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Honda flies steel to U.S. auto plants
Automotive News ^ | July 07, 2002 | Yuzo Yamaguchi

Posted on 07/07/2002 9:13:12 PM PDT by Black Powder

Honda Motor Co. airlifted as much as 200 tons of specialty steel to North America from Japan at the end of June to cover a shortage at its plants here and is poised to airlift 2,000 more tons this month if needed, the company confirmed last week.

The highly unusual and costly measure comes amid a developing shortage of high-quality steel products in the United States after President Bush's decision to curb imports with tariffs of up to 30 percent. By acting to push prices higher, the tariffs have caused spot shortages as steel supplies get diverted to the highest bidder.

"We're still working to procure the steel we need locally, but we're prepared to have steel flown in" if there are shortages when production resumes Monday, July 8, said Ron Lietzke, a spokesman for Honda of America Manufacturing Inc.

Honda's plants in Marysville and East Liberty, Ohio, build the Honda Accord and Civic, and the Acura CL and TL. The plants were shut last week for summer vacation.

Honda also builds the Odyssey minivan in Lincoln, Ala., and the Civic, Odyssey, Pilot, Acura MDX and Acura EL in Alliston, Ontario. It is not clear if those plants have been receiving normal steel supplies.

The decision to airlift steel appears to be under consideration by other Japanese automakers. In Tokyo, Kawasaki Steel Corp. disclosed last week that it had received "urgent requests" in late June from some Japanese automakers, but declined to elaborate.

According to a Japanese press report, Honda procured its steel for the airlift from Nippon Steel Corp., Sumitomo Metal Industries Ltd., Kawasaki and Kobe Steel Ltd.

Honda would not provide details on the unusual arrangement, such as the exact date of the shipment or the destinations. The company did not reveal the amount of steel flown in, but said it was between 100 tons and 200 tons.

The costly move is "a temporary measure," said a Honda official, who declined to be named.

Hefty price tag

It's also an expensive measure. Shipping 2,000 tons of coated sheet steel would require 20 747 flights at a cost of as much as $300,000 per flight, according to Roy Stapleton, a vice president with a GeoLogistics Americas office in Carlstadt, N.J.

Honda's airlifted steel also would be hit with the 30 percent tariff, pushing the cost even higher. In Japan, hot-rolled, zinc-coated 1.6-millimeter steel sheet is quoted at $433 to $442 per ton, but a spokesman for Nippon Steel said the price of auto-quality steel would be higher.

That 2,000 tons of sheet steel would be enough to build about 1,800 vehicles, according to David Anderson, a director with the American Iron and Steel Institute. Honda's Ohio plants build that many cars in a single day.

In Tokyo, Honda spokeswomanNoriko Okamoto said the airlifted steel was only for buffer stocks, and the shortages would not lead to any disruption in production schedules or changes in the production mix.

She did not say precisely what led to the air shipment. "Maybe we didn't anticipate some effects of the tariffs," she said.

Honda buys about 94 percent of its North American steel needs from North American suppliers. The remainder is imported specialty steel.

Four months after the tariffs were announced March 5, the levies are sending pain through the automotive industry. Makers of auto parts, especially stamped parts, were hit almost immediately with skyrocketing prices and spot shortages.

Tariffs causing pain

The tariffs were seen as a way to give U.S. producers an opportunity to raise prices. They had been at a 20-year low, in part because of a torrent of lower-priced steel into the United States. More than a quarter of U.S. steel makers have sought Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

But apparently unforeseen was the negative effect the higher prices would have on supply. Instead of creating additional capacity, brokers and suppliers tend to raise prices or divert shipments to the highest bidder, creating spot shortages.

Steel supplies already were tight because the U.S. industry lost more than 8 percent of its capacity last year with the liquidation of LTV Corp. A fire last December at a Double Eagle plant also has temporarily decreased the domestic supply of some grades of auto steel, according to steel industry executives.

The Big 3 say they have adequate supplies, but a steel industry middleman said the "automakers are butting heads with the steel mills" over prices.

At Toyota Motor Manufacturing North America Inc., which will face significant steel-contract renewals this fall and next spring, an official said its suppliers already are warning it to expect sharply higher steel prices.

Dennis Cuneo, senior vice president of Toyota Motor Manufacturing North America, said Toyota gets about 95 percent of its steel domestically and supply is not yet an issue.

"But several suppliers are trying to push the issue that when their contracts expire, we can expect a 20 to 30 percent price increase," Cuneo said.

$100 per car

"That's $100 million additional increase in North American costs, which comes out to $100 per car. We are definitely concerned about that."

Honda may be using the airlift as a negotiating ploy, in effect saying, "We can bypass your price demands by doing something like this," said Kenji Tanaka, an analyst at Daiwa SB Investments Ltd.

Other analysts agreed that Honda would not cut production even if it has to choose either accepting a price increase by local steel makers or absorbing the higher cost of airlifted steel.

"They will never stop the lines, even if they make less (money)," said Shigeharu Kimishima, an analyst at Kokusai Securities Co. For Honda, the U.S. market is a money generator even if its profit margins shrink.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: honda; steeltariffs

1 posted on 07/07/2002 9:13:12 PM PDT by Black Powder
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To: Black Powder
My next car won't be a Honda.
2 posted on 07/07/2002 9:18:35 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
Dont blame Honda, you have Bush to thank for this idiocy. I hope everybody's enjoying the 100 million dollar subsidy were all providing to the steel industry.
3 posted on 07/07/2002 9:27:08 PM PDT by Blackyce
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To: Cindy
My next car won't be a Honda.

Why? The cars are manufactured by U.S. workers using 95% U.S. produced materials. The stupid tariff that Bush put on the specialty steel was simply pandering for union votes. The U.S. steel companies are simply raising prices, but not keeping up with the necessary production. The few steel workers jobs protected by the tariff are more than offset by the domestic job losses caused by the increased price of materials.

All the current partnerships between Japan and Detroit result in cars that are manufactured with parts from both places. It is improbable that you could buy a car that is 100% American parts and labor today.

4 posted on 07/07/2002 9:32:41 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Blackyce
What do you suggest we do when we have no steel industry, we have a war, and we can't get any steel to build ships, guns, etc?
5 posted on 07/07/2002 9:46:18 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Ford Fairlane
are you suggesting we all bend over to be raped by the steel unions?
6 posted on 07/07/2002 10:02:52 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: Ford Fairlane
If that were an actual threat, )which its not since our biggest suppliers are our closest allies) then I'd suggest we stockpile enough so we could meet short term demands. Given the size of our auto industry, finding steel really wont ever be a problem. This kind of "what if" logic can be applied to any kind of subsidy. Its insane for a free-market country to try and protect a commodity industry. If somebody wants to sell us something for below what it costs us to produce it, then we are being unproductive in making it ourselves.
7 posted on 07/07/2002 10:07:17 PM PDT by Blackyce
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To: Ford Fairlane
What do you suggest we do when we have no steel industry, we have a war, and we can't get any steel to build ships, guns, etc?

i get so sick of hearing this ridiculous tripe repeated ad nauseum by people who have no clue about what they're blathering about

foreign manufactured steel is only about 25% of the u.s. market, about 75% of u.s. needs are met by domestic producers

defense purchases of steel are less than 1% of domestic production

the entire chicken-little argument is nothing but garbage spouted by union goons trying to justify their continued extortion of the rest of us so that they may remain overpaid

joke's on them though, all of those bankruptcies were of unionized producers, and the largest u.s. steel producer, nucor, is thriving and is 100% non-union

8 posted on 07/07/2002 10:11:53 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: Ford Fairlane
In case of war, the lack of steel and other materiel is of little importance. Time is lacking. The next (big) war will be fought with whatever is on hand.
9 posted on 07/07/2002 10:14:22 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: ContentiousObjector; Blackyce
I am not suggesting that we be raped by the steel unions. It is a fact, however that our biggest suppliers of steel are china and japan, both of which are dumping steel at below cost. And i dont consider either one a close ally, especially china. We must maintain some viable production in this country.

It is a very real possibility that our next war will be against the wishes of the majority of the members of the U.N., and they will attempt to enforce embargos against us, and I don't expect the euro-weenies to try to help us out.

10 posted on 07/07/2002 10:17:31 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: AntiScumbag
Caterpillar currently has millions of dollars worth of orders on hold, because they cannot get the steel they need to complete them. That doesn't sound like plenty of capacity to me.
11 posted on 07/07/2002 10:20:39 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: Ford Fairlane
The fictional foreign government handouts used to justify American tarrifs are virtually always fictional.

Japan has the most efficent steel manufacturing in the world, they import RAW ORE and turn it into steel and export it as steel.

and they can still undercut American producers, they are not selling it below cost, they are selling it below AMERICAN cost.

The fact that they can import ore, run it through the foundry and then export it half way around the world and still under-cut American suppliers should say somthing about the quality of American suppliers.

It isn't the fault of the Japanese that unions ruined the American Steel industry.

It isn't the fault of the Canadians that environmentalists ruined the American forestry industry.

Stupid tarifs based on fictional foreign handouts make us look like we are retarded, especially when the washington forks over the largest illegal handouts in the world!
12 posted on 07/07/2002 10:26:42 PM PDT by ContentiousObjector
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To: Ford Fairlane
orders on hold.... doesn't sound like plenty of capacity

what it sounds like is the temporary spot shortage that it is, probably due to the idiotic tariffs which disrupted the market

further, not only doesn't it mean that we don't have plenty of capacity, which we do, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with having "no steel industry", your original point, which remains a favorite fantasy of protectionists and union apologists

13 posted on 07/07/2002 10:41:06 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: AntiScumbag
The owner of SCAT Industries would disagree with you. SCAT is the largest speciality crankshaft manufacturer in the US including all the cranks for the NASCAR engines. He cannot find a foundry in the US to produce steel good enough for his blanks. Five years ago, there were seven foundries that could have done the job. Now there are two (one captive by Mercedes/Chrysler and the other just bought by the Japanese). All the steel he uses for his billet cranks is coming out of the UK. All the forged and casted blanks are coming from China. He would love to buy local but there is not a foundry left in the US that will produce quality he needs. He's a pretty conservative guy and I would love to see him on some talk shows as he'll nail the politicians about selling out this country to foriegn interests.
He'll rant on about how the protectionist bill protects nothing as there is no steel industry left to protect.
14 posted on 07/07/2002 11:09:36 PM PDT by Traction
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To: Traction
as there is no steel industry left to protect.

well, he can rant all he wants, but he'd still be wrong, except with respect to niche markets

perhaps there are more examples of tiny markets out there such as the one he's in, but that doesn't change the fact that 75% of u.s. steel needs are met by domestic producers

15 posted on 07/07/2002 11:25:27 PM PDT by AntiScumbag
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To: Black Powder
Bush is proving to be exactly as stupid as I feared he'd be. Anybody with an ounce of economic literacy would have seen this coming.

Bush Jr. is not only Wimp Jr. - he's proving to be a moron as well. Just what our country needs right now, huh?

16 posted on 07/07/2002 11:35:09 PM PDT by Hank Rearden
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To: Black Powder
Cost to rebuild Bay Bridge could soar

Federal rule requires use of expensive U.S. steel

Sacramento -- The price tag for the new eastern section of the Bay Bridge, currently estimated at $2.6 billion, could climb by hundreds of millions of dollars because of a federal rule requiring the use of steel made in the United States.

San Francisco Chronicle

17 posted on 07/08/2002 11:36:16 AM PDT by jiggyboy
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