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New Cellular Evolution Theory Rejects Darwinian Assumptions (Actual Title)
University of Illinois News Release ^ | 6/17/02 | Jim Barlow

Posted on 06/17/2002 4:40:34 PM PDT by Nebullis

CHAMPAIGN, Ill. — Life did not begin with one primordial cell. Instead, there were initially at least three simple types of loosely constructed cellular organizations. They swam in a pool of genes, evolving in a communal way that aided one another in bootstrapping into the three distinct types of cells by sharing their evolutionary inventions.

The driving force in evolving cellular life on Earth, says Carl Woese, a microbiologist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, has been horizontal gene transfer, in which the acquisition of alien cellular components, including genes and proteins, work to promote the evolution of recipient cellular entities.

Woese presents his theory of cellular evolution, which challenges long-held traditions and beliefs of biologists, in the June 18 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Cellular evolution, he argues, began in a communal environment in which the loosely organized cells took shape through extensive horizontal gene transfer. Such a transfer previously had been recognized as having a minor role in evolution, but the arrival of microbial genomics, Woese says, is shedding a more accurate light. Horizontal gene transfer, he argues, has the capacity to rework entire genomes. With simple primitive entities this process can "completely erase an organismal genealogical trace."

His theory challenges the longstanding Darwinian assumption known as the Doctrine of Common Descent – that all life on Earth has descended from one original primordial form.
"We cannot expect to explain cellular evolution if we stay locked in the classical Darwinian mode of thinking," Woese said. "The time has come for biology to go beyond the Doctrine of Common Descent."

"Neither it nor any variation of it can capture the tenor, the dynamic, the essence of the evolutionary process that spawned cellular organization," Woese wrote in his paper.

Going against traditional thinking is not new to Woese, a recipient of the National Medal of Science (2000), and holder of the Stanley O. Ikenberry Endowed Chair at Illinois.

In the late 1970s Woese identified the Archaea, a group of microorganisms that thrive primarily in extremely harsh environments, as a separate life form from the planet’s two long-accepted lines – the typical bacteria and the eukaryotes (creatures like animals, plants, fungi and certain unicellular organisms, whose cells have a visible nucleus). His discovery eventually led to a revision of biology books around the world.

The three primary divisions of life now comprise the familiar bacteria and eukaryotes, along with the Archaea. Woese argues that these three life forms evolved separately but exchanged genes, which he refers to as inventions, along the way. He rejects the widely held notion that endosymbiosis (which led to chloroplasts and mitochondria) was the driving force in the evolution of the eukaryotic cell itself or that it was a determining factor in cellular evolution, because that approach assumes a beginning with fully evolved cells.

His theory follows years of analysis of the Archaea and a comparison with bacterial and eukaryote cell lines.

"The individual cell designs that evolved in this way are nevertheless fundamentally distinct, because the initial conditions in each case are somewhat different," Woese wrote in his introduction. "As a cell design becomes more complex and interconnected a critical point is reached where a more integrated cellular organization emerges, and vertically generated novelty can and does assume greater importance."

Woese calls this critical point in a cell’s evolutionary course the Darwinian Threshold, a time when a genealogical trail, or the origin of a species, begins. From this point forward, only relatively minor changes can occur in the evolution of the organization of a given type of cell.

To understand cellular evolution, one must go back beyond the Darwinian Threshold, Woese said.

His argument is built around evidence "from the three main cellular information processing systems" – translation, transcription and replication – and he suggests that cellular evolution progressed in that order, with translation leading the way.

The pivotal development in the evolution of modern protein-based cells, Woese said, was the invention of symbolic representation on the molecular level – that is, the capacity to "translate" nucleic acid sequence into amino acid sequence.

Human language is another example of the evolutionary potential of symbolic representation, he argues. "It has set Homo sapiens entirely apart from its (otherwise very close) primitive relatives, and it is bringing forth a new level of biological organization," Woese wrote.

The advent of translation, he said, caused various archaic nucleic-based entities to begin changing into proteinaceous ones, emerging as forerunners of modern cells as genes and other individual components were exchanged among them. The three modern types of cellular organization represent a mosaic of relationships: In some ways one pair of them will appear highly similar; in others a different pair will.

This, Woese said, is exactly what would be expected had they individually begun as distinct entities, but during their subsequent evolutions they had engaged in genetic cross-talk – they had indulged in a commerce of genes.



TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: archaeology; creation; crevolist; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; history
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To: Ahban
On the posts I have been dealing with, the naturalists have lost on this thread, and lost decisively.

Naturalist. That's a good label. Those with whom you are debating argue their point not with the objective dispassion of science but with the emotional zeal of religion.

Materialism/atheism/naturalism is a superstition. As misguided as the poor pagans were, it is more rational to believe in a Greek pantheon of gods than to assume we exist by accident.

241 posted on 06/30/2002 6:40:39 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: gore3000
I've put the blues behind me and I've never felt cleaner!

I think you can declare victory, too.

242 posted on 06/30/2002 6:43:49 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: balrog666
So, I was right and you haven't looked it up.

Why don't you look it up for your friend? You guys are so arrogant that you expect your opponents to be both the prosecutor and the defenders of evolution! None of you back up what you say because you folk are always throwing garbage out to see if something will stick. That is why can't back it up, because you folk just plain lie and think you can intimidate your opponents with insults if you get caught.

243 posted on 06/30/2002 6:54:05 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Tribune7
Materialism/atheism/naturalism is a superstition.

Yup, it is not even a valid philoshy. It cannot account for what makes us human - art, thought, conscience, logic, mathematics, and even philosophy itself.

244 posted on 06/30/2002 6:58:36 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Ahban
On the posts I have been dealing with, the naturalists have lost on this thread, and lost decisively. . . It was a good win for truth, and I am going to cut and paste my exchanges on this thread into a doc. file for reference.

Delusional. Save the rest of the thread, too. Someday perhaps the scales will fall from your eyes.

245 posted on 06/30/2002 7:01:54 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Jeff Gordon
No, that doesn't help at all. In fact it was a total waste of time since it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. If it's a cute metaphore, it makes a few glaring errors. Are you a software engineer? I am.
246 posted on 06/30/2002 7:07:34 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: Frapster
Sure. An evolutionist is one who believes that biological entities developed over a long period of time from a non-living source. There are actually many definitions of 'evolutionist'. I am just fascinated by the way in which people point an accusatory finger at their opponent labeling them "creationist" as if we are all supposed to gasp and shriek in horror as though some horrific monster had just been unmasked.
247 posted on 06/30/2002 7:10:10 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: donh
Please submit your proof that "replication with error in order to generate the information needed for the organism to evolve." Is some sort of essential stumbling block to the natural origins of life.

You are really funny! Do dead people "replicate", do rocks "replicate"? You have to be alive to replicate. The phony evolution 'magical force' does not work in the case of abiogenesis. Stop making a fool of yourself.

BTW speaking of proof - when you are you going to tell us one of the 'many scientific hypothesis' of evolution?

248 posted on 06/30/2002 7:17:23 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: donh
I don't know about anyone else, but I have yet to see any scientific work which demonstrates that non-living matter can self-assemble, simultaneously acquire the ability to convert raw energy into a usable form, and subsequently increase in biological complexity to the point that it becomes self-aware. When you run across that experiment, be sure to send it my way. Thanks.
249 posted on 06/30/2002 7:20:46 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: VadeRetro
Delusional.

Yup Vade, you are delusional or perhaps you have not been reading the thread or are lacking in reading comprehension. Your buddies cannot give a hypothesis for abiogenesis, they cannot tell us how a program can be randomly mutated, they cannot tell us how an event which has one chance in 20^500000 of happening occurred not just once but 3 times according to the scientist who you folk regard so highly. So yes Vade, you really need to get some rest, maybe your mind will clear up.

250 posted on 06/30/2002 7:24:51 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: PatrickHenry
Blue-skipping placemarker.
251 posted on 06/30/2002 7:31:50 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: gore3000
do rocks "replicate"?

Yes, it's called "crystallization".

252 posted on 06/30/2002 8:20:10 PM PDT by apochromat
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To: apochromat
do rocks "replicate"? -me-

Yes, it's called "crystallization".

Real funny! Guess they have little crystals!

253 posted on 06/30/2002 9:15:29 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
I've told you who the Nobelists were. Your ingnorance could be remedied by evolving up to using simple tools such as newspapers.
254 posted on 06/30/2002 9:15:54 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: PatrickHenry
Waiting to hear the 'scientific' hypothesis of abiogenesis placemarker.
255 posted on 06/30/2002 9:18:26 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: gore3000
Guess they have little crystals!

Yes, if a grown crystal goes through a physical stressing process, little crystal pieces break off. Take falling icicles, for example.

256 posted on 06/30/2002 9:29:32 PM PDT by apochromat
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To: gore3000
Stalactites create separate stalagmites, but you didn't previously specify that the crystal replication has to be detached.

Generally speaking, crystals can break up and create new seed crystals in the process. Genes are quasi-crystalline.
257 posted on 06/30/2002 9:51:44 PM PDT by apochromat
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To: gore3000
Waiting to hear the 'scientific' hypothesis of abiogenesis placemarker.

Waiting to hear Gore3000's apology to everyone for his lies (just his latest ones) placemarker.

258 posted on 07/01/2002 8:47:51 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: usconservative
Try starting in Genesis 1:1. Let me know when you've finished the chapter.

I've read it and read it and read it. There are no explanations as to how there.

259 posted on 07/01/2002 2:36:30 PM PDT by laredo44
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To: That Subliminal Kid
I don't know about anyone else, but I have yet to see any scientific work which demonstrates that non-living matter can self-assemble, simultaneously acquire the ability to convert raw energy into a usable form, and subsequently increase in biological complexity to the point that it becomes self-aware. When you run across that experiment, be sure to send it my way. Thanks.

When you run across a proof that spontaneous assembly is the only possible way life could have came to be, be sure to send it my way. Thanks.

260 posted on 07/01/2002 3:32:45 PM PDT by donh
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