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Campaign Finance Reform Discussion - Senate "Debating" now - C-SPAN2
C-SPAN 2 ^ | Wednesday, March 20, 2002 | dittomom

Posted on 03/20/2002 6:27:27 AM PST by dittomom

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To: dittomom
"He really enjoys finding new ways to tell the RNC to get lost."

Very good answer.

I said on another thread - this is their last kick in my face if the stupid Repubs who could stop this (oh, but they don't want to have to spend the night there, do they ......as tinpot tiny timmy threatens them with doing.

I love and respect President Bush and am very happy he is in there instead of the Goron.

But should he not veto this monstrosity - the poor Republicans are going to get that much poorer.

It will simply take the wind out of any intention to work hard to elect anybody except one or two conservatives here and there who might have a chance to be elected.

They cannot stop election fraud and they are now going to vote for the television networks to have the power to tell everyone about the candidates instead of issues groups being able to inform voters about stands on issues. And, by the way, the Dems never obey the laws - so this one won't stop them at all.

Lawlessness, insanity, and anarchy are ahead for this country because when Hillary is "elected" in 2004 - that insanity will be back - with a vengeance.

And these stupid Republicans are part and parcel in responsibility for this future.

Guess you can tell I am down right now re: the future of this country. Why not?

THE ONLY THING I CAN DO IS STOP TAKING THE FACE KICKS. That's what I am doing, stupid Republicans!

41 posted on 03/20/2002 6:54:11 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Wphile
ROTFL!
42 posted on 03/20/2002 6:54:26 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: RAT Patrol
LOL!!!! ;-) I can't get away with that...my husband is leaving tomorrow for TN to go to a race. I asked him if he'd like to leave early. Like say, TODAY. ;-)

Oh, listen to Widow Carnahan...telling us how GREAT our country is..arghhhhh.

43 posted on 03/20/2002 6:54:30 AM PST by DJ88
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
And, again, I REFUSE TO SEND ONE PENNY TO SUPPORT THEM. Take that REpubs.

That's exactly the remark and reason I sent back to the RNC donation request mailer. They had the nerve to ask me what they had done to displease me and why was I not supporting them.

Why do I need to PAY Republicans to act like liberal RATS.

Anyway, the following illustration from Neal Boortz is one of the best examples I've seen of why CFR is such a disaster to our rights.

....In case that doesn’t happen you need to know how to deal with some of the new rules.

I want to draw you an illustration here … so I’ll use a good local Atlanta controversy. It’s called the Northern Arc. The Northern Arc is a huge limited access highway that is being proposed North of Atlanta. It will carve an arc through North Georgia from Interstate 75 on the West to Interstate 85 on the East. The Northern Arc would be good for Atlanta because it would probably ease traffic congestion on urban interstates. It could well be bad for North Georgia because it would bring increased traffic and congestion --- and it would cut through some beautiful countryside. Many of the people who moved to North Georgia did so to escape the very congestion that the Northern Arc will bring to their communities.

So --- what does this all have to do with the campaign finance reform act? Glad you asked.

Let’s say that community activists in North Georgia are steadfastly opposed to the Arc. Let’s also say, for the sake of argument, that the editorial writers of Atlanta’s newspapers are just as steadfastly FOR the arc.

Now … we’ll bring the election into the picture. We’ll say you have an incumbent congressman in North Georgia who supports the arc and is ready to seek federal funds to make sure it gets built. This congressman has the full support of the Atlanta newspapers and they are planning on running a huge editorial next week to support his reelection.

The incumbent’s challenger is opposed to the Arc. If he gets elected he will block any federal spending on the project.

You and a group of your fellow citizens have organized against the Arc. You have collected some contributions from like-minded neighbors and you want to do something to support the challenger. You know that the Atlanta newspapers and television stations are expressing their strong support for the incumbent, so you decide to fight back with some publicity of your own. You go to the three largest television stations in North Georgia and tell them that your group wants to run some ads opposing the Arc and supporting your candidate for congress.

Now --- now is when you learn about the campaign finance reform act. These television stations tell you that federal law does not permit them to run your ads. The election is less than 60 days away, and you ad is considered to be an “issue” ad … and since it is paid for by someone other than the candidate it is illegal.

OK, fine! You’ll just give the money to the candidate and HE can run the ad! Sorry, no go there either. The ads are expensive. Way above the campaign contribution limits.

Sorry … you’re just out of luck. Those newspapers can just keep right on editorializing for the incumbent, while you sit there with your hands tied.

What do you think the purpose of this law was anyway?

44 posted on 03/20/2002 6:55:36 AM PST by evad
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To: diotima
Let me brag....my Senators are Brownback and Roberts. They should be excellent on this. (if not, I'll punch 'em too.)
45 posted on 03/20/2002 6:56:10 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Molly Pitcher
Hi ya, Molly. Glad you made it.
46 posted on 03/20/2002 6:56:45 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: evad
To stuff a gag in the mouths of us conservatives.
47 posted on 03/20/2002 6:56:54 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: DJ88
Babs Boxer speaking now. Appropriately dressed in yellow.
48 posted on 03/20/2002 6:57:26 AM PST by dittomom
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To: RAT Patrol
SWEET JESUS! Barbara Boxer is on! I need my barf bag.....
49 posted on 03/20/2002 6:57:45 AM PST by diotima
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To: dittomom;JohnHuang2;Chairman_De cember_19th_Society;dalebert;samtheman;harpo11;Paul C. Jesup...
dittomom, dragging Enron into this is just plain nonsense.

Thanks for the Thread!

50 posted on 03/20/2002 6:58:19 AM PST by Molly Pitcher
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To: dittomom
Still no sign of McCain.

He's probably giving a press conference. The thought of his ugly mug on TV crowing about what a victory this is for the American people is enough to make me ill!

Interesting the priorities the Senate has, isn't it? Energy...nah, Border Security...nah, Faith Based...nah; LET'S TALK ABOUT OURSELVES INSTEAD AND DO CFR! What a bunch of self-serving pythons!

HEY SENATORS, ya want some real campaign finance reform? How about TERM LIMITS!

51 posted on 03/20/2002 6:58:49 AM PST by Wphile
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To: dittomom
Ugggggggghhhhhh... my home state Rat Senator. Yellow is such an appropriate color for her to wear for this day. Especially in view of the topic she's addressing.
52 posted on 03/20/2002 6:58:51 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: dittomom
Essay Of The Week
53 posted on 03/20/2002 6:59:49 AM PST by RJayneJ
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To: dittomom
Barbara Boxhead (Socialist-CA) just PRAISED the provision banning political speech 60 days before an election.
54 posted on 03/20/2002 7:00:02 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: RAT Patrol
Boxer praising McCain and Feingold. Complaining about how much money it takes to run for office in such a big state like California. She loves the idea that there won't be any visious attacks in the last 60 days before an election.

Poor Babs, she just can't take the criticism...and its so unfair that it costs money to run for office.

55 posted on 03/20/2002 7:00:12 AM PST by dittomom
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
I sent the President a telegram via Western Union telling him that I am doing my job as a citizen, as he asked me to do, and I fully expect him to do his job as President and protect and defend the Constitution of the US as he promised to do when he took the oath of the Presidency in January of 2001 and veto this bill.

If he doesn't, I am going to be very disappointed.

56 posted on 03/20/2002 7:01:08 AM PST by DJ88
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To: dittomom
CALL
YOUR
SENATORS
NOW!!

57 posted on 03/20/2002 7:01:25 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: dittomom
She's absolutely thrilled with being able to crush any GOP opponent in a future election. No wonder she's singing the bill's praises!
58 posted on 03/20/2002 7:01:28 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: dittomom
Politicians legislating against criticism. Scary!
59 posted on 03/20/2002 7:01:34 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Hi, RD!
60 posted on 03/20/2002 7:02:30 AM PST by RAT Patrol
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