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1 posted on 03/22/2002 6:09:57 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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>"The kids that are coming out of these public high schools don't know what honor is," he said.
2 posted on 03/22/2002 6:12:46 PM PST by Dialup Llama
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**"The kids that are coming out of these public high schools don't know what honor is," he said. "They have quite an adjustment to make when they come to an academy that has such high standards of integrity and ethics."**

Shameless homeschool bump. :o)

3 posted on 03/22/2002 6:14:21 PM PST by homeschool mama
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Sad article. You always find the best news. Would you please put me on your ping list? :)
4 posted on 03/22/2002 6:18:25 PM PST by SpookBrat
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"The kids that are coming out of these public high schools don't know what honor is," he said ...

After eight years of the Clinton's where honor and integrity didn't exist, it's not hard to see why the latest generation of cadets are coming up way short of these virtues.

5 posted on 03/22/2002 6:18:46 PM PST by BluH2o
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"We rely on the American people to send us their very best."

What a scumbag, mealy-mouthed, pathetic attempt at spinning away responsibility. It is up to the Academy to make the selections ... if the process is busted, they need to fix it (and fix the blame on themselves).

9 posted on 03/22/2002 6:24:41 PM PST by AngrySpud
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Of the 38 cadets implicated, eight were court-martialed and seven of those went to prison; one of them got 3 1/2 years at Leavenworth. Twenty-one others have left the academy; some of those are being forced to repay the government for their tuition, while others must serve in the Air Force in the enlisted ranks and not as officers.

I'd like to think that the ones who are getting enlisted service instead of prison are truly guilty of lesser infractions and not just better connected, but.....

The implication that this leaves is that there is less honor required of enlisted personnel and that is not the case.

"We have to do things right or people die. When I come out of Baghdad and I am out of the fuel, I am trusting that tanker pilot will be there," Hyatt said. "Because of what happened, we are not going to look the other way."

He is also trusting that the E-5 who worked on his F-15 also has a full tool chest and didn't leave something in the engine.

Regards,

TS

11 posted on 03/22/2002 6:28:45 PM PST by The Shrew
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C'mon. Who's kidding who here? After reviewing/investigating the applicants' entire pre-academy school and personal history they have NO clue what the entrants are like? I can see a few slipping by the screening and evaluation process, but this many?

May I delicately ask if admissions have been relaxed or standards dumbed down? Are quotas or preferences now holding sway? Is political influence being exerted behind the scenes in some instances to get well-connected but unstable youths appointed?

I will say that the punishments meted out are tough enough. But how much taxpayers money was invested on these perps before they were caught?

Something ain't right here.

Leni

13 posted on 03/22/2002 6:31:08 PM PST by MinuteGal
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This is pretty sad. The Air Force Academy needs to reign in their druggies (I've been reading about drug scandals at the AFA for 2 years solid now) just like the Catholics and Mormons need to reign in their child molesters. Screw compassion, it's time to kick them in the ass hard!
18 posted on 03/22/2002 7:22:18 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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bttt
19 posted on 03/22/2002 7:37:50 PM PST by Travis McGee
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Guess some of them want to fly the easy way. Not good.
22 posted on 03/22/2002 8:32:07 PM PST by dr_who
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Clean it up now. My Civil Air Patrol Cadet is targeting the Academy, and I kinda expect them to be flyin' right.
24 posted on 03/22/2002 9:29:07 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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"We rely on the American people to send us their best. Every now and then we don't get the right people,"

Well, now isn't that convenient? True, Our faithful Congressional members, the same the ones who upheld the Constitution so well they gave Clinton a pass on perjury, rape, obstruction of justice, etc., also make the Academy appointments. On the other hand, the USAF has significant input in admissions (ever hear of a background check?).

This USAF Officer ought to be cashiered immediately. He can't push back blame for dirty USAF Cadet's upon the American people. The USAF is responsible for the standards it sets, the standards it enforces, and the failure to instill those standards in their cadets. One or two misfits are an aberration, and can be weeded out as plebes. THIRTY-EIGHT misfits are a long term, institutional failure!

SFS,

CDR, SC, USNR (Retired)

34 posted on 03/23/2002 2:32:55 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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"The kids that are coming out of these public high schools don't know what honor is," he said. "They have quite an adjustment to make when they come to an academy that has such high standards of integrity and ethics."

Incredible! Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

I hope they get these problems under control. I've got two sons and the eldest is already wanting to be a Marine! How is the military responding to the homeschooling community?

44 posted on 03/23/2002 4:56:21 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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Ah, the wretched masses yearning to toke free.


47 posted on 03/23/2002 5:23:14 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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All are products of the Clinton era.
48 posted on 03/23/2002 6:51:08 AM PST by X-USAF
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""The kids that are coming out of these public high schools don't know what honor is," he said. "They have quite an adjustment to make when they come to an academy that has such high standards of integrity and ethics.""

Yeah, tell us about it. These kids have been ruined, and expecting to make a silk purse out of a pig's ear is very hard.

54 posted on 03/23/2002 3:19:48 PM PST by Don Myers
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