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May 17 2002 | Friso Stammen

Posted on 05/17/2002 6:08:18 AM PDT by knighthawk

There appeared a thread yesterday:

Fortuyn favoured depraved

It said that Pim Fortuyn was 'a powerful advocate or paedophilia'. The article in the Scotsman is based on an 1999 column of Pim Fortuyn.

The article there leaves out the things that make one understand what he is saying.

1. If it was true this was such a vile column, Elsevier would have never allowed it to be printed
2. If it was true this was such a vile column, the media an left parties would have brought it to the attention of people months ago. And by doing so stopping Fortuyn cold in his tracks before he could break down the left
3. If it was true this was such a vile column, and he is a sexual pervert, then way did nobody claimed the 2250 dollar reward a leftist organization awarded the first man that could bring out information about Fortuyn's sexual past that would descredit him. Not ONE single person managed to come up with anything.

I a furious, not about the article, but they way it was presented and pinged around.

This is exactly what led to the death of Pim Fortuyn in the first place, the demonization of the media and politicians, who lied and published selected half-true things, leaving out the rest.

He was murdered by a man who thought that shooting so was a good thing to do.


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To: knighthawk
Don't you dare go! I consider you my friend. Your posts are always intelligent, thoughtful and insightful, and we freepers would lose so much if you leave.

Don't let people, who, in their viciousness and myopia, felt some vindictive desire to kick a dead man who cannot defend himself.

You are well-loved here, knighthawk. Please reconsider.

61 posted on 05/17/2002 8:20:35 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: knighthawk
Add my name to the list of those who would like for you to remain on Free Republic.

These are, undoubtedly, highly emotional times for all the citizens of the NL especially the supporters of the LPF. I concur with those that recommend you take a few days off to grieve and reflect on all that has happened there in the NL.

I, for one, was counting on you to let us know where the people of the NL go from here.

62 posted on 05/17/2002 8:57:03 AM PDT by 4Freedom
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To: knighthawk
I've read your posts with great interest, since you come off as very knowledgeable about your subject. That rates my respect.

I also read the article to which you object, and found it quite suspicious. It seems like a hit piece on a man already dead. They must really fear something if they do that.

And someone on FR must really fear you, too, if they posted that. That means you're doing good work, and I hope you keep it up. You've earned your right to post here, and have my respect for your thoughtfullness and honesty. Don't let the bastards run you off.

Take a few days off to recharge, and gain new perspective. Then come back and add your thoughts to all the quality discussion that goes on here.

63 posted on 05/17/2002 9:05:56 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: knighthawk
I wish you'd stay. We need someone such as yourself to keep us up to date on the European conservative movement.
64 posted on 05/17/2002 9:13:46 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: knighthawk
Knighthawk don't leave..

I for one look forward to your ping's...

65 posted on 05/17/2002 9:21:22 AM PDT by Dog
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To: knighthawk
Well, it's your choice, of course, but speaking for myself I'll miss your posts. FR is a big tent with no real entrance requirements, so you have to expect the occasional cockroach using it to further his or her own personal obsession. There's been worse, believe me.

Lurk for awhile and let some scar tissue grow. Then come back. Illegitimus non carborundum...

66 posted on 05/17/2002 9:36:30 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: knighthawk
I hope you reconsider. You're a great asset to us here. You would be missed.
67 posted on 05/17/2002 10:09:39 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: knighthawk; Billthedrill
---Well, it's your choice, of course, but speaking for myself I'll miss your posts. FR is a big tent with no real entrance requirements, so you have to expect the occasional cockroach using it to further his or her own personal obsession. There's been worse, believe me.

Lurk for awhile and let some scar tissue grow. Then come back. Illegitimus non carborundum...---


Well Said, Bill
I must agree 100%

Knighthawk: Please take Bill's advice J

Note: ----Illegitimus non carborundum---
(Don't let the Bastard grind you down)
Should Read: Illegitimi non tantum carborundum
(Don't let Any of the Bastards grind you down)
Just a suggestion :)

68 posted on 05/17/2002 10:09:45 AM PDT by Fiddlstix
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To: knighthawk
When I have more time, perhaps tomorrow, I will let you know why you should stay and fight. A short reply would not do justice right now. Do not let someone's death be in vain. The conservative movement MUST spread in Europe. It is it's last hope. And you must remain here to keep us informed.
69 posted on 05/17/2002 10:15:05 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: knighthawk
Plz stay I said it was leftist spin don't let the ignorant social socialist conservatives get you down.
70 posted on 05/17/2002 10:26:27 AM PDT by weikel
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To: knighthawk
How could someone like you ever leave FR. The greatest freedom we have in this country and the internet is the freedom of speech. There is a cost of course for that freedom and that is enduring ideas that you do not agree with or like. Your webpage is very moving and you must realize that those people died because America enjoys the freedoms of expression that tyrants fear.

Pray for GW and America

71 posted on 05/17/2002 10:44:24 AM PDT by bray
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To: knighthawk
Don't leave! (Or just take a short break) You are one of the best posters here! And without you, our discussion about Europe surely would be much different - for the worse.

And your essays are excellent. Here's one of your earlier one, for old times sake.

The demonization of Pim Fortuyn, the Dutch up and coming politician (March 13)

72 posted on 05/17/2002 11:23:39 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: knighthawk
I've enjoyed your contributions and hope to see you again on the web.
73 posted on 05/17/2002 11:33:02 AM PDT by KC Burke
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To: knighthawk
I don't get it. You're leaving because someone posted something you disagreed with?
74 posted on 05/17/2002 11:37:15 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: knighthawk
This is exactly what led to the death of Pim Fortuyn in the first place, the demonization of the media and politicians, who lied and published selected half-true things, leaving out the rest.

And this is exactly why you must stay with us, friend. No one here would have known anything about Fortuyn, other than the smears in the lamestream media, were it not for you.

I would implore you to take the advice of several others on this thread - take some time off, but then come back.

Some of the content on this board, as well as some individual posters, can be really aggravating. Don't let them "win" by driving you away.

75 posted on 05/17/2002 11:37:39 AM PDT by facedown
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To: Rebelbase;knighthawk
Rebel said, Most of the time the replies are a mixture of "good riddence", "don't let the door....." and an occasional "we'll miss you".

Instead you are being praised. There is no shame in coming back.

Dittos. I never respond to opii, but yours is different, knighthawk. Not only did you make a valid point, but almost everyone agrees you must stay and fight.

So, you must. : )

76 posted on 05/17/2002 11:38:59 AM PDT by SKempis
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To: knighthawk
Could you start a FreiNederland (sp?) site? That would be constructive. Obviously, you're not the only conservative-minded person in the Kingdom.
77 posted on 05/17/2002 12:10:51 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
PS, I've always looked forward to seeing your posts.
78 posted on 05/17/2002 12:15:41 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: knighthawk
I don't like to see anyone go. I don't agree with everything everyone on this forum says. In fact I think some regulars on this forum are despicable. However, that said, I think you are suffering from Seasonal Affective Disorder and could use some light therapy, or perhaps a move to a country with a longer summer season. (Just kidding! I have a bent toward introspection myself!)
79 posted on 05/17/2002 12:26:36 PM PDT by Grim FReeper
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To: knighthawk
Along with so many others, let me ask you to reconsider.
80 posted on 05/17/2002 12:37:36 PM PDT by dighton
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