it apart if you will but these are my opinions and thanks for asking.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
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To: Lower55
You are sure right on that, we don't have any facts, and we let our selves get carried away, some times, way, away.
Have you ever just taken the time and reread all the posts, the next day, and think, good nite, where did that come from? I have, especially on the Westerfield case. I am out of here for tonite, take care, keep safe.
101 posted on 07/20/2002 12:29:42 AM PDT by calawah98
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To: calawah98
Nite.....yeah I have.. It's a trip.
102 posted on 07/20/2002 12:31:01 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: Lower55
Exactly. I would speculate that my speculation about their speculation is right on, and their speculation about my speculation is pure speculation.

Spec-u-late: To engage in thought (I think).
103 posted on 07/20/2002 12:31:06 AM PDT by poolplayer
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To: poolplayer
Now my tongue hurts from reading that!

I understand that I don't always understand what they understand. But we could at least have an understanding to understand that understanding is a personal matter. Understanding can be better understood if an understanding would be understood from the git-go. Understand?

104 posted on 07/20/2002 12:35:16 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: Lower55
I'm outta here too. It's 2:45 here. Time flies when your speculatin'.

Nice chattin' with y'all. Have a good one.
105 posted on 07/20/2002 12:36:28 AM PDT by poolplayer
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To: poolplayer
u 2 nite.
106 posted on 07/20/2002 12:36:57 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: Lower55
HUH?
107 posted on 07/20/2002 12:37:26 AM PDT by poolplayer
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To: poolplayer
You also..have a good night.
108 posted on 07/20/2002 12:38:25 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: Lower55
All right. This is it. No kidding. I'm really outta here. I think we're all getting goofy for lack of sleep.
Have a good night!
109 posted on 07/20/2002 12:38:57 AM PDT by poolplayer
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110 posted on 07/20/2002 1:47:14 AM PDT by trussell
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To: Partisan Hack
This alleged "gay" porn found on the Smart computers.. this collection of supposed sexual perversion would destroy them in the Mormon community if proven to be true. When Mr Smart was questioned on it, his answer was not something a "normal" person would say, (in my opinion anyway).

Instead, he said something like.. it's irrelevant or nothing to be concerned with. Someone else might say "that's absurd" or "yeah, so what. I had porn on my computer. Who cares!"

I never heard Ed Smart's reply to the gay porn issue. Is this really what he said?

113 posted on 07/20/2002 6:28:26 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Partisan Hack
Thanks for your opinion.

Now go suck eggs.

114 posted on 07/20/2002 6:49:18 AM PDT by Illbay
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Something about this case hasn't seemed right from the begining. Whenever I hear Ed Smart talk I get the same feeling I had whenever Susan Smith would do her fake crying. I hope this isn't an inside the family crime. Did Elizabeth have any good friends beside her sister? Was she really as happy as her parents say? Where is the house that the Smarts were moving too? Is it smaller than the present home? BTW I DO NOT believe the Smarts (not even creepy Uncle Tom) sold Eliazabeth to crazy cousin Elmer in the mountains as a plural wife. IF they had done so there would be no need to call the police. They could simply say that the girl was sent away to relatives and the neighbors would've forgotten all about her.
115 posted on 07/20/2002 7:01:45 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: Bella; Utah Girl
Could this be WHY the mom stated on one of her rare appearances that you can have a life with her?

typo--Word used should have been Can't.

117 posted on 07/20/2002 10:51:27 AM PDT by Bella
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To: Partisan Hack; Lorraine
Good opening post--good thread. The swiftness and sureness with which the SoCal authorities have acted in apprehending a killer/kidnapper have made us all aware of a significant deficiency in the SLCPD. Why, oh, why, no sketch, from a 9 yr old, who is even more observant and articulate than a 5 yr old? Why the footdragging by Dinse? Why the mad chases all over the country seeking the wrong people?

TG the Smarts are staying off TV. Their increasingly bizarre statements and faux letters and emails were distracting, to say the least. Then again, perhaps that is their intent-- to distract the public from the true perps -- "trusted members of the community".
118 posted on 07/20/2002 11:23:49 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: Utah Girl; Bella
And again, I ask you, what the heck is wrong with having the press conferences at the church? Is it because it is the Mormon church, or a religious institution? I've stated my reasons why I don't think the press conferences would be held in front of the Smart home every single day. But since you keep reading some weird conspiracy into everything that happens in Utah, believe what you want to believe.

Any public relations person can tell you that background is a crucial part of any press conference. For example, after 911, all politicians had numerous American flags behind them while addressing the nation.

The background itself is part of the message. The background also enhances the message.

By appearing in front of a Temple, the Smarts are making several statements. One is that they have the power and authority of the Mormon Church behind them. Another is that they --the family--are longtime upstanding members of the Mormon community, an by association, above reproach.

If they moved the venue to a parking lot in front of the Justice Center, e.g., they would be sending a message to the kidnapper that they had the entire justice system on their side, and that the culprit didn't stand a chance.

Public Relations 101. You can look it up.

119 posted on 07/20/2002 11:44:29 AM PDT by Palladin
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To: spore-gasm
Amen!
120 posted on 07/20/2002 12:19:11 PM PDT by Sherlock
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