Plainfield, Indiana arab killed in crash, has three IDs and four checkbooks with different names.

WIBC-AM radio, AP ^ | May 7, 2002 | AP

[caddie]

By the Associated Press

[WIBC News] - The Indiana State Police are investigating why a man killed in a car crash was carrying three identifications and four checkbooks with different names.

Police initially thought there were two occupants in the car that crashed late Sunday, killing Q. Naim Abdullah, 24, of Plainfield.

State police troopers and volunteer firefighters searched the high weeds and mud at the scene of the crash on Interstate 65 in southern Bartholomew County, but no one else was found.

Abdulla was traveling northbound at a high rate of speed, swerved to miss a tractor trailer and lost control, striking the median and rolling the vehicle several times, police said. He was not wearing a seat belt.

The FBI assisted in determining the correct identification of the driver and notifying the family.

[Cold Heat]

The only one who gave a solid condemnation that I can think of. The rest equivocated!

[null and void]

'SOK, written communication is fraught with perils. I'm glad I was able to clear it up so you didn't fume all night (Been there, done that!)

You have a pleasant evening, I enjoyed our talk and look forward to many more...

[null and void]

Ya think fear of their "bretheren" may have something to do with the equvocation?

I'm taking my cue about the comfort level I should feel from that perception...

[Don Myers]

"Me thinks there is still a severe infestation, but sleep well knowing the INS and FBI are on the job."

There is a very large place for the armed citizen in this equation.

[null and void]

I think that the US Supreme Court will ultimately decide that the necessity to crack the vast Islamic conspiracy to overthrow the US trumps the 1st Amendment right of American Muslims to free exercise of religion.

Before, or after, it is successful?

[Cold Heat]

The enemy within is certainly reason to be aware and armed. The FBI can perhaps slow them down, but they will strike eventually.(when our guard is down)

I expect something within a year or two. We can stop them by watching them. Everywhere they go.........until they go.

[caddie]

Okay- muslim citizens and permanent residents can stay, after a thorough background check. Sorry, circumstances demand this.

Illegal aliens --I think we both agree: out.

All others here on visas stay until the visa is expired, then out.

But when it comes to new immigration from muslim countries -- I say no, unless there is a COMPELLING reason that the Moose Limb needs to come here.

Why so strict?

Because I think we've got too many here already.

The citizenship education program here in the states is nonexistent; the people in INS hate the country as much as most Moose Limbs.

They would let Real Aliens (War of the Worlds types) in by the busload. They don't care.

Also because the Moose Limb religion, (which they must follow or get their hand chopped off or their eyes gouged out,) says that they should all kill Whitey ASAP.

It's a scriptural passage that their dull-witted, head-bobbin' kids have to chant and memorize. It's a Moose Limb top ten commandment.

So I think that deportation is not all that crazy, lest America become a coast-to-coast Israel, with bombs going off in the nearby Chuck-E-Cheese or General Cinema every Saturday.

You can't foresee that, I can, and that's that.

This just in:

My wife says one of her nursing colleagues, who lives in Plainfield and commutes to work in Indianapolis,

Says she sees, down the street from her house, a whole houseful of adult male Arabs, living there, for some reason.

They come and go at all hours of the day and night.

Never smile, never say Hi, very strange affect, very secretive.

She wants to rat them out, because it is, of course, entirely suspicious behavior, in view of 9/11.

These guys are not the kind of "Muslim family" you may visualize in prototype: a sort of muslim Ward and June Cleaver, with Wally and the Beav, all beating rugs and saying the Pledge of Allegiance.

No, Diddle, this is reality. These are real, America-hating, plotting bastards, who are here to do Jihad, slow-motion, or fast-motion, until another 9/11 erupts.

You know why and nobody else pursues this any further?

Because SHE KNOWS that there is some loudmouth Diddle E. Squat who is going to call her a racist for piping up.

So do the cops. They don't want Diddle E. Squat calling them racist, and they don't want to get sued by lawyers from Squat Squat and Squat, LLC, for federal civil rights violations (after being called racist at a press conference called by the attorneys of SS&S).

And the same with the FBI, whose agents have just undergone racial sensitivity seminars put on by Diddle E. Squat Encounter Groups, Inc., teaching them that they are evil for so much as suspecting anything bad from these innocent, noble, persecuted, brown-skinned individuals.

So that's why this cancer is growing in our country.

It's because most people are as uncritical in their thinking as you are.

And as a result, American citizens are, for the most part, paralyzed and unable to deal with this very real threat.

Muslims now want to take over one or more of our states.

America is becoming another Yugoslavia, or Israel.

You really need to wake up, Diddle.

[Diddle E. Squat]

No we don't agree on many things, and once again your assumptions of me, what I believe, and how I would react are completely wrong. Why am I not surprised? Ignore reality, twist me into whatever villian or stooge would fit your fantasy world.

OBTW, I wouldn't think twice about reporting ANY suspicious activity. But since anyone who knows me would laugh at charges that I'm racist, such accusations don't scare me. But I could see how someone who goes around constantly spouting epithets might be sensitive to such a charge. How is using the term "Moose Limbs" for every other word any different than using the N word?

[caddie]

You're the one invoking "Anne Frank" in reference to my and other FReepers wanting to deport Moose Limbs. You are thereby calling me a Nazi! You also called me and others of like mind 'bloodthirsty' in a previous reference.

Where have I advocated bloodshed?

You call me a Nazi for having political beliefs that are nothing like that of the Nazis, then lecture me about civilized discourse?

Face it, it's a cheap smear that you feel you have to do because you are getting beaten badly in an argument.

Look, I am all for spirited discussion, but you are being way too much of a crybaby.

If you can dish it out, you should be able to take it, Diddle.

[Diddle E. Squat]

You advocate taking people here in the US from their homes and deporting them regardless of their actions and support for the US, simply because they are of a particular ethnicity or religion. The parallel to Ann Frank is apparent.

If you want to take that example further and classify those advocating such blanket removal as being Nazi's, well that is your choice. Extrapolating an example out far enough to where it becomes excessive is a debate technique, often invoked when one feels they are losing an argument. You did the extrapolation.

[smoking camels]

I do not toss it around lightly. I also did not directly accuse tou of being a traitor. I only said, if you are aware of the degree to which the Muslim community is sworn to America's destruction, then you are a traitor to your country.

Go read the definition of traitor. In principle I am absolutely correct in using this term for this situation. I understand the truth may be hard for you to take so just swallow harder OK?

[Diddle E. Squat]

The muslim community is not monolithic, and it is ludicrous to assume that all of them here in America are 'sworn to our destruction'. Jail and deport those that are, but distinguish between the two. If you fail to see any difference, then I am sorry that you choose simplistic ignorance. My position has now been clearly stated throughout this thread, you can misinterpret it as you will, but I won't waste anymore time on this gargage.

[smoking camels]

Let me explain my position to you. There are a lot of dangerous people in the Muslim community in America. That does not mean EVERY last one of them is a danger. I am sure there are many who are good citizens.

But, until I hear their leaders publically condemn these acts of terror (without the LOOPHOLES I have found in every condemnation), and as long as these individuals align themselves with these leaders then they are the ones who have chosen their lot. I have not chosen it for them.

Look, there were good people associated with the communist parties. So do you want to go on record as saying how wonderful communism is? Or how you can't paint all communists with the same brush? To me it is all the same.

When I condemn Muslims, I am condemning the community at large and their positions on America etc. It is an individual Muslim's choice to make it clear they do not subscribe to this position and thus exempt themselves from the condemnation they so richly deserve.

BTW, read their "condemnations" carefully. They ALWAYS leave a loophole. It sounds as if they are condemning the terror but to their followers they are NOT! It is a conditional condemnation. As in "it is bad for me to hurt you under these circumstances" (wink, wink... but we all know these are not the circumstances we are under so we all know it is actually OK) I know this is over-simplifying it but I did it so you could understand.

If you knew my background you would not discredit my insights so readily. But that must remain a secret for now. Sorry. (Nothing sinister... just germane to the discussion.)

One more question... how can you justify a people who are devoted to eliminating your way of life? A people who, if they were in charge as is their goal, would eliminate your freedoms you claim you support? How?

I really want to know. I believe in your right to believe what you want as long as there is no harm to me, my fellow man, and to the principles of freedom our country was founded upon. If your beliefs and actions threaten that you have placed yourself in a position as an enemy and must be dealt with accordingly. Comments?

[Diddle E. Squat]

Well I hear where you are coming from, and agree on many of your points. Especially on the silence of most of the leaders. But I still am quite aware of many who believe the Muslim faith, love America, and would never consider aiding in its destruction. And they aren't out trying to destroy my way of life(though certainly some extreme Muslims are). Do I wish they were more vocal? Of course, but many of the ones I know just aren't very political, especially not having been born here. But look around some time, notice that a sizable number of cars in immigrant communities have American flags? (Actually it seems some of the most adament and vocal apologists for ME terrorism are American-born women who became muslim converts, but again that's a broad generalization.) And there is the issue of backlash(especially considering how they may have witnessed more extreme forms of persecution of dissent back in the original countries) that factors into their quiet.

I'm a conservative Christian, yet I know that some CC's if empowered would take away many of our rights. That doesn't mean I support deporting them all as a threat, but rather keeping in check those leaders who would cause problems. I think really we differ on if a Muslim can be true to his religion and a patriotic American. I say yes, you seem to be leaning no. Will have to leave it at that for now, Time to get back to work. Take care.

[caddie]

Excuse me, but wasn't Anne Frank killed by the Nazis?

That's the part of the implication that is offensive.

And don't pretend that you didn't mean to intimate that I am a murdering Nazi.

BTW, you should know all about what to do when losing an argument, having just had your clock cleaned multiple times, by multiple persons, on this thread alone.

[chemainus]

Thank you for your didactic but incorrect paternalistic utterings...as I speak Hindustani, I do understand Sikhs...and the Indians (Patel) are not the only owners of the motels...the Paks and other Muslims are and have been major owners for the last twenty years thank you... and as my son just returned from six months in India, and my father spent six years on the Hoogley, perhaps they can inform me as well as you.

[muawiyah]

Maybe they can. On the other hand the Small Business Administration in the Department of Congress provides statistics that show that the largest number of hotel rooms in hotels owned by members of any specific religion are owned by Sikhs in the United States.

One might suppose the Mormons, in their manifestation as the Marriott family, are probably second.

I am not sure you would pick that kind of information up on the street in New Delhi, now would you?

[Diddle E. Squat]

You don't find attempts to remove Anne Frank and her family from their homes offensive just in itself?

Your righteous indignation is a performance reminiscent of Robert Byrd's. Enjoy reading whatever you want out of that statement, I'm sure you'll get 30+ insinuations that I never thought of.

Oh yeah, I'm really humbled and shamed by a guy who claims "Its just a flesh wound."

[Lion's Cub]

Thanks for flagging me on this. I'm originally from Indiana and I have a lot of family back there. My folks are currently living in Bristol up by the South Bend area. My Mom says they have a large Muslim community there.