Posted on 03/13/2002 11:19:34 PM PST by Timesink
As we've all noticed over the last couple of days, the President has made a few strategic decisions that have not gone over well with certain types. The disruptors, the fair-weather Republicans, the single-issue Buchananite nutbags, the capital-L Libertarians, the tinfoilers, the McCainiacs and the plain old Bush-haters; all of them have come out of the woodwork to shriek in multi-hundred-post threads about how horrible George W. Bush is, how they'll never vote for him and/or any Republican ever again, how he's just another {liberal/socialist/New World Order Daddy's Boy/insert insult here}, no different from if we'd just gone ahead and elected {insert name of individual complainer's favorite boogeyman here}, yadda yadda yadda.
Of course, this is complete crap. Ever since January 20, 2001, we've noted in at least a dozen threads per week how some action or decision by Bush was a clear conservative/Republican act that would never have happened if Gore or Nader were president, and using such threads to give the lie to just the sort of rants that such nuts have been repeating all over FR in the last couple of days. The problem is, we haven't been keeping track of these examples.
So that's what this thread is for. A place to note every decision - past, present and future - that President Bush makes that shows him to be precisely the leader we expected him to be when we elected him. If you remember one from the past, post a link to that thread. Whenever one happens in the future, link to this thread. Hopefully, after getting a good start, we can merge the results into a bump list or whatever sort of bump-list "topic" replacemant JohnRob is currently working on. And then we'll have a ton of ammunition at the ready the next time the naysayers try to hijack FR.
That you have to tell us that is indication of a serious problem.
Well you are the road to recovery since you admit you have a problem.
i've been here two more years than you, #%@%#@%$#@%$#. in case you're too dull to notice, allow me to point out that it is in fact you, and your republican party ilk, who is (are) hijacking fr.
By the way, MurryMom's been a member for 5 1/2 months longer than you, johnboy. So if that's your measuring stick, then who's the True Freeper?
i guess all of us "naysayers" are kind of suspending judgement unless and until you explain to us how importing 65 million democrat voters into this country benefits our sons and daughters.
still waiting.
still waiting.
is that silence i hear?
before then, i posted as "thomas payne." for, i dunno ... 5 1/2 months? and lurked for, i dunno, since it was a bbs? was it ever?
man, i've been sleeping, the size of government has been reduced, and i didn't notice; regulations are vanishing before my eyes, and i'm too drug addled to notice; sadam who? (oh, yes, wasn't he something or other of iraq before dick cheney was appointed supreme leadero, or other?); pickering can't even get a fair hearing, but bork is on scotus? (give me a break); oh, and, i guess i must have misinterpreted this last election .. i thought that the dems controlled the senate; but now, thanks to you, i learn that the senate is safely in the hands of republicans, who will steadfastly resist the invasion of foriegns.
ugh.
I live in a fantasy world?!?
But on the negative side, we have:
1. We have just survived the most criminal administration in history. Not one prosecution! Algore would have moved on, too.
2. Democrats came within a hair of stealing this last election. Not one prosecution! Because of his failure to prosecute, the despicable RATS will be emboldened. GWB will be the last Republican president in my lifetime. The era of legitimate elections is over; welcome to elections soviet style!
3. The farm bill. A complete disaster by any measure. Hard to picture Algore doing worse.
4. The education bill. Ditto.
5. The steel tariff. Ready to pay a lot more for everything? Would Algore have done anything different?
6. Amnesty for illegals. This worked sooo well last time. Here in CA, we are over run with illegals. The ultimate goal of these illegals is not to become Americans, but to create an "Hispanic homeland" .... (their words, not mine). Could Algore have done more damage than GWB in this regard?
I cold go on, but I hope you get the point. Outside of the war, GWB has behaved just like a RINO. Or maybe that is what the Republican party is these days, just Democrats light. Minus the overwhelming corruption, but no longer holding conservative principles dear.
Environmemtal scientists are commiting fraud at the interior dept. and GW has refused to prosecute them
He has increased federal spending 260 billion dollars in 2 years.
He wants to expand Americorp a hated program of conservatives and has tacked on his own freedom core.
He socialized airport security workers
He signed the terrorist bill that would have allowed the government to seize the assets of those tennessee tax protestors last year.
And don't forget he is about to sign that CFR bill.
What a great president. Gore may have been worse but I have a hard time believing it would have been more than marginally worse. I by the way am a capital L libertarian who did give GW the benefit of the doubt initially because of the couple good things he did do early on.
Come now. See, this is what just drives people away from any serious dialogue. First, you get a diatribe from the original post which basically says ANYONE...ANYONE that disagrees with Bush is a nutcase. That's the first fallacy.
Then we get this list of basic untruths:
Come on guys! I voted for Bush, I'm thankful he's the Commander-in-Chief for THIS Air Force officer, but I'm not under any kind of illusion that this is some kind of hardcore "conservative revolution" happening in the White House. GW seems to me to be a kind man, a sincere man, and most likable, but that doesn't stop me from grieving over what I see are missteps in the direction of his Administration.
This kind of post just assumes lockstop, mindless allegiance...OR ELSE! Someone from FR will come and take my military ID away? My "true conservative" secret decoder ring will be confiscated? Have we come to the time when people are now all thrown out as Mcainiacs, nutcases and Buchananites who feel for good reason that while Bush is (primarily in terms of character) so much more qualified than Clinton, he is not nearly as principled as he could and should be??
Look, I still voted for Bush and I will gladly do so again as long as the choices remain status quo. I made my vote count in the right direction. Why am I now public enemy #1 because I DARE to ask, "what gives?" when I see Bush (pre 9/11) so gung ho on Mexico?
Of COURSE he has to be a political animal. Thinking people realize that, but you can't boil EVERYTHING he does that looks like he's going left but swearing he's going right as "strategery". You can't create a straw man of conservative critics of Bush as "one issue" disgruntled postal workers. I have MANY fellow military colleagues that feel the way I do. We are glad to have Bush as Commander and glad to have the support of the military in general, but not as happy with many other things. Like we are trained to do, we shrug our shoulders, sigh a hearty "Oh Well!", realize it could be much worse, and hope for a better day. Were we supposed to be in straightjackets instead of BDUs for being such "nutcases"?
Sure, the tax cut could have been larger...but that it IS at all is an extraordinary accomplishment.
Should the education policy include vouchers? Yes. And, with a Republican congress this can be added to the new performance measurements now part of the education system.
Is Bush providing blanket amnesty for illegals? NO.
Will Bush sign CFR? Probably. But, we just don't know yet.
But, what about the Kyoto Treaty? I remember the president being beaten about the head and neck not only here, but throughout the world. He threw this piece of trash in the garbage to protect the American economy. Let's give him some credit.
The president is also returning the value and sanctity of life to the American conscience. We're no longer paying for abortions throughout the world, the pre-born child now has rights to medical care, life cannot be created for research, and (again, with a Republican senate) this president will sign a bill banning partial birth abortion.
And, this nonsense about "not prosecuting the Clintons" is just that...nonsense. Like it or not, the plebs get one "shot" at taking out the "king". We had our chance. The House had the guts to impeach Clinton, the Senate had the guts to let him off without even pretending to hold a trial.
Yes, Clinton is a felon. Yes, Clinton is a fraud. Yes, Clinton is the worst man who ever was or will be president. Yes, he got away with it. Let it go.
And, let's not forget that while Bush is the leader, he must operate in a political environment that all too often resembles a swamp. If you really want to see what he's made of...get out there and work to give Bush a Republican congress.
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