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Bug for bug: Prosecutors Hire Their Own Entomologist: (Tell Feldman's Expert to BUZZ OFF!!)
Court TV ^ | July 17, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/16/2002 10:37:13 PM PDT by FresnoDA

Bug for bug: Prosecutors hire their own entomologist

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A forensic entomologist provided the strongest evidence yet for David Westerfield, left.

Prosecutors in the David Westerfield capital murder trial have hired a top national forensic entomologist in an apparent attempt to neutralize the defense's strongest argument for acquittal — insect evidence indicating the defendant could not have killed Danielle van Dam.

M. Lee Goff, a professor of forensic sciences at Chaminade University in Hawaii, said that as of Friday morning, he is working for the San Diego District Attorney's office on the case.

"[P]roviding testimony seems to be more important than providing commentary," Goff wrote in an e-mail, explaining why he could no longer comment on the case.

If Goff testifies for the prosecution, he will likely contradict, or at least raise questions about, the testimony of defense expert David Faulkner, who testified last week that insects found in Danielle's decomposed body suggested she had been left outside for a far shorter time than prosecutors claimed.

Danielle, a second-grader who lived two doors from Westerfield, was abducted from her bed the night of Feb. 1. Searchers found her body along a roadside Feb. 27. Faulkner said his analysis showed that flies — which land almost immediately on dead bodies — first infested her corpse between Feb. 16 and Feb. 18. Because Westerfield was under police surveillance after Feb. 5, he could not have dumped her body then.

During Faulkner's testimony, prosecutor Jeff Dusek quizzed him about whether unusually warm and dry temperatures in February might have skewed his results, but Faulkner stood by his findings.

Goff trains FBI agents and has testified in cases across the country, including the trial of serial killer Thomas "Zoo Man" Huskey in Tennessee. He is also the author of "A Fly for the Prosecution: How Insect Evidence Helps Solve Crimes," a book that, according to the Washington Post, "anyone who can get past the gross-out factor will find a fascinating read."

Forensic entomologists are a fairly rare breed in the United States. Richard Merritt, a forensic entomologist and professor at Michigan State University, said he only knew of nine North American experts certified by the American Board of Forensic Entomology. San Diego-based Faulkner does not have a doctorate and is not certified by the board, but both prosecutor Dusek and defense lawyer Steven Feldman have consulted him in previous cases.

Forensic entomology, unlike DNA analysis is "not an exact science," Merritt said, and dueling interpretations of insects found at crime scenes and during autopsy is not uncommon.

"It's not black and white. There's more play because of the environmental factors," he said.

These experts establish the time of a body's first infestation by determining the age of the insects they recover. There are standard life spans for those maggots, flies and sometimes beetles, but temperature can affect how long individual bugs live.

In the "Zoo Man" case, Goff and another forensic entomologist, Neal Haskell, clashed over when insects first entered the corpse of a murdered prostitute. Huskey, a former employee of the Knoxville Zoo, confessed to killing four women in 1992 and pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. At his trial, however, his lawyers suggested that one of the women was killed by someone else. Goff said maggots indicated that Huskey was in custody at the time the woman's body was dumped, but Haskell put the time at a few days before his arrest. The jury deadlocked on the mental illness issue, and Huskey will be retried.

Because each scientist has his own method of determining the life spans, the process can lead to disagreement, Merritt said. Rarely, however, does the disagreement concern the 15-day disparity in the Westerfield case.

"A lot of the disagreements involve a variation in one day, two days," said Merritt. "Not over a week and a half. If it's that big a time, someone screwed up."



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
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1 posted on 07/16/2002 10:37:13 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: MizSterious; spectre; Amore; Travis McGee; BunnySlippers; DoughtyOne; Hillary's Lovely Legs; ...
PING....BUZZZZZZ!!!
2 posted on 07/16/2002 10:37:58 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: FresnoDA
Where were all these EXPERTS for the VINNEY FOSTER CASE? HUH?
3 posted on 07/16/2002 10:40:56 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: FresnoDA
LOL! When this is finished, we're going to see "FresnoDA--The Collection" or "FresnoDA's Greatest Hits". I hope you are going to give your faithful fans a discount:-)

On topic, it sounds like the prosecution is worried.
4 posted on 07/16/2002 10:42:42 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: FresnoDA
Prosecutors in the David Westerfield capital murder trial have hired a top national forensic entomologist in an apparent attempt to neutralize the defense's strongest argument for acquittal

When you don't like what the first guy you hired had to say (David Faulkner) buy another one to say exactly what you want him to.

5 posted on 07/16/2002 10:47:08 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: FresnoDA
Repost from the end of the old thread. I'm still trying to get someone to say I'm nuts.

The following is speculation based on some strange facts.

1. The Police Chief and the DA and Dusek promised us they found blood in the Motorhome and on DW clothes.

2. The evidence is that two stains in those locations do contain the DNA of Danielle.

3. Neither stain was tested with a conclusive test for blood.

4. LE did test other stains with a conclusive test for "human blood" (stairway stain), so they have the right tests available.

5. LE did not have any Danielle blood to "Flake".

6. You can't clone blood.

7. You can clone DNA, use PCR to make as much as you need (start with Danielle's underware)

8. LE did have all the DNA needed to "Flake".

QED 150,000,000,000,000,000 to one odds DW did it.
150,000,000,000,000,000 to one odds DW was framed.
6 posted on 07/16/2002 10:49:37 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: FresnoDA
Thanks for the ping. Looks like Snoozeusek is worried about something Humm?
7 posted on 07/16/2002 10:56:17 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: John Jamieson
3. Neither stain was tested with a conclusive test for blood.

I am confused here. I could have sworn they said the stains on his jacket and on the floor outside the bathroom of the motorhome were blood.

Am I wrong here?

8 posted on 07/16/2002 10:56:22 PM PDT by Spunky
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To: Vidalia
There weren't any maggots in that case, just Clintons ---- ooooh, nevermind.
9 posted on 07/16/2002 10:59:23 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Spunky
Yes. They were never tested with a forensically conclusive test. Just the presumptive test, which means nothing by itself.

THE BLOOD IS A BIG LIE.
10 posted on 07/16/2002 11:02:18 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Spunky
It's going to be very hard to get the new guy to say Falkner missed by 2 weeks or 100%.
11 posted on 07/16/2002 11:04:50 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
I agree JJ. A few days, I can see. But two whole weeks?? There's just no way. Even if the margin of error is 7 days (VERY generous) it still makes it impossible for DAW to have put the body at Dehesa. I think what may happen is they will tear down Faulkner's credibility since he doesn't have enough letters after his name.

This 12 day intermission gives to DA all kinds of time to cook things up till they can force fit evidence. If need be, this would be perfect appeal material.
12 posted on 07/16/2002 11:20:08 PM PDT by Dasaji
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To: FresnoDA
Chaminade University in Hawaii

Chaminade is a top 20 univeristy, I mean top 100, Uhhh top 500? OK it's in the US...

13 posted on 07/16/2002 11:22:55 PM PDT by Drango
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To: Dasaji
If the DA does that, does he have to reopen the 196 cases he used Falkner on? Looks like he's kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place.
14 posted on 07/16/2002 11:32:31 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: FresnoDA
Dusek had to find another expert or DW would have been acquitted, possibly on a directed verdict if Mudd had the guts to do it; which he doesn't. Feldman will obviously hire another expert witness so it will then be 2 experts angainst one expert. If Feldman can somehow, obtain concetions from this new expert, it is all over and Dw will be acquitted. Dusek should have anticipated the problems with Feldman's testimony and had another expert testify during the prosecution case.
15 posted on 07/16/2002 11:51:05 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
The BIG problem is that Dusek has used this guy many times before. Faulkner was hired by Dusek. Dusek has Duseked.
16 posted on 07/16/2002 11:57:46 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Drango
Yes it is a top university - my sister got a scolarship to go there.
17 posted on 07/17/2002 12:58:29 AM PDT by CyberAnt
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To: All
What to do? What to do?

What's a good cop to do?

The DA says he won't arrest Westerfield until we get some good blood evidence with her DNA. We can't find any, anywhere. We all know he did it. We're going to find Danielle out in Glamis one of the days, but the election is coming up soon and the DA is going to lose if we don't arrest somebody. He's got child porno all over his computer, he must of done it. It's not really moral to let him get away is it? The moral thing is to make sure he doesn't get away. But how?

Let's see. There are three basic tests you do for blood. First you do the Hemostix, the presumptive test for blood. Really just tells you it might be blood, but it reacts with lots of other stuff so it's not proof. Then you've got your serology tests; a whole bunch of them. They prove it's blood and human or not, blood type, that sort of thing. Then there's the DNA tests, they can pick out any individual on the planet. But, we don't have any of Danielle's blood.

Idea. If we can just be sure everyone skips the serology tests (heck, they're obsolete in this day and age anyway) we don't need real blood. We have plenty of Danielle's DNA; they'd been cloning it using PCR over at the lab (good thing we have our our lab now, we used to have to send the stuff out). They started with the stain in the underware and made enough to 100's of tests. They'll never miss enough to wet a Q-tip. We still need some red coloring and some ferris-oxide to fool the Hemostix. There's rust everywhere, we'll just mix in a little of that. We'll get the red color for free.

There, a perfect quarter inch spot in the carpet with the Q-tip, now to wipe what's left on that jacket we got from the cleaners. All done, no sweat, now to call the Chief and tell him we found the blood, so he can announce it to the press. I gotta make sure to pass the word: NO serology tests are to be done.

Westy we got you by the nuts now.
18 posted on 07/17/2002 1:58:19 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: FresnoDA
Ping list removal reminder bump.
19 posted on 07/17/2002 3:07:15 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: John Jamieson
I may have made the DNA cloning look too easy here. More PCR research shows that it amplifies "pieces" of DNA. I think these are the 22 seperate samples on that lady's chart. Just trying to figure out if it was done, why and how could it be done.
20 posted on 07/17/2002 4:57:07 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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