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Sunset the Amok Federal Bureaucracy (support H.R. 2373)
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| 4/29/02
| Congressmen Kevin Brady(R) & Jim Turner(D)
Posted on 04/29/2002 11:05:47 AM PDT by RFP
Dear subscriber,
Here is today's ACTION ITEM:
ISSUE: In a recent report, CNSNews.com asked, "What can be done about a federal bureaucracy run amok? Set an expiration date for federal agencies and let Congress intervene if it wants them saved from extinction. That's the solution put forward by Republican Congressman Kevin Brady and Democratic Congressman Jim Turner." It's called "sunsetting."
Sunsetting establishes the process to evaluate the performance of federal agencies. The law proposed by Brady and Turner, the "Abolishment of Obsolete Agencies and Federal Sunset Act of 2001" (H.R. 2373), would also promote accountability and customer service within agencies that have not demonstrated either in the past.
H.R. 2373 would place an expiration date on every federal agency, department and program. This would require them to justify their existence to taxpayers and Congress, or face elimination. A similar law is used in 20 states including Texas, which has eliminated 23 agencies, saving Texas taxpayers $630 million.
Every agency, regardless of whether they were created 100 years ago or 20 years ago, must prove they deserve our precious tax dollars today. Under sunsetting, not only do you abolish federal agencies and streamline others, you force agencies to become more responsive to the taxpayers and the customers they serve.
This bill was introduced in 1998 and attracted an impressive 67 original co-sponsors, including then-House Budget Committee Chairman John Kasich and Dan Burton, who chairs the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee where the bill will be considered. The measure was also endorsed by the Citizens Against Government Waste.
The act creates a 12-member bi-partisan commission composed of eight members of Congress and four private citizens. The commission -- to be paid for by cutting a portion of the current federal budget -- will evaluate each agency and recommend to Congress if it should be abolished, streamlined, consolidated or reauthorized with recommendations for improvements.
The bill was re-introduced last June, and sent to the House Subcommittee on the Civil Service and Agency Organization -- where it's now stuck. This bill, should it become law, would do wonders to make the conservative dream to reduce the size of government a reality -- but it needs our action to get it out of committee and onto the House floor for a vote!
ACTION ITEM: This legislation would ensure that our federal agencies perform functions that bests serve the public need and justify every tax-dollar in their budget. Contact your Congressman TODAY and ask him or her to co-sponsor the "Abolishment of Obsolete Agencies and Federal Sunset Act of 2001" (H.R. 2373), and to request that it be sent out of committee for a vote immediately -- Click Below:
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NOTE: You can also call Rep. Dave Weldon (R-FL) at 202-225-3671 (he's the Chairman of the subcommittee where H.R. 2373 is now stuck), and ask him to speed the bill along to get it to the House floor for a vote. And be sure to forward this email to everyone you know that would like to see a practical solution implemented to help reduce the size and scope of our bloated federal bureaucracy. Thank you!
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:05:47 AM PDT
by
RFP
To: RFP
The Endangered Species Act ran out years ago, yet federal agencies are still using it to commit government abuse of landowners.
Will the Brady-Turner, "Abolishment of Obsolete Agencies and Federal Sunset Act of 2001 (H.R. 2373)" correct this?
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:22:02 AM PDT
by
RFP
To: RFP
This would require them to justify their existence to taxpayers and Congress, or face elimination. Not a good idea, especially with the LEO type agencies (which it seems all of them are now). The only way they could justify their continued existence, is to make sure some more Americans die, either from government terrorism or from non-government terrorism.
A better way might be to abolish them first, then let the voters and congress decide if and when such dangerous domestic troops are ever needed again.
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:29:34 AM PDT
by
meadsjn
To: RFP
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:29:42 AM PDT
by
summer
To: cake_crumb, ALL
"H.R. 2373 would place an expiration date on every federal agency, department and program. This would require them to justify their existence to taxpayers and Congress, or face elimination. A similar law is used in 20 states including Texas, which has eliminated 23 agencies, saving Texas taxpayers $630 million. "
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:30:55 AM PDT
by
RFP
To: RFP
Is it me, or does it seem like Hell might start to freeze-over?
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from
http://thomas.loc.gov (note no "www") :
HR 2373 IH
107th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 2373To provide for the periodic review of the efficiency and public need for Federal agencies, to establish a Commission for the purpose of reviewing the efficiency and public need of such agencies, and to provide for the abolishment of agencies for which a public need does not exist.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
June 28, 2001
Mr. BRADY of Texas (for himself, Mr. DOGGETT, Mr. SCARBOROUGH, Mr. TURNER, Mr. SESSIONS, Mr. SUNUNU, Mr. BASS, Mr. BARTON of Texas, Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas, Mr. GOODE, Mr. THORNBERRY, Ms. HART, Ms. GRANGER, Mr. CULBERSON, Mrs. NORTHUP, Mr. ENGLISH, Mr. HEFLEY, Mr. DOOLITTLE, Mrs. MYRICK, Mr. COMBEST, Mr. HOEKSTRA, Mr. TANCREDO, Mr. HUTCHINSON, Mr. GREEN of Wisconsin, Mr. RODRIGUEZ, Mr. ISTOOK, Mr. ROYCE, Mr. ISAKSON, Mr. COOKSEY, Mr. SCHAFFER, Mr. GOODLATTE, Mr. FLAKE, and Mr. TOOMEY) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Government Reform
A BILLTo provide for the periodic review of the efficiency and public need for Federal agencies, to establish a Commission for the purpose of reviewing the efficiency and public need of such agencies, and to provide for the abolishment of agencies for which a public need does not exist.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Abolishment of Obsolete Agencies and Federal Sunset Act of 2001'.
SEC. 2. REVIEW AND ABOLISHMENT OF FEDERAL AGENCIES.
(a) SCHEDULE FOR REVIEW- Not later than one year after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Federal Agency Sunset Commission established under section 3 (in this Act referred to as the `Commission') shall submit to Congress a schedule for review by the Commission, at least once every 12 years (or less, if determined appropriate by Congress), of the abolishment or reorganization of each agency.
(b) REVIEW OF AGENCIES PERFORMING RELATED FUNCTIONS- In determining the schedule for review of agencies under subsection (a), the Commission shall provide that agencies that perform similar or related functions be reviewed concurrently to promote efficiency and consolidation.
(c) ABOLISHMENT OF AGENCIES-
(1) IN GENERAL- Each agency shall--
(A) be reviewed according to the schedule created pursuant to this section; and
(B) be abolished not later than one year after the date that the Commission completes its review of the agency pursuant to such schedule, unless the agency is reauthorized by the Congress.
(2) EXTENSION- The deadline for abolishing an agency may be extended for an additional two years after the date described in paragraph (1)(B) if the Congress enacts legislation extending such deadline by a vote of a super majority of the House of Representatives and the Senate.
SEC. 3. ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMISSION.
(a) ESTABLISHMENT- There is established a commission to be known as the `Federal Agency Sunset Commission'.
(b) COMPOSITION- The Commission shall be composed of 12 members (in this Act referred to as the `members') who shall be appointed as follows:
(1) Six members shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, one of whom may include the Speaker of the House of Representatives, with minority members appointed with the consent of the minority leader of the House of Representatives.
(2) Six members shall be appointed by the majority leader of the Senate, one of whom may include the majority leader of the Senate, with minority members appointed with the consent of the minority leader of the Senate.
(c) QUALIFICATIONS OF MEMBERS-
(1) IN GENERAL- (A) Of the members appointed under subsection (b)(1), four shall be members of the House of Representatives (not more than two of whom may be of the same political party), and two shall be an individual described in subparagraph (C).
(B) Of the members appointed under subsection (b)(2), four shall be members of the Senate (not more than two of whom may be of the same political party) and two shall be an individual described in subparagraph (C).
(C) An individual under this subparagraph is an individual--
(i) who is not a member of Congress; and
(ii) with expertise in the operation and administration of Government programs.
(2) CONTINUATION OF MEMBERSHIP- If a member was appointed to the Commission as a Member of Congress and the member ceases to be a Member of Congress, that member shall cease to be a member of the Commission. The validity of any action of the Commission shall not be affected as a result of a member becoming ineligible to serve as a member for the reasons described in this paragraph.
(d) INITIAL APPOINTMENTS- All initial appointments to the Commission shall be made not later than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.
(e) CHAIRMAN; VICE CHAIRMAN-
(1) INITIAL CHAIRMAN- An individual shall be designated by the Speaker of the House of Representatives from among the members initially appointed under subsection (b)(1) to serve as chairman of the Commission for a period of 2 years.
(2) INITIAL VICE-CHAIRMAN- An individual shall be designated by the majority leader of the Senate from among the individuals initially appointed under subsection (b)(2) to serve as vice-chairman of the Commission for a period of two years.
(3) ALTERNATE APPOINTMENTS OF CHAIRMEN AND VICE-CHAIRMEN- Following the termination of the two-year period described in paragraphs (1) and (2), the Speaker and the majority leader shall alternate every two years in appointing the chairman and vice-chairman of the Commission.
(1) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS- Each member appointed to the Commission who is a member of Congress shall serve for a term of six years, except
that, of the members first appointed under paragraphs (1) and (2) of subsection (b), 2 members shall be appointed to serve a term of three years under each such paragraph.
(2) OTHER MEMBERS- Each member of the Commission who is not a member of Congress shall serve for a term of three years.
(3) TERM LIMIT- (A) A member of the Commission who is a member of Congress and who serves more than three years of a term may not be appointed to another term as a member.
(B) A member of the Commission who is not a member of Congress and who serves as a member of the Commission for more than 56 months may not be appointed to another term as a member.
(g) POWERS OF COMMISSION-
(1) HEARINGS AND SESSIONS- The Commission may, for the purpose of carrying out this Act, hold such hearings, sit and act at such times and places, take such testimony, and receive such evidence as the Commission considers appropriate. The Commission may administer oaths to witnesses appearing before it.
(2) OBTAINING INFORMATION- The Commission may secure directly from any department or agency of the United States information necessary to enable it to carry out its duties under this Act. Upon request of the Chairman, the head of that department or agency shall furnish that information to the Commission in a full and timely manner.
(3) SUBPOENA POWER- (A) The Commission may issue a subpoena to require the attendance and testimony of witnesses and the production of evidence relating to any matter under investigation by the Commission.
(B) If a person refuses to obey an order or subpoena of the Commission that is issued in connection with a Commission proceeding, the Commission may apply to the United States district court in the judicial district in which the proceeding is held for an order requiring the person to comply with the subpoena or order.
(4) IMMUNITY- The Commission is an agency of the United States for purposes of part V of title 18, United States Code (relating to immunity of witnesses).
(5) CONTRACT AUTHORITY- The Commission may contract with and compensate government and private agencies or persons for services without regard to section 3709 of the Revised Statutes (41 U.S.C. 5).
(h) COMMISSION PROCEDURES-
(1) MEETINGS- The Commission shall meet at the call of the Chairman.
(2) QUORUM- Seven members of the Commission shall constitute a quorum but a lesser number may hold hearings.
(1) COMPENSATION- Members shall not be paid by reason of their service as members.
(2) TRAVEL EXPENSES- Each member shall receive travel expenses, including per diem in lieu of subsistence, in accordance with sections 5702 and 5703 of title 5, United States Code.
(3) DIRECTOR- The Commission shall have a Director who shall be appointed by the Chairman. The Director shall be paid at a rate not to exceed the maximum rate of basic pay payable for GS-15 of the General Schedule.
(4) STAFF- The Director may appoint and fix the pay of additional personnel as the Director considers appropriate.
(5) APPLICABILITY OF CERTAIN CIVIL SERVICE LAWS- The Director and staff of the Commission shall be appointed subject to the provisions of title 5, United States Code, governing appointments in the competitive service, and shall be paid in accordance with the provisions of chapter 51 and subchapter III of chapter 53 of that title relating to classification and General Schedule pay rates.
(j) OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS-
(1) POSTAL AND PRINTING SERVICES- The Commission may use the United States mails and obtain printing and binding services in the same manner and under the same conditions as other departments and agencies of the United States.
(2) ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT SERVICES- Upon the request of the Commission, the Administrator of General Services shall provide to the Commission, on a reimbursable basis, the administrative support services necessary for the Commission to carry out its duties under this Act.
(3) EXPERTS AND CONSULTANTS- The Commission may procure temporary and intermittent services under section 3109(b) of title 5, United States Code.
(k) SUNSET OF COMMISSION- The Commission shall terminate on December 31, 2026, unless reauthorized by Congress.
SEC. 4. REVIEW OF EFFICIENCY AND NEED FOR FEDERAL AGENCIES.
(a) IN GENERAL- The Commission shall review the efficiency and public need for each agency in accordance with the criteria described in section 5.
(b) RECOMMENDATIONS; REPORT TO CONGRESS- The Commission shall submit to Congress and the President not later than September 1 of each year a report containing--
(1) an analysis of the efficiency of operation and public need for each agency to be reviewed in the year in which the report is submitted pursuant to the schedule submitted to Congress under section 2;
(2) recommendations on whether each such agency should be abolished or reorganized;
(3) recommendations on whether the functions of any other agencies should be consolidated, transferred, or reorganized in an agency to be reviewed in the year in which the report is submitted pursuant to the schedule submitted to Congress under section 2; and
(4) recommendations for administrative and legislative action with respect to each such agency.
(c) DRAFT LEGISLATION- The Commission shall submit to Congress and the President not later than September 1 of each year a draft of legislation to carry out the recommendations of the Commission under subsection (b).
(d) INFORMATION GATHERING- The Commission shall--
(1) conduct public hearings on the abolishment of each agency reviewed under subsection (b);
(2) provide an opportunity for public comment on the abolishment of each such agency;
(3) require the agency to provide information to the Commission as appropriate; and
(4) consult with the General Accounting Office, the Office of Management and Budget, the Comptroller General, and the chairman and ranking minority members of the committees of Congress with oversight responsibility for the agency being reviewed regarding the operation of the agency.
(e) USE OF PROGRAM INVENTORY- The Commission shall use the program inventory prepared under section 9 in reviewing the efficiency and public need for each agency under subsection (a).
SEC. 5. CRITERIA FOR REVIEW.
The Commission shall evaluate the efficiency and public need for each agency pursuant to section 4(a) using the following criteria:
(1) The effectiveness, and the efficiency of the operation of, the programs carried out by each such agency.
(2) Whether the programs carried out by the agency are cost-effective.
(3) Whether the agency has acted outside the scope of its original authority, and whether the original objectives of the agency have been achieved.
(4) Whether less restrictive or alternative methods exist to carry out the functions of the agency.
(5) The extent to which the jurisdiction of, and the programs administered by, the agency duplicate or conflict with the jurisdiction and programs of other agencies.
(6) The potential benefits of consolidating programs administered by the agency with similar or duplicative programs of other agencies, and the potential for consolidating such programs.
(7) The number and types of beneficiaries or persons served by programs carried out by the agency.
(8) The extent to which any trends, developments, and emerging conditions that are likely to affect the future nature and extent of the problems or needs that the programs carried out by the agency are intended to address.
(9) The extent to which the agency has complied with the provisions contained in the Government Performance and Results Act of 1993 (Public Law 103-62; 107 Stat. 285).
(10) The promptness and effectiveness with which the agency seeks public input and input from State and local governments on the efficiency and effectiveness of the performance of the functions of the agency.
(11) Whether the agency has worked to enact changes in the law that are intended to benefit the public as a whole rather than the specific business, institution, or individuals that the agency regulates.
(12) The extent to which the agency has encouraged participation by the public as a whole in making its rules and decisions rather than encouraging participation solely by those it regulates.
(13) The extent to which the public participation in rulemaking and decisionmaking of the agency has resulted in rules and decisions compatible with the objectives of the agency.
(14) The extent to which the agency complies with section 552 of title 5, United States Code (commonly known as the `Freedom of Information Act').
(15) The extent to which the agency complies with equal employment opportunity requirements regarding equal employment opportunity.
(16) The extent of the regulatory, privacy, and paperwork impacts of the programs carried out by the agency.
(17) The extent to which the agency has coordinated with State and local governments in performing the functions of the agency.
(18) The potential effects of abolishing the agency on State and local governments.
(19) The extent to which changes are necessary in the authorizing statutes of the agency in order that the functions of the agency can be performed in the most efficient and effective manner.
SEC. 6. COMMISSION OVERSIGHT.
(a) MONITORING OF IMPLEMENTATION OF RECOMMENDATIONS- The Commission shall monitor implementation of laws enacting provisions that incorporate recommendations of the Commission with respect to abolishment or reorganization of agencies.
(b) MONITORING OF OTHER RELEVANT LEGISLATION-
(1) IN GENERAL- The Commission shall review and report to Congress on all legislation introduced in either house of Congress that would establish--
(B) a new program to be carried out by an existing agency.
(2) REPORT TO CONGRESS- The Commission shall include in each report submitted to Congress under paragraph (1) an analysis of whether--
(A) the functions of the proposed agency or program could be carried out by one or more existing agencies;
(B) the functions of the proposed agency or program could be carried out in a less restrictive manner than the manner proposed in the legislation; and
(C) the legislation provides for public input regarding the performance of functions by the proposed agency or program.
SEC. 7. RULEMAKING AUTHORITY.
The Commission may promulgate such rules as necessary to carry out this Act.
SEC. 8. RELOCATION OF FEDERAL EMPLOYEES.
If the position of an employee of an agency is eliminated as a result of the abolishment of an agency in accordance with this Act, there shall be a reasonable effort to relocate such employee to a position within another agency.
SEC. 9. PROGRAM INVENTORY.
(a) PREPARATION- The Comptroller General and the Director of the Congressional Budget Office, in cooperation with the Director of the Congressional Research Service, shall prepare an inventory of Federal programs (in this Act referred to as the `program inventory') within each agency.
(b) PURPOSE- The purpose of the program inventory is to advise and assist the Congress and the Commission in carrying out the requirements of this Act. Such inventory shall not in any way bind the committees of the Senate or the House of Representatives with respect to their responsibilities under this Act and shall not infringe on the legislative and oversight responsibilities of such committees. The Comptroller General shall compile and maintain the inventory and the Director of the Congressional Budget Office shall provide budgetary information for inclusion in the inventory.
(c) INVENTORY CONTENT- The program inventory shall set forth for each program each of the following matters:
(1) The specific provision or provisions of law authorizing the program.
(2) The committees of the Senate and the House of Representatives which have legislative or oversight jurisdiction over the program.
(3) A brief statement of the purpose or purposes to be achieved by the program.
(4) The committees which have jurisdiction over legislation providing new budget authority for the program, including the appropriate subcommittees of the Committees on Appropriations of the Senate and the House of Representatives.
(5) The agency and, if applicable, the subdivision thereof responsible for administering the program.
(6) The grants-in-aid, if any, provided by such program to State and local governments.
(7) The next reauthorization date for the program.
(8) A unique identification number which links the program and functional category structure.
(9) The year in which the program was originally established and, where applicable, the year in which the program expires.
(10) Where applicable, the year in which new budget authority for the program was last authorized and the year in which current authorizations of new budget authority expire.
(d) BUDGET AUTHORITY- The report also shall set forth for each program whether the new budget authority provided for such programs is--
(1) authorized for a definite period of time;
(2) authorized in a specific dollar amount but without limit of time;
(3) authorized without limit of time or dollar amounts;
(4) not specifically authorized; or
(5) permanently provided,
as determined by the Director of the Congressional Budget Office.
(e) CBO INFORMATION- For each program or group of programs, the program inventory also shall include information prepared by the Director of the Congressional Budget Office indicating each of the following matters:
(1) The amounts of new budget authority authorized and provided for the program for each of the preceding four fiscal years and, where applicable, the four succeeding fiscal years.
(2) The functional and subfunctional category in which the program is presently classified and was classified under the fiscal year 2001 budget.
(3) The identification code and title of the appropriation account in which budget authority is provided for the program.
(f) MUTUAL EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION- The General Accounting Office, the Congressional Research Service, and the Congressional Budget Office shall permit the mutual exchange of available information in their possession which would aid in the compilation of the program inventory.
(g) ASSISTANCE BY EXECUTIVE BRANCH- The Office of Management and Budget, and the Executive agencies and the subdivisions thereof shall, to the extent necessary and possible, provide the General Accounting Office with assistance requested by the Comptroller General in the compilation of the program inventory.
SEC. 10. DEFINITION OF AGENCY.
As used in this Act, the term `agency' has the meaning given that term by section 105 of title 5, United States Code, except that such term includes an advisory committee as that term is defined in section 3(2) of the Federal Advisory Committee Act.
SEC. 11. OFFSET OF AMOUNTS APPROPRIATED.
Amounts appropriated to carry out this Act shall be offset by a reduction in amounts appropriated to carry out programs of other Federal agencies.
END
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:36:09 AM PDT
by
RFP
To: RFP
Can we start with the department of education?
I think the bill should also include some provision automatically reducing income taxes by the amount saved, so that we don't end up with fewer agencies, but owing just as much in taxes.
To: RFP; all
This is a great step in the right direction, and I would add one more thing to it.
First we have to defeat every Rat up for re election in Bush states this November. Then in 2003, Da$$hole can be aborted from his little Napoleon role.
No bill of value like this bill will ever even be voted on as long as Da$$hole controls the senate. He has to be aborted this November by defeating his rat buddies up for re election in Bush States. Then in 2003, he becomes just a petty vile mouth midget in the senate with zero power.
Besides this bill, we need a bill that requires every civil service employee from GS 7 up, to submit a letter of resignation to the new president. These letters are valid for as long as that president is our president. This will allow the president to immediately clean house in the federal departments staffed with life long/card carrying rats.
These life long civil service rats cause continuous problems for republican presidents from the day they are sworn in until their term expires. The ability to activate the resignation letters of about 100,000 rats the day a president is sworn in would reduce the sabotage these leftist do to our country. It would send a loud and clear message to the surviving rats to shape up, or they will be cleared out with the first trash.
The bill would have to have a special rider to have all civil service employees GS7 or higher to submit their resignations to President Bush as soon as he signed the bill. Then, he could clear the decks of socialists, communists, pink panty wearing Political Correctness lifers and others who hate America.
We need to defeat every rat running for the senate or re election in Bush States. That will allow the flushing of these rats and their midget Da$$hole will be midget minority fairy/elf!
Then, we can see reform in government, lower taxes, drilling in Alaska and many other good things for America!
Defeat the rats running for the senate in Bush States~!
To: Still Thinking
I want to serve on the oversight committee as an employer of the fluff in D.C. My first act will be to limit terms of Senators and Congressmen!!!! Second, would be to retire Sen. Byrd -- that alone will save us millions/billions!!
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posted on
04/29/2002 11:57:25 AM PDT
by
Elkiejg
To: YourAdHere
PING
To: RFP
SURE WOULD BE BETTER THAN NOT HAVING IT. THANKS.
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posted on
04/29/2002 12:06:41 PM PDT
by
Quix
To: RFP
Question for any one, is this only for agencies or for Deparments as well?
If both, great, fantastic, grand.
If the former, it's a start.
To: RFP
Congress will not sunset the amok federal bureaucracy-- they are part of it.
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posted on
04/29/2002 12:21:40 PM PDT
by
backhoe
To: RFP
WOW...this bill is the best idea since sliced bread! It makes sense! It's time has MORE than come! It could potentially save the US taxpayer hundreds of millions of dollars!
The pork barrel members of Congress will never let it pass.
To: RFP
Thanks for the flag.
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posted on
04/29/2002 12:38:44 PM PDT
by
lakey
To: cake_crumb
I agree, Satan's gonna have to get a sleigh to ride around in !
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posted on
04/29/2002 12:39:18 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
To: Grampa Dave
"No bill of value like this bill will ever even be voted on as long as Da$$hole controls the senate"I was thinking the same thing. However, when reading the bill I noticed that 6 members of the Committee shall be members of the Senate, to be appointed by the Senate Majority Leader, who may appoint himself a member of the committee as well.
Same with the 6 commission members from the House of Reps, to be appointed by the Speaker, who may appoint himself a member as well.
Nice bone there.
Doubt it'll be enough to get a bill as intelligent as this one passed.
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