Posted on 03/11/2002 12:20:49 PM PST by Quester
Is a baby (fetus) truly an intuder in the womb or is he/she an invited guest?
Hasn't the host acted to send out an invitation?
Would not it be the height of irresponsibility (or worse) for a host to send out invitations, but to hope that nobody shows up ... or even worse, to determine to evict any who respond to the invitation and show up, knowing that such an eviction means certain death for your guest(s)?
Place yourself as a non-Jew in Nazi occupied Europe. You know that the Jews are being hounded and herded by the Nazis, ultimately, to the death. You hear, through the grapevine, that some, in your community, have determined to discretely put the word out on the streets that their homes are available for use as sanctuaries to hide Jews from the Nazis. Those that have done this are quietly being considered 'heroes' in your community. You determine that you would like to be held in such high honor as these, and so, you let it be known that you are willing to take in Jews, as well. But, secretly, you have absolutely no intention of hiding any Jews ... after all, in reality, it would put you in danger and, infringe upon your societal freedoms (after all, Jews in hiding will have needs that only you will have the ability to meet). You hope that no one takes you up on your offer. But, your backup plan is that, if anyone does accept your invitation, you will, at your earliest convenience, discretely contact the Nazis and turn your 'guest(s)' over to them to be taken away to death. Once freed from your emcumbrance, you will put your 'invitation' (to death) back out on the street again.
Is this not immoral behaviour?
Bump
Excellent analogy . . . but it implies responsibility for your own behavior. Since humans are part of the animal kingdom and animals respond to stimuli through no choice of their own, they cannot be held responsible for their actions. Its society's fault! </sarcasm>
Abortion is murder.
Women who indulge in it are weak and pitiful, and are also telling themselves a lie about it all, since the baby's DNA is not the same as their own and therefore it isn't "my body" after all they are messing with. The act is murderous, plain and simple unless you are too frightened to see the truth.
It's up to the "guest" as to whether or not he or she accepts the "invitation". I suppose if you are desperate enough, you would come to a mother immoral enough to murder you after the party. "Buyer beware"!
How's this for a comment?
In the latter case (which comprises a very tiny percentage of America's legal prenatal infanticides) the child is neither an intruder nor a guest. It's as if some intruder invaded your apartment and left a helpless person bound and gagged in your bedroom.
You might be tempted to toss the helpless person out the tenth-story window of the apartment, ejecting them from your property. Of course, that would be an evil act, and would compound the misery by adding an act of wilful murder on top of a brutal assault.
Is this a pointless question or what?
I am also pro-choice: I think if a woman doesn't want her baby she should be allowed to CHOOSE to put it up for adoption
But he fetus is an invited guest and therefore deserves to be treated accordingly.
murder for convenience sake is still murder.
I am also pro-choice: I think if a woman doesn't want her baby she should be allowed to CHOOSE to put it up for adoption
But the fetus is an invited guest and should be treated accordingly.
Because murder for convenience sake is still murder.
The primary questions of ethics center on the rightness or wrongness of the acts of conscious entities. Since the unborn child untakes no act other than existence, its hard to argue as to the rightness or wrongness of acts that do not take place. It is dangerous ground to undertake the question of whether or not one's mere existence is a question for debate as to rightness or wrongness. Those who take such a task upon themselves are literally playing with a live hand grenade, in an ethical sense.
Did you read the article first or not?
Dan
How is the case for the typhoid bacilli any different from the case for the fetus?
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