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Campaign finance flimflam
The Chicago Tribune ^ | 3/22/2002 | Chicago Tribune Editorial Board

Posted on 03/22/2002 6:35:58 AM PST by RedWing9

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:09 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The U.S. Senate has sent a campaign-finance reform bill to President Bush. The president has promised to sign it, even though he acknowledges that it is "flawed."

Flawed? You bet it is. So flawed that if the president followed his instincts, he would veto this legislation. This is incumbent-protection legislation that steps all over free-speech rights. That's how flawed it is.


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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cfr; constitution; elections; feingold; mccain
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A little too late...
1 posted on 03/22/2002 6:35:58 AM PST by RedWing9
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To: diotima;dittomom;TheRightGuy;BillyBoy;NotJustAnotherPrettyFace;usconservative...
Bump!!!
2 posted on 03/22/2002 6:38:47 AM PST by RedWing9
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To: JohnHuang2
FYI Re: your essay on the presstitutes' buyer's remorse...
3 posted on 03/22/2002 6:39:35 AM PST by eureka!
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To: RedWing9
Will the U.S. Supreme Court find that violates the 1st Amendment? That's a safer bet than putting $10 on spring to follow winter.

Let us pray.

4 posted on 03/22/2002 6:43:04 AM PST by Maceman
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To: RedWing9
This is first news media outlet which has written an editorial telling Bush to veto this abimination.
5 posted on 03/22/2002 6:45:33 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: RedWing9
I for one will be telling any and all groups who call looking for donations of any kind that I will only be donating to the cause of a legal challenge to this law. That includes the Republican party.
6 posted on 03/22/2002 6:45:49 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: RedWing9
One of the most interesting points made by Mitch McConnell is that over the past 5 years the NYTimes and WashPost have run editorials in favor of CFR on average of once every 5 1/2 days. He questions why the print media would favor legislation that would ban television and radio ads near an election but allow same in newspapers. Kinda makes you go, hummmmmmmm.

CRF is a "flimflam" that I believe the courts will reverse.

7 posted on 03/22/2002 6:52:43 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Maceman
Will the U.S. Supreme Court find that violates the 1st Amendment? That's a safer bet than putting $10 on spring to follow winter.
Let us pray.

I think Bush has made a fairly smooth move.
1) He knows the issue would never be settled by a veto.
2) It may be settled by a Supreme Court Decision.
3) The sponsors are going to look like complete fools after the Court's opinion is written.
4) As of Wed, it is Spring.
8 posted on 03/22/2002 7:00:30 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: RedWing9
There should be no restrictions on personal contributions to a candidate, but all money that is given to any candidate, should have immediate and full public disclosure. That's political freedom!

Doubling the personal limits from $1,000 to $2,000, is ridiculous. Considering inflation over the last thirty years, that amount should be about $3,500, at bare minimum.

The worse part of this campaign reform bill, is the unconstitutional nature of what's being called, the "issue ad ban". It will never get past the USSC.

9 posted on 03/22/2002 7:01:04 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: RedWing9
Truth bump!
10 posted on 03/22/2002 7:07:10 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: sasquatch
The sponsors are going to look like complete fools after the Court's opinion is written.

So is Bush, for signing it.

11 posted on 03/22/2002 7:21:51 AM PST by Maceman
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To: RedWing9
A little too late...

EXACTAMUNDO! Newspapers love this bill. It doesn't restrict spending on newspaper ads, so the money that would have gone to radio or TV will go to newspapers. How convenient!

Has this editorial page run any opinions about this "reform" before? Did they support John McCain in the Republican primary? Just wondering...

12 posted on 03/22/2002 7:58:48 AM PST by dittomom
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To: sasquatch
3) The sponsors are going to look like complete fools after the Court's opinion is written.

Some of us would say, they already do...


13 posted on 03/22/2002 8:01:32 AM PST by dittomom
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To: dittomom
Has this editorial page run any opinions about this "reform" before? Did they support John McCain in the Republican primary? Just wondering

I can't answer that question succinctly. I must admit that I do not have a photographic memory of every editorial that this newspaper has run (I have a subscription). But here is one previous editorial I found using google.com search.

14 posted on 03/22/2002 9:18:06 AM PST by RedWing9
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To: Oldeconomybuyer;dittomom
OEB...but allow same in newspapers.

DM...Newspapers love this bill. It doesn't restrict spending on newspaper ads, so the money that would have gone to radio or TV will go to newspapers.

That does make me go hmmmmmmm... I was making another assumption... Bad RW9, bad RW9...

15 posted on 03/22/2002 9:21:27 AM PST by RedWing9
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To: Maceman
The greatest hope (though maybe a longshot) is that the Supreme Court will overturn the WHOLE THING on the basis of unequal protection of the law: e.i. the law does not simply regulate how soft money must be raised and accounted for, etc, by any organization, but permits it to some entities and orgs and prohibits it to others.

Hopefully those challenging the law will package their case so that the Supreme Court has the opportunity, and is encouraged, to go the whole nine yards on this.

Bear in mind that many of those pushing CFR don't really care if the current bill fails in the sense of "unintended" consequences that only make things "worse". In fact many may even want it to fail in this sense, justifying another round of reform. Eventually (when they think they can get away with it) we will be told, "well, we tried merely reforming the current system, but that didn't work; clearly the only solution is full public funding of federal elections." When that happens it will be game over. America citizens will be expected to sit down and SHUT UP. Listen to the media like good little drones, and off to the ballot box, keeping your own opinions and criticisms to themselves. You have CNNABCNBCCBSWASHCOMPOSTNYSLIMES to "represent" your views, don't cha know?

16 posted on 03/22/2002 9:33:02 AM PST by Stultis
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To: Stultis
Campaign finance Reform??? What a joke they all know the supreme court will kill it. If these bums in congress really wanted finance reform they would vote for TERM LIMITS. They were fast enough to limit the Presidency to 2 terms but when it came to themselves they fainted in horror.2 terms for the Senate and 5 terms for a congessman. That is more than enough!
17 posted on 03/22/2002 9:45:32 AM PST by GeorgeHL
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To: Maceman
So is Bush, for signing it.

I contend that by signing it, he places it where it can be finally and hopefully permanently rejected.
(nice jab, though)
18 posted on 03/22/2002 9:45:52 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Maceman
The sponsors are going to look like complete fools after the Court's opinion is written.
So is Bush, for signing it.
Actually, this will be the "Bush Campaign Finance Reform/First Amendment Attack Law" as soon as he signs it. This is a big trap for Bush.

If the ban on advertising by third parties 60 days before the general election isn't tossed out by SCOTUS, then the NAACP, AARP, and every liberal "issue group" that wants to run "issue ads" against Bush will blame Bush for the ban.

If the ban on third party ads is tossed out by SCOTUS, then all "issue groups" will not only oppose Bush on their pet issue(s), but will also be advertising that Bush signed a law to try to outlaw their advertising and silence his opponents.

Bush needs to veto this. He will lose some of his core support over if he signs it, and his opponents will still oppose him and hold him accountable for trying to silence them.

19 posted on 03/22/2002 10:45:51 AM PST by cc2k
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To: GeorgeHL
Funny you should mention term limits.... I used to belong to & be active in:

US Term Limits
... US Term Limits 10 G St., NE — Suite 410 Washington, DC 20002 Toll Free
(800) 733-6440, Voice (202) 379-3000 Fax (202) 379-3010. .
Description: National activist organization which asks candidates for the US Congress to sign a pledge limiting...
Category: Society > Politics > Campaigns and Elections > Election Reform > Term Limits
www.termlimits.org/ - 21k - 21 Mar 2002 - Cached - Similar pages

and the recent foolishness in DC has rekindled my zeal again.

20 posted on 03/22/2002 11:41:19 AM PST by backhoe
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