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Does Freedom of the Press Include "Islam Sucks"?
Cornell Daily Sun ^
| March 12, 2002
| JOSH PLOTNIK
Posted on 03/15/2002 3:02:56 AM PST by ml/nj
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I sent the CDS this letter the next day:
Your Josh Plotnick thinks it is "outlandish" to say "Islam Sucks." I say it is irresponsible not to say it. Islam is pure and simple a military organization that advocates subduing and/or killing infidels. In a country which doesn't tolerate a religion that advocates polygamy, surely we do not need to tolerate those who advocate killing Christians, Jews, and others. It doesn't just advocate killing, Islam practices it. Wander around the globe to Indonesia, the Sudan, India, Lebanon, Israel, and ... lower Manhattan; and open your eyes.
Read their own =Quran=. Read Ibn Warraq's =Why I am not a Muslim.= Read Bat Ye'or's =Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam= or her =The Dhimmi=.
Look at the way the Muslims treat women - their own women! Watch the Muslims pronounce death sentences on people who write books. Does anything else Mr. Plotnick thinks a religion issue "fatwas"?
Please! You folks may dwell in ivory towers up in Ithaca, but this is not Never land.
So far as I can tell my letter has not been published (yet?).
ML/NJ
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posted on
03/15/2002 3:02:56 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: ml/nj
Islam Sucks!
To: ml/nj
Christianity has been fair game for writers, authors and artists(?) for years, especially in this country. Much of it has been extremely offensive and most complaints from Christians have fallen on deaf ears, even when the blasphemy was supported by the Federal government. Why should this be any different? Is it PC to be selective to who we criticize and what words we use?
To: ml/nj
Islam Sucks!!!!!
To: ml/nj
Does Freedom of the Press Include "Islam Sucks"?
In a word, "yes." End of discussion.
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posted on
03/15/2002 3:13:13 AM PST
by
pt17
To: ml/nj
It's not Muslims that I dislike -- I just dislike their faith." While I agree that he has a right to say whatever he wants, this statement shows the basic stupidity of our college population. He makes no attempt to separate the person from the religion. It is as if he said, "It's not Catholics I dislike -- I just dislike their faith" or "It's not Jews I dislike -- I just think that their faith sucks." Obviously he doesn't realize that he is contradicting himself.
To: ml/nj
Christians Must Convert to Islam or Be Cursed Like the Jews
O you people of the book [Christians]! Believe in what we have now sent down, fulfilling that which is with you, before we destroy some of your leaders and turn them on their backs or curse them as we cursed the people of the Sabbath [Jews]. (From the "peaceful" Muslim Koran, 4:47)
"Believe in what we have now sent down...."(Firefighters killed at the World Trade Center)
Photographs do not capture the horror of it(Witnesses saw airline passengers raining from the sky "like confetti")
Six months later (March 11, 2002) Two banks of spotlights extend from Ground Zero to the heavens in memory of the thousands of innocent Americans massacred by Islamic butchers.
To: ml/nj
But Rall is a Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist, and I am saddened by the New York Times' decision to withdraw the cartoon, merely because the paper disagreed with its content or feared further backlash from readers -- backlash which could injure the paper's reputation...my support for freedom of the press, however, does not apply to Fisher, because he crossed the line between constructive criticism and disrespect.Here's the crux of this idiot's aurguement-it's ok for a pulitzer prize winner to offend, but not joe blow college newspaper writer.
Does freedom of the press include "islam sucks"? You're f!@#in' a right is does.
To: pt17
Islam sucks, Islam sucked, Islam will suck, Islam has sucked, Islam has been sucking, Islam will be sucking, Islam will have been sucking...In short, no matter what time or mood, Islam will always suck.
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Islam sucks worse than anything that has ever sucked before.
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posted on
03/15/2002 3:57:56 AM PST
by
Maceman
To: ml/nj
Islam Sucks!
Islam Sucks!
Islam Sucks!
...nuff said.
To: ml/nj
The ideologies of Islam and Nazism are very similar, if Islam can't be criticized in any way (maybe we're already living under Sharia law), then to be consistent Hitler's Nazi state cannot be criticized either. We are forced to accept Fascism ---which means we're already living under a Fascist state ourselves.
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posted on
03/15/2002 4:10:30 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: ml/nj
Ithaca is the City of Evil.
As noted on another thread, there is a prevalent mindset at Cornell and the rest of Ithaca wherein the left considers any criticism of leftist ideas (ie, cartoonist Rall's) to be censorship, while at the same time calling for the eradication of conservative, or politically incorrect, speech.
To: ml/nj
Does Freedom of the Press Include "Islam Sucks"? Yes, of course it does, just as it includes my right to ignore illiterate uninformed writers who chose to write about something they obviously know very little about.
It also includes my right to recognize from your comments that you are as uninformed as the person you comment about. You appear to have about the same mentality as the person who blames the gun for someone's harm, the pencil for misspelled words, and the religion for someone's actions. Someday you may discover the clues, God willing, that so far have eluded you.
To: ml/nj
I wish I had enough spare money to register the domain name Islamsucks.com, I would've sold it for a good profit.
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posted on
03/15/2002 4:14:42 AM PST
by
Brett66
To: ml/nj
My support for freedom of the press, however, does not apply to Fisher, because he crossed the line between constructive criticism and disrespect. Why shouldn't the press be free to disrespect?
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posted on
03/15/2002 4:20:45 AM PST
by
ez
To: pt17
I may not like what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. Go 1st ammendment!
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posted on
03/15/2002 4:27:14 AM PST
by
mcook4
To: MosesKnows
It also includes my right to recognize from your comments that you are as uninformed as the person you comment about. You appear to have about the same mentality as the person who blames the gun for someone's harm, the pencil for misspelled words, and the religion for someone's actions. Someday you may discover the clues, God willing, that so far have eluded you. Oh, Grate One.
Teach Me.
ML/NJ
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posted on
03/15/2002 4:46:24 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: ml/nj
But Rall is a Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist, and I am saddened by the New York Times' decision to withdraw the cartoon, merely because the paper disagreed with its content or feared further backlash from readers -- backlash which could injure the paper's reputation. My support for freedom of the press, however, does not apply to Fisher, because he crossed the line between constructive criticism and disrespect.
So Rall's patently offensive and disresprectful cartoon is really just constructive criticism? Why, because he has a Pulitzer Prize? Sheeeshh.
To: ml/nj
The author states:
"My support for freedom of the press, however, does not apply to Fisher, because he crossed the line between constructive criticism and disrespect."
Fortunately, I do not need the authors "support for freedom of the press," I've got the following support:
Missouri Constitution
Bill of Rights
Section 8
"Section 8. That no law shall be passed impairing the freedom of speech, no matter by what means communicated: that every person shall be free to say, write or publish, or otherwise communicate whatever he will on any subject,..."
U.S. Constitution
Amendment I
"Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;"
Rights are inalienable, absolute, and categorical.
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posted on
03/15/2002 4:50:07 AM PST
by
tahiti
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