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Alberto Fujimori of Peru
philosofy123 | 7/2/02 | philosofy123

Posted on 07/02/2002 9:00:48 AM PDT by philosofy123

Any body with a gut feeling about the politics of Peru, and the liberal media in the US?

I just fail to understand how Peru shows up on our radar as a worthy news? Even after their President, Alberto Fujimori left to live in Japan, the leftists are still after him. Today's NPR provides us with a long drawn out report on how Fujimory's security chief was convicted in taking a bribe! Give me a break, there are people in Washington that are taking bribes every single day, including our ex-President, so how do we waste ink on Peru -- a virtually non existing little country in our news paper?


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I think this case is similar to all the other South American cases. The international left; once they get upset with a leader, who is typically being tough on putting down their plots, they never rest until he is dead or in jail on whatever fabricated charges.
1 posted on 07/02/2002 9:00:48 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123; LarryLied; Clemenza
The left hates Fujimori for the same reason they hate Pinochet he fought dirty against the left( shining path and commies) and won. Conservatives ussually lose in the long term because we play by the rules while the left fights dirty.
2 posted on 07/02/2002 9:04:21 AM PDT by weikel
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While I don't see eye to eye with the left on this subject, I have to wonder why we are willing to support men like Somoza and Montesinos.

Our willingness to embrace the Saudis and Somozas of the world has seriously damaged our credibility.

3 posted on 07/02/2002 9:08:28 AM PDT by AdamSelene235
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This guy from my memory had restored law and order, and economic boom in Peru. The other guy is Carlos Menem of Argentina, during his rule, Argentina was so prosperous that its currency was pegged to the US dollar, and even attempted to copy their social security system. Now, the whole country is in chapter 11? How is it that no one brings comparison between Menem’s Presidency, and the people after him?
4 posted on 07/02/2002 9:11:13 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: AdamSelene235
Saudi Arabia is whole different story. They are out to destroy us. They hate us, and incite others to hate us. Somoza, Pinochet, others simply wanted to force law and order, and suppress the leftists, Cuban inspired movements.
5 posted on 07/02/2002 9:16:40 AM PDT by philosofy123
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Saudi Arabia is radical they want to take over the world and impose a whack ideology and religion just like the commies( we should treat Saudi Arabia the way Ghenghis Khan treated his enemies thats the only way you'll scare the rest of the Muslims into giving up terrorism). Pinochet and Fujimori just fought dirty protecting freedom against leftist and communist.
6 posted on 07/02/2002 9:26:18 AM PDT by weikel
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Alberto Fujimori gave the left a choice.Stop the bombing, stop the terrorism, shut up, mind your own business and the government won't bother you. Don't do that and we will destroy you.

The left thought the military action needed would bankrupt the country and lead to their ascent to power. The also doubted he would do it.

They were wrong.

7 posted on 07/02/2002 10:36:21 AM PDT by LarryLied
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Somoza, Pinochet, others simply wanted to force law and order, and suppress the leftists, Cuban inspired movements.

The law and order they wished to force where kleptocracies that no American would tolerate.

8 posted on 07/02/2002 10:40:23 AM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: weikel
Bingo! They hate Fujimori because he defeated the commies.
9 posted on 07/02/2002 10:52:25 AM PDT by Kermit
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Yeah, remember how Maddie "I am not the cleaning lady" Albright kept pushing for Toledo and excoriating Fujimori. The Colombian government should take their cues from Fujimori and do to the FARC what Fujimori did to the neo-Maoists in Peru.
10 posted on 07/02/2002 11:45:21 AM PDT by Clemenza
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The law and order they wished to force were kleptocracies that no American would tolerate.

Not Pinochet. He invited Freidman's "Chicago Boys" down to Santiago to introduce free market reforms. Chile has a private Social Security system as a result. Grape pickers who never thought they would be able to save a dime have ten or twenty thousand tucked away now. That has been a boon for the Chilean economy as the money has been invested in the economy and created jobs.

Allende was the thief. A traitor too. Thousands of secret police from Cuba, East Germany and Czechoslovakia were in the country on his invitation. Had Pinochet not acted when he did (with great reluctance by the way), Chile would have become another Cuba or Cambodia.

11 posted on 07/02/2002 11:57:07 AM PDT by LarryLied
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Not Pinochet.

I'm not as up on Pinochet as I am Somoza.

In the latter case, I think we need to acknowledge our mistakes and treat others as we would wish to be treated.

Ending collaboration with the House of Saud would be a simple start.

12 posted on 07/02/2002 12:50:27 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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And I'm not up to speed on Somoza...lol

The sad fact of the matter is America had no choice but to become allies with authoritarian regimes in order to defeat totalitarian ones during the Cold War. We did spell out what we were doing. Some, such as Pinochet, were good authoritarians who reformed their countries and stepped aside for free elections. Others were not.

All the mideast regimes are a hold over from the Cold War. We wanted to reform them but the time was never right. The Soviets were always threatening and, in many cases, we knew encouraging elections would lead to even worse leaders gaining power (think Arafat is not going to be elected in a landslide this winter if they hold elections?).

Now we don't want to dare disrupt our oil supplies. We should have a crash program to open up all domestic sources of energy but Democrats will not support that. Lieberman threatened to filibuster opening up a measly 2,000 acres in a part of Alaska not one American in 1,000 has ever seen or cares to see. Makes no sense to me. The less money we send to the Saudis, the better.

13 posted on 07/02/2002 1:12:09 PM PDT by LarryLied
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