1 posted on
05/11/2002 12:21:01 PM PDT by
Garegaupa
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To: Garegaupa
My daughter doesn't want to join the military, because it would be too tough on her manicure. Also, she finds the outfits to be unfashionable.
BTW, I just think it would be nice if Christian men were as nice inside their homes as they are at church. I'm becoming quite jaded by the number of crabby, bossy Christian husbands and fathers I've seen lately. (I know, here comes the barrage about Christian wives not being what they should be, either.)
To: Garegaupa
I(both as an atheist and as a woman) would like to know how a woman is not mentally suited for the military? Trying to figure out that answer just about made my little ole brain bust!!
4 posted on
05/11/2002 12:29:06 PM PDT by
cali4ever
To: Garegaupa
The ONLY reason for having women in combat positions is to enhance the morale of the enemy. PERIOD!!!!!
7 posted on
05/11/2002 12:35:57 PM PDT by
Waco
To: Garegaupa;LadyX;CheneyChick;AFVetGal;SK1 Thurman;OneidaM
Please keep in mind that there are active duty women FReepers and lurkers on Free Republic.
Also MANY female vet FReepers.
They serve or have served our country and deserve respect for their service.
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To: Garegaupa
I feel a woman who wants to join the armed forces, should be allowed to do so. I believe if she wants to fight on the front lines, she should be able to train and keep up the pace with the men. No pandering lighter duty for the females who want to fight. If a woman does not want to fight along side the men, then she is needed in numerous other phases of the armed forces, and, will do exceedingly well. Front line duty should be critical. When it comes to the heavy combat training, you either cut it or you don't.
To: Garegaupa
The point is, it's the woman's choice, not yours. 'Protect and cherish' is what we do to children, not other adults. Unless we're Liberals, of course.
15 posted on
05/11/2002 12:52:05 PM PDT by
Grut
To: Garegaupa
"Since this view (as far as I can see) hasn't come up too often in the debate over whether women should serve in the military or not, I'm starting to wonder if I'm the only person left on the planet who thinks this is a good principle. "
You just missed it. It has come up.
To: Garegaupa
It all boils down to hormones.
For those females that just have to go to war, just give em a testosterone patch and let em go.
Or put them in positions where their current hormonal make up is appropriate to the job. A lot of women have served with great distinction in the Military, but not on the front lines in hand to hand combat with enemy men.
Its not nice to argue with or to ignore Mother Nature. And this is not an argument, it is a fact that is just conveniently ignored.
A lot of females out there (and a lot of feminized men)are under some new age delusion that men and women are equal. Not so. Not now, not ever. Get over it.
Men rule the world, women rule the men.
Theres a reason for the phrase "opposite sex".
But if a woman really wants to be treated equally, then her constitution should be equal. And that requires a Testosterone patch, which can easily be applied.
21 posted on
05/11/2002 1:01:04 PM PDT by
Pylot
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To: Garegaupa
Anyone who has ever seen men die in combat does not need another reason to keep women out of combat.
To: Garegaupa
IMO, all BATF, DEA, FBI, IRS agents should be 100% women. Weak, fat, ugly feminazis. All Home Defense personnel should be 100% women. All of them weak, fat and ugly feminazis.
To: Garegaupa
As a christian ,husband , father, grandfather I get to weigh in on this big time. I have a daughter who is in the army she is curently on serving in Afghanistan. While she is over there my wife and I are careing for our two year old grandaughter. My daughter got pregnant while on duty in S. Korea during her first tour overseas. Her useless E-7 of a sprem donor will have nothing to do with his own little girl. Whenever you take young people and send them far away from home, they will do things that young people do and they will do them with far less inhibitions than if they were here at home. They will try to prove thier adulthood every chance they get. The more men and women are thrown together far from home the more problems arise. As of today she is at the Kandahar airbase living in a tent with the rest of her unit, there is one other female in her unit shareing a tent with about twenty guys!!! The only thing seperating them is a couple of blankets hung on ropes. Not only is this a great recipie for sexual harrasment complaints and or emotional entanglements but one for population growth. The last thing a combat unit needs is to function with this going on in the background. Combat units are a mans world where women aren't really welcome, men will be crude, vulgar and behave like animals and this will be offensive to the ladies. To be an effective fighting force we need our men to behave like men, if political correctness gets into the foxhole we will no longer be fielding warriors but panzies.
To: Garegaupa
This will be argued along the wrong lines for all eternity. There is a much more practical argument that I do not see happening.
Look at the mathemetics. When we are talking war, we are talking about the potential decimation of an entire population. No country can be strong, militarily, without a sizable population.
How does a population get preserved, let alone recovered? Well by reproduction. A man can sire another human at least once a week, maybe twice a week. A woman can produce another human, at the most, once a year.
That little fact makes her at least one-hundred times more valuable than a man in terms of regenerating a population during and/or after a war.
To waste her in a stupid combat role is idiocy of the first order, in spite of the lunacy of Patsy Schroeder!
To: Garegaupa
Until every able-bodied man overwhelms the recruiters, women will continue to pick up the slack caused by men who don't join the service. Active duty women are not seeking ground combat positions--DACOWITS is. I'm sure that if all combat areas were open to all volunteers, very few women would apply. My shipmates and I would shake our heads in disbelief every time DACOnitWITS would release a report saying that women in the military felt discriminated against for being kept out of combat roles. We felt no such thing! By the way, how long did you serve on active duty?
To: Garegaupa
Random fact of the day:
Dr. Ruth (yes, the sex therapist) was trained as a sniper by the IDF.
To: Garegaupa
This is an excellent source to support your argument. It's the Center for Military Readiness and is very much against women in combat. Notice how many lawsuits the women in the military file against their superiors.
Center For Military Readiness
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To: Garegaupa
I agree with your view.
92 posted on
05/11/2002 7:21:53 PM PDT by
Bigg Red
To: Garegaupa
has been said about women lacking the necessary physical strength and endurance,Let me tell you something. If I were to be some hot shot in need for body guards guess what I will be only hiring...exactly, only women. It is proven that women are more agressive in their duty when the "honcho" is a male(Ghadafy comes to mind, his entire personal detail are women) and vice versa.
OTOH in combat situations(all out war),women will have some pretty tough times against male counterparts to the same degree. I am 6'5" 300lbs second DAN in karate do trained to kill(4 years military service duty)on a whim. Give me your strongest women to counter me!(Janet Reno excluded)
I still get a good laugh when a 5,5 little CHP officer pulls me over.You should see the look on their faces!Priceless
You draw your own conclusion from my statement.
100 posted on
05/11/2002 8:31:44 PM PDT by
danmar
To: Garegaupa
A society that sends its women into battle would reduce its ability to survive because women lost or seriously maimed in battle would be unable to birth and nurture future generations.
Even one, lone surviving man returning from battle could impregnate a village of women, thereby ensuring the continuation of the tribe.
But one, lone surviving woman would not be able to give birth to enough babies in a lifetime to replace the losses of battle, and her tribe would die-out, conquered by a more fecund foe.
In the course of ages, tribes whose men and women had an inborn aversion to sending women into battle, were the tribes that survived, and hence mentally heatlhy, unbrainwashed men and women today have an instinctive aversion to sending women out to fight.
But the left does not want to believe that behavior is ingrained.
And where weak-minded people may be propagandized into sending women to fight, those same people will pay a price in mental health for going against their inner wishes.
To: Garegaupa
Let women go. We don't fight wars anyway. It doesn't take a man to be in the Army these days; what, with passing out meals and playing world-cop, as we do. Since 1945, we don't know what war is. We refuse to declare it, and we won't fight like we intend to win. We fight like we don't want to make the enemy upset at us. For these world group-hugs, send the women. Real men prefer to fight.
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